Frage von ironvillage:
know someone new picture profiles EX-1
ravens and bloom are so great but maybe there was a great place?
Thanks for the replies.
Antwort von wontuwontu:
geiles create something new? Gorgeous;)
Antwort von domain:
Completely unrecognized reality. When recording, it can only be about the most unimpressive and broadband signal with min. 10-12 bits and largest contrast range aufzuzeichen (nonlinear gamma curves with knee).
Antwort von KrischanDO:
Completely unrecognized reality. When recording, it can only be about the most unimpressive and broadband signal with min. 10-12 bits and largest contrast range aufzuzeichen (nonlinear gamma curves with knee). The approach I can understand. Would you have a tip for me as an EX-1 Beginners, as I have the EX-1 s.besten can teach?
So far I have things running with factory settings.
Thanks and greetings
Christian
Antwort von frm:
there are any left with recommended settings for the picture profiles? has someone of you
Antwort von Jogi:
How about because times with "own try"?
Antwort von maniero:
"own try" is probably just as "out" as "self search" or "myself ..."
Antwort von ironvillage:
thus
I am of the opinion that profiles of:
Bill Ravens
Philip Bloom and very professional and well
are and they are with installation instructions for beginners very well explained.
but I think Cam has much more control and there would
it may be that someone a super geiles profile or discovered
has developed. And if not then yes synonymous solls good.
When you try to build myself mostly crap. GR + BG etc are so confusing that they prefer their fingers because of it.
EX.Fantasten your luck!
PS: but it is a great thing! An otherwise I wish all readers a
successful and tüfteliges weekend and greeting neighbors s.Eure Lieben
and the Hasso and the Hannelore Familie.Tante Karla goes along with it the circumstances so far as well!
Antwort von frm:
because thou hast left of the two (Bill Ravens
and Philip Bloom)
where they show the profiles?
Antwort von Ernesto:
Look at: http://www.videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=3812&threadview=0&hilight=&hilightuser=0&page=71
and here: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/
many greetings Ernesto
Antwort von ironvillage:
1. www.philipbloom.co.uk/
2. http://web.mac.com/philip.bloom/Blooms_Blog/Blooms_Blog/Entries/2008/2/17_ex1_Picture_profile_settings_i_use.html
both of these addresses could help frm
Antwort von Jogi:
The EX1 has some very interesting gamma curves installed. So these times durchtesten and then adjust their own taste. Experimenting with gamma, black, knee, etc. The colors are neutral. That I would not make. Unless there is specific scenarios and produces color will be achieved. This can be in a better PostPro done. Only the color for the Farbpegel increase. This is the factory setting somewhat listless. The above settings (link) are not really my idea.
Antwort von frm:
Thank you, you must play me something because I have been half a year with standard films and everything in the post-production change (synonymous is not a problem) but I think I can do even more rausholen.
Thanks for the links
Antwort von Jogi:
Basically, it is better image parameters in the Cam reattach. Sure, you can correct the PostPro much. The Camera can be better and high quality, because everything in front of the MPEG encoding is done.
Antwort von ironvillage:
I think the functioning of Yogi is right.
So, we are next in search of the Non Pros Ultra
Antwort von Lutz Dieckmann:
Hi,
I have a few weeks since the EX1 because I can on the Sony Experience Tour of school. In my experience, are the default matrix settings very well. But we all make films of different nature. I get to the training is often the question of the best by setting PP. The answer is: There is not. The PPs are designed for individual requirements. Everyone must be so, as for his film is correct. behind these tests, tests and tests again. I can not say how many I've made.
A manufacturer does not make good movies, the user makes them. By the way, we will at the upcoming DVD EDITING twice EX1 use. The books are already written and still in December, we begin with the shooting.
Many greetings
Lutz
Antwort von frm:
Hi folks,
Now, I have today with the intense Picture Profiles and played using the color vector scope in the right direction.
Green Screen shots in the originals is so with the Ex1 is not (is yellow-green instead of a lush green!)
According to my experience watching the rich color and natural.
Can someone tell me whether you saved the "SETUP.SUF" somehow s.PC read it?
Then can I have my profile posted synonymous here if someone wants to test.
Antwort von ironvillage:
na super
gib gas!
Antwort von frm:
None can tell me whether you saved the camera profile irgenwie s.PC can use or do I write off all the individual parameters?
Antwort von Jogi:
None can tell me whether you saved the camera profile irgenwie s.PC can use or do I write off all the individual parameters? I have not tried. The metadata records are WordDoc's. the h. they can open with Word but not necessarily in the "plain text" readable. Perhaps the PP gesavten similar Datnstruktur. Will I have the opportunity to test times.
