Frage von Coyoty:
Hello
We currently rotate s.einem Indiana Jones movie. There is a scene in which an opponent `s Indy a deep pit falls down.
I'm at the moment the whole time as I do.
(I cut with Pinnacle Studio Ultimate 11.1)
What do you think? Has anyone of you an idea? If yes, then writes them to me please och.
Thank you very much.
mfg
Muri Film Pictures
Antwort von tfp:
The good man s.besten not pose a real slot, otherwise it is shift in shaft. Vorrausgesetzt the shaft is only 30 cm deep, then of course there were no problem, but would suffer a bit of drama.
How about with:
1. Indy schuckt evil (real Böser)
2. Evil comes in shaft (doll, 3D animation and man on man can do), screams.
3. Jam comes from high shaft, the silent scream.
I would be the 3d animation of the doll prefer, but if you're not familiar, too much time would you need to take into account (it takes forever for a photorealistic human style) it is not worth it would you like with a doll s.meisten served .
Have fun.
Antwort von Coyoty:
Hello
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
That with the doll is a great idea! Had I never come out.
I make it so.
Do you have an idea where you get those dolls?
Had super.
Again, thank you, thank you, thank you!
mfg
Muri Film Pictures
Antwort von Coyoty:
the man on his green earth can fidget, which is then scaled and reinkeyen ..
Antwort von Coyoty:
Hello
I have already considered synonymous, but the problem is the man with the Pinnacle manual scaling to do. That means you have to re-zoom for each video frame is always changing. this is certainly said to me too expensive. Think about it I still have time.
Thank you.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
I have already considered synonymous, but the problem is the man with the Pinnacle manual scaling to do. That means you have to re-zoom for each video frame is always changing. this is certainly said to me too expensive. Think about it I still have time. Hmmm ... Two comments:
1. Can your NLE program really no keyframes, where you have the beginning of the end of the zoom and define, and the intermediate steps are calculated according to auto? Hard to believe!
2. If you, for maybe 5 seconds continuous fall (= 125 frames), manually adjust the size of the falling evil "already too expensive, it is probably not much Attractions in the rest of the movie get out, except for kids in the front of the parental single series with plastic guns and a lot of exaggerated screams cool action hero to make ... Maybe you should have your right and your ambition to issue and the implementation again rethink?
Antwort von Coyoty:
Hello
Ne, the Pinnacle Studio can not do so. All this manual is to make a big job. The result looks s.Ende dan just not so good. The stunt with a doll would be easier to make, but I do not know where it is reasonably priced dolls.
mfg
Muri Film Pictures
Antwort von Coyoty:
Well ... The start button on the camera is red. Perhaps we will start s.besten at times there ...
Do you know Google? No ... then look at google "GOOGLE"! ;-)
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Well ... The start button on the camera is red. etc. ... Oops, sorry, was not logged ...
Antwort von Coyoty:
I have times for 3 minutes at pinnacle.com clever made on your NLE:
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/de/Products/Consumer+Products/Home+ Video / Studio + Family / Studio + Ultimate +11 + Documents / Key + Features / In this case, the this here
Antwort von Debonnaire:
I have times for 3 minutes at pinnacle.com clever made on your NLE: etc., etc. ... Damn, I was hewn out again! They have a little problem with the DB, seems pointed ...
Procurement thee Adobe Premiere Elements in the latest version, and everything you seem to Pinnistudi claim not to be found, and it is tuned. And cost is no longer synonymous tuts! It was now a seriously intentioned, good advice!
Sorry but it takes you a minimum PE s.Einarbeitungsaufwand not what you probably already back but eh too much, or?
Antwort von Axel:
@ Debonnaire. So on the Pinnacle Page is explicitly speaking of keyframes, frame scaling is surely not meant to be.
@ Thread starter. Do you know the cartoon series "Road Runner"? The Coyote falls at least once per episode in a canyon. Dissolved is always with two settings: He runs a few steps into the air, solidifies and looks down, then he rushes out of the picture. In the second setting you can see the top of the gorge, perspectively shortened. The Coyote is always even smaller (scaling), until only one point. A cloud of dust marked the "lands".
