Frage von sick_shit:
Hello!
Hope for your help. Had a relatively large number of cameras and know me a little synonymous with presets and the same from.
But in Ex 1, I s.Ende my knowledge.
I have a big problem with the camera what the noise behavior in the middle or dark tones.
Was preceded by a XH-A1 and am of the opinion that the materially less gerauscht as the EX1.
The Canon was just black black without my BlackBerry up to the gamma ausreizen had.
Hope someone can help me!
Gruß Patrick
Antwort von wontuwontu:
Hello!
Hope for your help. Had a relatively large number of cameras and know me a little synonymous with presets and the same from.
But in Ex 1, I s.Ende my knowledge.
I have a big problem with the camera what the noise behavior in the middle or dark tones.
Was preceded by a XH-A1 and am of the opinion that the materially less gerauscht as the EX1.
The Canon was just black black without my BlackBerry up to the gamma ausreizen had.
Hope someone can help me!
Gruß Patrick Maybe not stupid question, but you have the gain at-3dB?
Antwort von sick_shit:
exactly what I really want to avoid. I experiment in the cam so as to reinforce electronical can.
hab die cam is always at 0 gain. habs synonymous with -3 times already tried and it was almost the same results.
I am amazed stop somehow, because everyone has the cam so what anhimmelt rush and intensity is concerned. till now, I'm actually almost disappointed ...
Antwort von domain:
It was one of the first things that help me with my proboscis shots in the frame analysis were noticed, namely the fine noise synonymous in the middle gray.
However, this noise is so subtle and delicate that it is really only with the finest grain film from earlier periods can be compared.
In addition, you probably do our usual mistakes of the single assessment, the principle is problematic.
Only the current video and you can judge as are the very fine grains of Picture of Picture s.derselben body but not merge the video into a really very acceptable overall impression.
My God, you should test times in comparison to images of the FX1 see where it ants or mosquitoes in derseben video for the current situation the only way would swarm, then you would again be a realistic attitude to the things ever get.
Antwort von wontuwontu:
I give my speakers absolutely right, but you have nevertheless a Still Image for us? I remember at least you can tell if it is normal or not. I've got something in my EX3 can not recognize and I had previously synonymous A1.
Antwort von sick_shit:
Right. The FX1 is echt krass in comparison!
But as I have said to me was the XH-A1 for me the measure of what I do through a new investment would surpass. Ex1 the synonymous still cost you twice as much (probably without accessories, o)) such as the Canon.
Perhaps tomorrow I times comparison really turning it around can be assessed.
I am still the same lad NEN high sample clip where you can put it anschaun what I mean.
Antwort von domain:
I do not know how the images of the A1 in the specific case would be, but one I think I recognize this, if there is no (easy) Noise in the picture specifically described lots, then the picture is not honest, but more on special noise filter hunted.
These lots will then seem as if they have a Aquarellist smeared with the brush and had the need I really do not, but it is now common practice in many camcorders.
Surpassing a slight sharp noise as a blurred Mantsch.
Antwort von sick_shit:
So I've got times 3 shots together s.besten where mans sees my opinion.
And this is not the worst shots are. we have time with his 35mm adapters rotated in the interior and the true is much worse. clearly many are now saying. must be so because of the screen ... but I've already received synonymous with the adapter of us have seen and the not so gerauscht.
Just forming your own opinion. perhaps ichs seh yes really krass. But it knows the content may be better off in the price class.
Here is the shots. s.krassesten it on the white wall in the background. in the "RAW" - even more footage ists. through the h264 codec siehts gegläteter from.
www.roundhousepictures.de / Transfer / Rauschcollection.zip
Antwort von RickyMartini:
I find that the noise is not annoying or not. The Picture vermatscht not synonymous in the dark areas.
Although it is a different class camcorder, but the SR12, which I can currently test, produced in Lowlight with an extreme fondness Gematsche Wabern and, in particular large Grieseln red, as if they were Hi8/S-VHS material.
My HF100 shows on the other hand, a clean, sharp picture without these disorders, as if it is in Comparison with the SR11/12 to an expensive prosumer / professional model would.
I think that Sony still has a lot s.Entwicklungsaufwand operate in order to Canon in this respect to be able to unlock.
In my first outdoor test shots in the sharp winter sun, the HF100 is not a weakness and showed the pictures of the sunset were very clear and low noise.
Antwort von ed-media:
Hello, I have the clip views, s.Anfang it looks quite good.
The landscape a beautiful drawing, so later on after 45 seconds, the landscape is still good, but the sky looks strong after compression artifacts, I had learned that sometimes strong rushing Compression similar in dark areas is perceiving.
When using a 35 mm adapter can I find synonymous with other Cam `s that the film grain then is almost disturbing - and in dark passages Resolutionbei really an HD project is lost.
For a movie project that I currently maintain only with Varicam DVCProHD rotated on, without any adapter, ie clean depth, no Griesel Picture in dark passages, the other with 35 mm swivel adapter in dark passages grieselt it helped me because the grain of the screen echt order.
But in your clip looks odd from even, maybe times in 35 MBit rotate or directly via HD-SDI to NanoFlash (or similar) and then consider what it is.
Antwort von domain:
Although it is a different class camcorder, but the SR12, which I can currently test, produced in Lowlight with an extreme fondness Gematsche Wabern and, in particular large Grieseln red, as if they were Hi8/S-VHS material.
My HF100 shows on the other hand, a clean, sharp picture without these disorders, as if it is in Comparison with the SR11/12 to an expensive prosumer / professional model would.
Well, the EX1 is but still light-years of all of thee above the lowlands away.
But you are quite the SR11/12 produces only really mud, it is in contrast to HF 100 practically hardly what is really important in the Picture recognize.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
Although it is a different class camcorder, but the SR12, which I can currently test, produced in Lowlight with an extreme fondness Gematsche Wabern and, in particular large Grieseln red, as if they were Hi8/S-VHS material.
My HF100 shows on the other hand, a clean, sharp picture without these disorders, as if it is in Comparison with the SR11/12 to an expensive prosumer / professional model would.
Well, the EX1 is but still light-years of all of thee above the lowlands away.
But you are quite the SR11/12 produces only really mud, it is in contrast to HF 100 practically hardly what is really important in the Picture recognize. Previously I had only the possibility with the SonyHVR-Z1 to produce a video - but only in DV. Nevertheless, the picture quality very good result, synonymous with Lowlight. With HDV, I could only test shots, but everything up to that crash have seen clearly. My HF100 comes out of course not.
Antwort von sick_shit:
Ums better able to judge, I have a original clip uploaded.
www.roundhousepictures.de / Transfer / Raw.zip
And for those who do not have Clip Browser I have a few frames.
www.roundhousepictures.de / Transfer / Rauschbilder.zip
Antwort von Jogi:
Noise can with the corresponding gamma curve will be met. There is already synonymous usable presets in the Cam. These are yet to optimize, then roars it is not synonymous. Important is the CAM at-3dB is set and the detailed reinforcement is disabled.
In LowLight s.besten manual set the aperture.