Antwort von Jogi:
Hi,
I have a few weeks since the EX1 because I can on the Sony Experience Tour of school. In my experience, are the default matrix settings very well. But we all make films of different nature. I get to the training is often the question of the best by setting PP. The answer is: There is not. The PPs are designed for individual requirements. Everyone must be so, as for his film is correct. behind these tests, tests and tests again. I can not say how many I've made.
A manufacturer does not make good movies, the user makes them. By the way, we will at the upcoming DVD EDITING twice EX1 use. The books are already written and still in December, we begin with the shooting.
Many greetings
Lutz Hello Lutz,
You can have a personal Conclusion for your work with the EX1 give?
Antwort von frm:
Have you actually experience what is better. I did recently in a series about a Fachzeotschrift production read that it is better if the camera in their original condition rather flat record, because then the color in the post better and easier to make. Do you know if there is truth or what is the nr 70000Eur for HD cameras?
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Have you actually experience what is better. I did recently in a series about a Fachzeotschrift production read that it is better if the camera in their original condition rather flat record, because then the color in the post better and easier to make. Do you know if there is truth or what is the nr 70000Eur for HD cameras? In Standard-Setting Picture profiles without recording is no neutral, but details or raising edge is ON. First election with a Picture Profiles and everything is off the record neutral. Contrast, color, or are raising edge should be avoided if you have a Farbfinish in the post with a good result to have.
MB
Antwort von Jogi:
Basically, the settings of the camera's own ideas, ie the cam so that as little as possible in the Postpro must be improved. This applies in particular to the measurements MPEG2 / 4 format. The CAM uses the presets prior to the recording and in the case of an EX1 / 3 higher in 4:2:2 sampling. It captures only what just a 4:2:0 color processing in the NLE limits.
I voted for different recording situations, presets created.
Again there is still plenty of correction in the PostPro on.
Antwort von frm:
Because we could some day replace presets? Would be very informative. I've created a preset synonymous in which the colors do not look so pale.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Basically, the settings of the camera's own ideas, ie the cam so that as little as possible in the Postpro must be improved. This applies in particular to the measurements MPEG2 / 4 format. The CAM uses the presets prior to the recording and in the case of an EX1 / 3 higher in 4:2:2 sampling. It captures only what just a 4:2:0 color processing in the NLE limits.
I voted for different recording situations, presets created.
Again there is still plenty of correction in the PostPro on. In practice, it is nonsense and limits in the post considerably. In particular, the Cine gamma settings in the cam look good, make in the post only problems, because the contrasts (especially Cinegamma 3) sometimes are so high that they are in the post no longer gets packed. A huge mistake with consequences.
And edge is simply raising a taboo, rather later selectively image points to sharpen the whole picture instead kaputtzuschärfen. The sharpness / Kantenanhiebung sees in 16-bit post anyway better than the 8-bit camera.
And what exactly is in the 4:2:2 Camera großartig can accomplish when it nachhher is 4:2:0 anyway? Every professional filmmaker is glad for the material as a raw s.possible is ... Colorist enabled everyone tells you, thou shalt as flat as possible and rotate record ... du kommst and now Have you ever seen 35mm Celluloid uncorrected?
The opposite is the case. The camera must be flat, no contrast, boring, but really exposed. It can be anything you do whatever you want.
Hi folks,
Now, I have today with the intense Picture Profiles and played using the color vector scope in the right direction.
Green Screen shots in the originals is so with the Ex1 is not (is yellow-green instead of a lush green!)
According to my experience watching the rich color and natural.
Can someone tell me whether you saved the "SETUP.SUF" somehow s.PC read it?
Then can I have my profile posted synonymous here if someone wants to test. You make shots for keying and screw s.den colors? Let me not be malicious, but somewhat stupid, I have not heard. Especially when you're keying on it but instructed that it works. Everything here s.der Camera adjustment, it can only do worse, but it must be clear to you. What is the camera can improve what is not already s.Sensor arrives? If your green is yellow, you have either the wrong bulbs, or an incorrect white balance or both.
MB
Antwort von DeeZiD:
Basically, the settings of the camera's own ideas, ie the cam so that as little as possible in the Postpro must be improved. This applies in particular to the measurements MPEG2 / 4 format. The CAM uses the presets prior to the recording and in the case of an EX1 / 3 higher in 4:2:2 sampling. It captures only what just a 4:2:0 color processing in the NLE limits.
I voted for different recording situations, presets created.
Again there is still plenty of correction in the PostPro on.
In practice, it is nonsense and limits in the post considerably. In particular, the Cine gamma settings in the cam look good, make in the post only problems, because the contrasts (especially Cinegamma 3) sometimes are so high that they are in the post no longer gets packed. A huge mistake with consequences.