If you are the bad guys with keying could exempt, would be a whole host of top zappelnd, screaming, the solution. In the (stationary) shaft copy, small scale and in the case dim.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
@ Debonnaire. So on the Pinnacle Page is explicitly speaking of keyframes, frame scaling is surely not meant to be. Yes, but said that I am at Pinni cunning had made, and that all Pinnistudi CAN! Read up on ...
Antwort von tfp:
Reinkeyen scaling and I've forgotten smooth this morning, is villeicht the better result. But villeicht only synonymous. Clever Ausleuten before or Greescreen Blue is synonymous nor so ne thing that is not easy, but if you are interested in the Super siehts from synonymous.
The doll is of course easier and if you cut fast enough and clever films, kanns synonymous look super.
How Will You s.eine:
1. Google Search.
2. A clothes shop near you gives you a. Maybe slightly damaged, or because of a business task, because the owner likes you, etc.
3. You tinker A. With straw, Dräthen and bags, however, is not synonymous Heiden work. But for quite cost-saving.
4. The Red Cross in your nähe lends you their exercise doll (for resuscitation), it is unlikely but you never know, costs nothing to ask.
5. You can completely eingipsen you, you rausschneiden, glued it back together and paint the whole. Gipsrollen cost almost nothing. If, however, cumbersome and if the first record is nothing you have bad luck, the doll is out.
Antwort von PowerMac:
I have times for 3 minutes at pinnacle.com clever made on your NLE: etc., etc. ...
Damn, I was hewn out again! They have a little problem with the DB, seems pointed ... (...) I was in my life has never been out here.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Dolls:
Ebay "Mannequin" Pricey but you need at least one
Troll under Factory or other latex silicone Buden get everything you need to tinker with dolls too (cast)
Nen green ground and a mechanic on board but it is superior and cheaper joyable synonymous ;-)
Poser 3D figure tinker (may be synonymous photo) into a tube stuck in the Maxon "is infinite and with a real mapping Picture shows .... ne way synonymous
Depends .... can I recommend Making Of "Lord of the Rings" because anschaun times as Gandalf in the fire whirl falls.
The wagon then Greenbox 3D .... takes time and costs money. And certainly not with P.Studio11 drin ;-)
Alla
PS, It reminds me a ....;-)
"Oh yes, one can perhaps synonymous in SL (Second Life) do"
bau there 4 rectangles whose insides you with photos of a ravine versehn do (Still image multiple sections are clean)
the disks in the square aufbaun, link and copy the box and high ziehn ()..... build the towers, you can make as often as you want ..... now shoot with an avatar and with another jump the ravine The avatar can ....... synonymous via breastfeeding avatar image files to Iceland for round 2500 L $ (scarce 3 $) with its authentic-looking "Face" Skin can be created. Then the avatar like TonyHawk dress + modeling as the actor looks halt.
Prior to the recording in the SL Windlight version and start to .... highly graphic video from screen capture ready ....... NEN light filter and is finished.
So it is actually free, if the Map Face itself was synonymous. See http://www.nicolaescher.com/journal/article/22/creating-a-complete-avatar-part-1 (no need Modo as described here is synonymous with other 3D PROGIS if you "want to paint directly Mesh - cheaper but AV Painter, so the un klappts synonymous progi costs $ 12 no ;-)))") Photoshop or Corel, however, necessary.
Movements makes the avatar of the traps themselves .... QAVIMATOR with new movements, but can generate and upload.
There are extra synonymous Camera Scripts (Sl tools in the film and get the settings off ;-)
Search times on Youtube for "SL Windlight" or "Second Life" because there are dozens of videos which are quite good for "free" 3D graphics ;-)
Antwort von Debonnaire:
I was in my life has never been out here. Aha ... AND?
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey,
working with her green-and bluescreen and want keyen, pays attention to the lighting. The light is actually changed when the man in the pit falls. It is simply two or three Baustrahler on the scene to make bright, illuminate possible FROM ABOVE. (If no other lights are available!)
