Frage von Gundi:
Hello,
I have already mentioned as a Panasonic NV GS 280 camcorder ordered. I have today a Battery of Vivanco and a memory card and 2 GB of Panasonic bought. Had asked what memory card is useful. Of the Panasonic now has a transfer rate of 5 MB.Soll faster ....
Now my next question, is a firewire cable sensible? Is it synonymous but via USB?
LG
Gundi
Antwort von Bernd E.:
is a firewire cable useful? Is it synonymous but via USB? In theory, you have one of the few cameras that are actually using USB full quality can capture. In practice, but sometimes it seems that the only theory to be ;-)
http://forum.slashcam.de/fehler-beim-anschluss-panasonic-gs280-uber-usb-with-pc-vt38036.html
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Gundi:
Hello Bernd,
Thanks for the quick response ... again :-)
If I read it all, then yes I have so much before.
Got the manual have been printed, for purely taste. Camera comes either Friday or Monday.
Think I will be here in the forum öferts times "see" can.
Until then
Gundi
Antwort von benni:
cheap firewire cable you get here:
http://www.reichelt.de/?SID=22J16i338AAAIAABU5D801e937c14e2fd4a4ebac172bce67e4e6f; ACTION = 4 gruss
benni
Antwort von Jan:
For the Camera is the Class 2 memory card more than enough.
The pictures are in the best Resolutionmax 1.5 MB. Class 2 means 2 MB are always in stock, 5 MB in the best case (small files, little details).
The wild 10-20 MB / sec agree eh not stand out among the manufacturers. Even for the high-resolution cameras (SD1) is the Panasonic Class II card as sufficient and recommended to, and that revolves around very different data rates (1.6 MB / sec always).
Also, the built-in USB interface of the camera creates the picture does not transfer 20 MB / sec, there's even some Canon Still Image reflex models - well over 1000 ¬ price category in which 7 MB / sec was measured for transmission of images. A fast card reader / writer could be you but for larger data (500 MB) when using an Ultra 10 MB card gift one minutes.
If you buy a program like, yes you can s.Anfang the USB transfer with the included software to use.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jotob1993:
Here synonymous nor my "mustard" to:
I would always advise to firewire so I have very good experiences in addition, individual use Firewire cables and have a high transfer rate (400 Mbit / s)
Antwort von Gundi:
Thank you for the answers.
Think then to judge, is a firewire cable but better.
Have synonymous under the link of Jan according seen. Many great cable ...
But what do I need?
I'm probably still too much for beginners to understand ... or dolle blond :-)))
I am very pleased with the new camcorder, which will be delivered tomorrow, but have the fear that is a long way to go before everything works.
GLG
Gundi
Antwort von benni:
Many great cable ... But what do I need? quite simple. there are at 4-pole and 6 pin firewire cable. s.camcordern are fas 4pole bushes only to find, while s.computern 4 - and 6-pin to use. most is that laptops 4pole bushes and desktop systems 6-pin jacks have.
This is a 4 pin connector:
zum Bild This is a 6 pin connector:
zum Bild this is a 4-pole jack:
zum Bild this is a 6 pin connector:
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Antwort von Gundi:
Well that's already a step forward ....
I know now where the cable is connected and what I need
Thank you very much
Antwort von birdie:
cheap firewire cable you get here:
http://www.reichelt.de/?
Hi Benny,
there cost the cable but synonymous only to the highest levels of 3 euros. Covered are so cheap is not so good?
Have a found at Ebay (angeblicht for Panasonic) for 5,99 euro ..
But synonymous one for 14.99 euros, to be identical with the original's.
Is this for 5.99?
Antwort von Norge:
Hallo Gundi,
wait before you buy the Firewire cable, I was in with a carton of the Cam.
@ Bernd
As far as I know, only the GS 180 in full quality via USB capture. From my own experience I know that the GS 280 can not. o)) is Firewire Firewire.
Vieel greetings!
Norge
Antwort von Markus73:
there cost the cable but synonymous only to the highest levels of 3 euros. Covered are so cheap is not so good?
Have a found at Ebay (angeblicht for Panasonic) for 5,99 euro ..
But synonymous one for 14.99 euros, to be identical with the original's.
Is this for 5.99? Let us consider this: The same to you in for 3 EUR Reichelt get costs in the shop around the corner 15 or EUR 20 :-)
It is enough for 3 EUR of Reichelt, moreover, it is probably better (in relation to processing, not transmission quality) than any of Ebay stuff. Alleine has the remark "for Panasonic" suggests that because someone has zero clue. Firewire is digital, which means it works or it does not work. If it does, then with 100% quality. And Reichelt is sure that it is a reputable source, as opposed to Ebay. So why pay more?
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Bernd E.:
@ Bernd
As far as I know, only the GS 180 in full quality via USB capture. From my own experience I know that the GS 280 can not. The fact that Firewire is more likely to recommend, because of course I'll vote for. Nevertheless, after my knowledge have the NV-GS180/280/300/500 all the USB 2.0 "High Speed" connection and can use it DV material in the same quality as with Firewire to send Calculator. I'm pretty synonymous ensure that each of the four models corresponding experiences here in the forum there.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
Do it how you want Gundi.