And edge is simply raising a taboo, rather later selectively image points to sharpen the whole picture instead kaputtzuschärfen. The sharpness / Kantenanhiebung sees in 16-bit post anyway better than the 8-bit camera.
And what exactly is in the 4:2:2 Camera großartig can accomplish when it nachhher is 4:2:0 anyway? Every professional filmmaker is glad for the material as a raw s.possible is ... Colorist enabled everyone tells you, thou shalt as flat as possible and rotate record ... du kommst and now Have you ever seen 35mm Celluloid uncorrected?
The opposite is the case. The camera must be flat, no contrast, boring, but really exposed. It can be anything you do whatever you want.
Hi folks,
Now, I have today with the intense Picture Profiles and played using the color vector scope in the right direction.
Green Screen shots in the originals is so with the Ex1 is not (is yellow-green instead of a lush green!)
According to my experience watching the rich color and natural.
Can someone tell me whether you saved the "SETUP.SUF" somehow s.PC read it?
Then can I have my profile posted synonymous here if someone wants to test.
You make shots for keying and screw s.den colors? Let me not be malicious, but somewhat stupid, I have not heard. Especially when you're keying on it but instructed that it works. Everything here s.der Camera adjustment, it can only do worse, but it must be clear to you. What is the camera can improve what is not already s.Sensor arrives? If your green is yellow, you have either the wrong bulbs, or an incorrect white balance or both.
MB Great
AMEN!
except that I never more a standard gamma camera for this use, since it:
- S.Kontrastkanten medium to strong halos provides
- Highly saturated color unnatural "overflow"
Cine1 / 2 are my favorites, because such material in the post incredibly well with S gamma curves may be stretching.
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von frm:
I'll give you a general right but before you take me next beschimpfst I have two screenshots hochgeldan green screen so you see the difference. Both are with the PMW Ex1 filmed. White Balance is halogen Added to 3200. The recordings are on a theater stage, because there are enough lights to be wrong and I würd profile stage lights and lenses do not describe.
I have a picture added to the material you see. Well guess what the original Sonyand what my preset is.
http://www.fr-multimedia.de/green screen.rar
HG
Florian
Antwort von DeeZiD:
I'll give you a general right but before you take me next beschimpfst I have two screenshots hochgeldan green screen so you see the difference. Both are with the PMW Ex1 filmed. White Balance is halogen Added to 3200. The recordings are on a theater stage, because there are enough lights to be wrong and I würd profile stage lights and lenses do not describe.
I have a picture added to the material you see. Well guess what the original Sonyand what my preset is.
http://www.fr-multimedia.de/green screen.rar
HG
Florian I like the colors in your preset exceptionally good.
BUT:
Keying Interlace +4:2:0 + + detail = On?
I can with the best will not imagine that the later material looks good. (without extremely strong chroma-smoothing at least)
Schonmal 1080p with detail = Off probiert?
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von KrischanDO:
... Let me not be malicious, but somewhat stupid, I have not heard. ... it must be clear to you yet. ...
MB Marc, synonymous if you have a lot of expertise has - you create it that behind an unpleasant tone to hide.
Who really is good, is not arrogant.
CS
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
I'll give you a general right but before you take me next beschimpfst I have two screenshots hochgeldan green screen so you see the difference. Both are with the PMW Ex1 filmed. White Balance is halogen Added to 3200. The recordings are on a theater stage, because there are enough lights to be wrong and I würd profile stage lights and lenses do not describe.
Since only the memory card in MPEG 4:2:0 arrives, it is anyway not suitable for Key. If you are with the EX1 clean keyen, then you have the HD-SDI Out and external use to record, eg with an Aja Kona LHe or BMD DeckLink HD, which is then 4:2:2 HD and looks better than any HD-CAM. To Keyen perfect!
Cine1 / 2 are my favorites, because such material in the post incredibly well with S gamma curves may be stretching.
Consent!
Who really is good, is not arrogant.
CS Who really is good, is not in this forum.
MB
Antwort von frm:
Marc that is obvious to me that I if I start with SDI very good results were erziehlen. What you say about the Picture? If the originals are better or preset, I have the wrong white balance done.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Marc that is obvious to me that I if I start with SDI very good results were erziehlen. What you say about the Picture? If the originals are better or preset, I have the wrong white balance done. Your picture can be left with security not clean keyen as edges, etc. increase, the green is partly at 80%, that's too much, right, the more likely there is a green screen only not bright enough and has too much red, but the edges are much better.
In addition, if you have theater with spotlights to do, your problem is another: infrared light. You need an IR filter, because you share in the IR light after the color candy colors pushes a known problem with CMOS sensors.