And with a bed sheet makes it then a shadow over the man "grows" so it looks as though the shadow of the wall on the man fall. Subject of course, rather then a "hole", like a fountain. If necessary, you can obviously synonymous later digitally, for example with AfterFX make (so I would make it so that it no trouble keyen there!) But I do think that you as the necessary experience (yet) missing!
Liebe Grüße,
Constantin
Antwort von segler:
Hello
Good idea with the shadow (all ideas were good). I think somehow I will have the right. Maybe I make both synonymous (doll shaft throw and Green Screen). I guess then what s.besten looks.
Thanks s.alle.
mfg
Muri Film Pictures
Antwort von segler:
Oh Yes and one more thing,
This can be with my Pinnacle Studio will not do.
This effect is simply not there.
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/...Studio+Ultimate+11... mfg
Muri Film Pictures
Edit from Mod: And still too long link shortened. Think it tuned itself synonymous times that it is modest, when you're in an ongoing discussion on the Page scroll must be! * evil-guck *
Antwort von PowerMac:
I was in my life has never been out here.
Aha ... AND? Aha ... AND why you howl so continuously rum?
Antwort von gimik:
@ PowerMac: Hast thou not better to do than rumzupöbeln? And all too annoying? If I had time, I would have sympathy with you .....
Antwort von PowerMac:
Yes, I have nothing better to do.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
I was in my life has never been out here.
Aha ... AND?
Aha ... AND why you howl so continuously rum? Very simple: It is clear, what I have written posts, declare me again after I'm kicked out. Is a kind of To-Own-standing contribution. You understand what is behind it?
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Since I'll probably agree to Debonnaire. One can thus relate to someone, or has a "source" ;-) If you often and is very polite.
This really looks like green screen, you need a lot of experience what your editing program, or your Postpro program (such as AfterFX) is concerned. You need the brightness, contrast synonymous but much s.den colors, so that everything looks good. The same applies to the lighting s.Set so you can keyen well. (Eg: If possible no shade!)
Liebe Grüße,
Constantin
Antwort von segler:
Hello Constantin
Thank you for tips, they will remember me.
Liebe Grüsse
Muri Film Pictures
Antwort von PowerMac:
I was in my life has never been out here.
Aha ... AND?
Aha ... AND why you howl so continuously rum?
Very simple: It is clear, what I have written posts, declare me again after I'm kicked out. Is a kind of To-Own-standing contribution. You understand what is behind it? No, please explain it to me again.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
I was in my life has never been out here.
Aha ... AND?
Aha ... AND why you howl so continuously rum?
Very simple: It is clear, what I have written posts, declare me again after I'm kicked out. Is a kind of To-Own-standing contribution. You understand what is behind it?
No, please explain it to me again. Bisch ä Depp!
Antwort von Michaela:
I do not understand it!
Antwort von NikWin:
So I think that's when the animated figure is much zappelt would garnicht remember that they are not genuine. Try it out with Poser.
Also: I have had times Ulead Video Studio. That's actually the same as that of Pinnacle. For Diasows and videos from holiday ok, otherwise, in any case, Premiere or Final Cut to Macs.
Antwort von mmohl:
Do you have an idea where you get those dolls?
In Indymogul explains how you look at something simple and cheap even tinker with it:
http://www.indymogul.com/episode/BFX_20070917
Not super professional, but maybe just right for your purposes.
Antwort von Michaela:
Hello
I've viewed the video. I think I make it so.
The dummy we throw in a fountain and a film that and that's synonymous we face filming on Green Screen. If the cuts together well then it could be really quite good.
Thank you
Lieber Gruss
Muri Film Pictures
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Umm well throw in the NEN? ....
Is the synonymous lit?
How to get back out there doll?
Where are the cameras in the / at / uberm wells?
How / Why does it then the face of the doll (kuckt the case, then high-end person = "300" Like)
Why not put the person out and placing the camera over it, then the camera top (even) up to move?
(NEN Re-Roll person on board)
How long / far will be the person the traps?
Property have no gym where you fall with a high jump mat and scaffolding drehn can nem?