If you do not want to spend money, then at least play with your camera with USB (supplied) and take to the supplied! Software. Of course you should be synonymous a 2.0er USB connection.
If you have a better program would use, and the 50-100 ¬ ausgibst then you buy the Firewire cable.
Let's ask the stupid times velocity comparisons, 400 Mbit / sec are not needed. Sonyhat not without reason, the S 100 (100 Mbits / sec) Firewire port at all! MiniDV consumer cameras installed. Why synonymous faster, those admitted 25 MBit / s only need to be done, the tape is abgespult eh. Maybe a few Mbits / sec more beötigt, but not a 400 MBit / sec.
You can just as with USB with Firewire problems, I hope when you klappts equal s.Anfang.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Exactly,
if I interpret benöigt see DV 3.6 MB / s
or was I wrong?
/ E
Antwort von Jan:
Actually Eva already, perhaps there is a kind of buffer. So just know I'm in the PC world is not enough.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Actually already - what - false,
würd mich Although surprised, but since I let myself be happy to teach,
/ E
Antwort von Jan:
Perhaps the system of the PC & Mac is not always stable, and there is a slight upward korigierte data laid to make sure the data on the other neatly arrive.
I do not know exactly.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Eva Maier:
If Nobody's as accurate way, then we calculate holding times,
13 GB per hour / 60/60 = 3.69 MB per second
(uncompressed, it would be 25MB / s)
Comparison to:
DV 25MB / s
BetaCam 50 MB / S
HDTV 120 MB / s
/ E
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Addendum:
1 Mbyte = 8Mbit
Everything after that must be shared Comparison.
and HDTV = 1200 Mbits / s
/ E
Antwort von Gundi:
So, now is because my camcorder. Genuine knuffig.Hatte advance of Sonyden Hi 8 camcorder.
Be the Ebay verkaufen.Die are still genuine demand.
So battery is charging ... And then we go.
But it is unfortunately not a firewire cable (as mentioned above) here.
So I will provide me one.
Reichelt wanted in order, but since I am not on the minimum order. Should you still pay 3 euro drauf. I think somehow cheeky ..
So tomorrow I will go to Saturn and a purchase.
We listen to each other :-)))
Antwort von PowerMac:
If Nobody's as accurate way, then we calculate holding times,
13 GB per hour / 60/60 = 3.69 MB per second
(uncompressed, it would be 25MB / s)
Comparison to:
DV 25MB / s
BetaCam 50 MB / S
HDTV 120 MB / s
/ E Ouch, all wrong.
DV has 35 Mbit / s or approximately 3.5 MB / s
Uncompressed SD PAL 4:2:2 at 8 bits and has approximately 180 Mbit / s (depending on the host system and what sound) that is approximately 20-25 MB / s
HDTV 1080/50i in 8-bit uncompressed 1100/1200 Mbit / s or approximately 140 MB / s
What you with Betaam title, is to me questionable. There are several Betcam systems, some are analog, some digital and uncompressed all differed on the disk system of internal compression. For example, internal Digibeta has a much lower data rate than uncompressed SD. Unfortunately the specification, they will not go outside, it can therefore only digitally via SDI and uncompressed capture.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
I've got my data from a table for digital tape formats,
've unfortunately overlooked that information in bits and bytes were there.
For the amateur bestenfallas that is interesting but not important
this is more a question of whether the existing hardware is sufficient.
and does it at least for IR.
/ E
Antwort von PowerMac:
I have not started with the wrong number;)
Only nonsense and then tell it all at once eh no preference ...
Antwort von Eva Maier:
It may be that I have misinterpreted, so here is my source
http://home.germany.net/101-81660/digitale.htm#Signaldarstellung
/ E
Antwort von DWUA:
Back to the title "Firewire cable sense?"
Who da knausert, has already lost ...
We use for a decade, and in continuous operation without
synonymous only ever any problem to have these:
They are transparent, one can detect the screen beautifully.
On the one Page 4 -, on the other 6-pin.
(Was not quite as cheap, has obviously paid off!
For the next 11 years, we have no plan)
On the plug casing is a character that looks like a
angebissenes apple.
So now, some from the woods out checks,
about us descend to us aufzufressen.
Then thank God we are already long ago somewhere else again!
Cordial greetings!
Antwort von Gundi:
Hi DWUA,
That was a super tip.
WHAT TO SAY ... was not so cheap?
WHAT IS 'apple' thing?
Go with this information and looking to buy a cable :-))
At the other with "real" tips:
Shooting photos and works sometimes.
Now come the nuances ..... umpteen settings.
But you know, practice makes the master
LG
Antwort von Bernd E.:
not so cheap ... "apple" drauf Sounds very much like a product of Apple, right? ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