Antwort von DeeZiD:
[quote = "Marc ball home"]
You need an IR filter, because you share in the IR light after the color candy colors pushes a known problem with CMOS sensors. Not CMOS - but Sony's problem!
The problem occurs with Sony CCD cameras, regardless of - or CMOS technology.
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
[quote = "DeeZiD"]
You need an IR filter, because you share in the IR light after the color candy colors pushes a known problem with CMOS sensors.
Not CMOS - but Sony's problem!
The problem occurs with Sony CCD cameras, regardless of - or CMOS technology.
Gruß Dennis No, it is synonymous with the red on.
MB
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Incidentally a prime example of edges increase. In compositing, he will look like cut out and framed.
Antwort von DeeZiD:
[quote = "Marc ball home"]
You need an IR filter, because you share in the IR light after the color candy colors pushes a known problem with CMOS sensors.
Not CMOS - but Sony's problem!
The problem occurs with Sony CCD cameras, regardless of - or CMOS technology.
Gruß Dennis
No, it is synonymous with the red on.
MB I would not leave.
The two Sony's burn the dark shirt on the "best";)
http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/awilt/story/three_three_letter_cameras_ex1_f23_red/P4/
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
The problem is not under any circumstances, that's the problem. I did it for the first time with scare noticed, as I easily bewöltem sky had rotated. In the post s.mir I doubt, because I thought I would have had any automatic s.Start ... because depending on how light it violently reacts differently.
MB
Antwort von DeeZiD:
The problem is not under any circumstances, that's the problem. I did it for the first time with scare noticed, as I easily bewöltem sky had rotated. In the post s.mir I doubt, because I thought I would have had any automatic s.Start ... because depending on how light it violently reacts differently.
MB I had it synonymous in the Post noted.
The first time last summer in the sunshine ...
Was a bit of the red roofs confused that I really remember was dark gray. : D
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von frm:
Good to know is only partially true, the Greenscrenn was saumässig brightly illuminated. But infrared filter is a great tip, because I get where or what is to be observed? Würd mich particularly interested whether anyone of you experience with SDI recording devices has. I already have several Geshes on Compact Flash, etc. record. What is there or GBT is synonymous External opportunities you s.einem Windows notebook with power connected. That would be my favorite Preisklase 2000-3000 EUR?
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Good to know is only partially true, the Greenscrenn was saumässig brightly illuminated. But infrared filter is a great tip, because I get where or what is to be observed? Würd mich particularly interested whether anyone of you experience with SDI recording devices has. I already have several Geshes on Compact Flash, etc. record. What is there or GBT is synonymous External opportunities you s.einem Windows notebook with power connected. That would be my favorite Preisklase 2000-3000 EUR? HD-SDI uncompressed CF? So I would say that CF is too slow, it's nothing to you if the device then to violently compressed, then you can indeed equal in the Cam stay.
But I think this may be http://www.aja.com/html/products_Io.html
Is as far as I know but still synonymous others.
MB
Antwort von DeeZiD:
As long as the EX1 will be progressively added, the material can be synonymous super keyen. At least that is my experience so far.
The limit in the 4:2:0 interlaced fashion just too much ... (halves the color ...)
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von frm:
Marc your tip is well intentioned but, like I said, I own Microsoft partner and therefore PC! Aja is my knowledge only on Mac with Final Cut Pro and Quicktime basis.
Is synonymous my opinion, I do not agree with that or not, I said the Farbinfo more like 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 are better. That would be synonymous idiocy. My only question would be with her so what settings keyt with Ex1 and long GOP! I only have my experience with my profile and picture as super gings in AE with KEylight. I've synonymous in 1080P25 / 35MBits recorded.
Antwort von Jogi:
... And raising edge is simply a taboo, rather later selectively image points to sharpen the whole picture instead kaputtzuschärfen. The sharpness / Kantenanhiebung sees in 16-bit post anyway better than the 8-bit camera.
And what exactly is in the 4:2:2 Camera großartig can accomplish when it nachhher is 4:2:0 anyway? Every professional filmmaker is glad for the material as a raw s.possible is ... Colorist enabled everyone tells you, thou shalt as flat as possible and rotate record ... du kommst and now Have you ever seen 35mm Celluloid uncorrected? ...
MB Also generally I work without increasing edges. (Detail off)
I agree with you fully and completely to.
If, however, in the Cam parameters can be set in the Postpro not be nachgearbeitet this is perfectly legitimate. The cam can be better but just because this has just s.unkomprimiertem signal can take place. With low intra-frame compressed material in 4:2:2 is a flat material is certainly advantageous.