Since the synonymous kannste equal s.die "Rings" and the Greenbox stop taking pictures?
Time and ask nicely "shoes with white soles wear" ;-) then it determines in its gymnasium drehn times.
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey,
with the look of the doll so not too bad, if I synonymous Gaffa instead for a look at a clothing store and would probably go just for the 10-20 ¬ get an old doll ...
But this green-screen recording of how the Perosn falls, so realistic you can see something rare indeed! ;-)
Movies totally love the person, let them really nice fidget and scream and then if they cut, very clean! The doll so you can show how it impacts, how they are synonymous or hinunterfällt of the bottom film.
If all this still does not look realistic enough, you could then still with a 3D program instead of the 3d-doll figure set! (Just forget it and create the most realistic movements imitating ...)
Make the look and everything is so then show us your results, vll video on Youtube upload and link here, or something similar!
Liebe Grüße,
Constantin
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hey ...
...... ¬ 10-20 for an old doll get ... Where I take equal to 20 pc It is then the price for ca ne mannequin.
For 10-20 euro will get 2-3 Styropur heads, Because masks can then tinker or turn off the same / storing it.
;-( So Real doll is not at times, that was mal ne option ... but to "MythBusters's games take times prefer 3D. Haste much faster gebastelt ne doll somewhere and drop it down, as can be synonymous of lower Shooting ..... or or or ....
Conclusion 3D and Green Screen - thats the way to go.
BUT PLEASE FOR THE CAMERA SETTINGS FROM THE BEGINNING AND AN EIGHTH down. IT WILL BE IN THE 3D SCENE USED.
Antwort von edgar:
Hello
Yes, throw in a fountain. We attach the doll s.ende a fisherman Thread (Silk) that is transparent. Cameras, we have a top.
We need to illuminate the fountain, because it now sees the light of her already realistic. The nit the green screen that I have still superior.
Lieber Gruss
Muri Film Pictures
Antwort von edgar:
Toller Effect and so many problems would be solved if you have a few cameras, but Wells would throw
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Why do we need the camera settings? The one sees but afterwards aufm tape ;-) And with appropriate software, the camera tracks synonymous super "to guarantee" ...
Before anyone ne old (defective) wegschmeißt doll, where an arm vll s.Wackeln, you can surely for 20 ¬ ne Puppe get the otherwise waste lands aufm ;-)
Liebe Grüße,
Constantin
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Nochmals Blackeagle123 if you so ne "Old Doll" for 20 euros to realize I can take a.
And fishing line ... so the more Fluorocarbon what you mean ..... and I would recommend Crystal Fire Line
The get in the following strengths s.0, 04 mm - 3.5 kg up to 0.25 mm - 17.5 Kg 0.25 ie single use, we here at synonymous to Waller staple fish. With its good lots of nodes, the connection keeps synonymous.
But a break in setpoint Schnürren arises from
17.5 kg m s.1 cord from a Height of 150 cm drop.
Un d I can tell you like the doll then lie in the fountain remains ;-)) You have to let it impinge bottom and then pull back leisurely. let your doll only to the rope / rope or twine ;-) are falling .... then crashes in the node connection quite nicely .....
You can of course NEN buffer from 0.7 ener flying fish rubber tinker at 8, he keeps the vertebrae, perhaps.
And especially THE LEASH NOT HOLD IN THE HAND, AS THE Cuts THROUGH BUTTER! At its 3 lb +
Test rod curves but can be with its leash about 40 - 60 kilos of fish fish ;-) synonymous purring when only 17.5 kilos has ... that's already ;-)
Where I go, I stopped s.Montag the first time this year on trout ;-))))))))))
PS Fire Line is in the hit, but I would because of expansion so what, do not recommend regular corded geflchtene, the falls may not be enough ;-) Ne 0.35 from here ... but not as bungee use but have enough reserve and then pull up.
Green Screen shots s.Trapez Hanging strap, I recommend that times 0.60 - 0.80 Schnurr braided. The 70 kilos keeps hanging!
Alla Good luck .... I'm already fully wet ens on Monday looking ;-)))
