Frage von paan:
day
I want a little bit off in DVD authoring for film.
Now I would like to know what the fees are attached.
For example:
- DVD Authoring (animated menu, chapters, extras, etc)
- Cover and Label Design
For the graphic design alone, I would be 500-600, - reckon.
what do you think?
mfg
Paan
Antwort von B.DeKid:
day
I want a little bit off in DVD authoring for film.
........
For the graphic design alone, I would be 500-600, - reckon.
Gude Na once owned and then 500 -600 euros for the graphic design
Sorry sounds like a 'wedding film at
So firstly you need to find customers
Secondly, what are the film productions ask from your perspective?
Just as an example .... XXX total production costs between 5000 and 10000 euro because everything is inside of fees with the Cast
Camera Lighting Sound Team of renting rooms and the first 500 - 1000 finished DVDs.
Then another example times
Photos for companies or their products
Since fall finished breastfeeding per image fees of some 150 - 500 + Euros.
So you have to first find the customer of your findings so so convinced are you that you book.
And without a firm and correct real references because I see black.
Constructed with hourly times prefer the 20 - 50 euros and then consider how long you really need and expect this together.
And the levy of taxes is not forgotten.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
For the graphic design alone, I would be 500-600, - reckon.
LOL ... You probably
want the happy turn deserve. However, it is only "black". If you do that, but as a reasonable trade registered and searched all neatly pay taxes (VAT, income tax, IHK contribution, other contributions to professional associations, health insurance, pension insurance, liability insurance, various insurance companies for your equipment, vehicle, plus insurance to telephone and and and), evaporating at least two-thirds of the specified amount.
So you have to first find the customer of your findings so so convinced are you that you book.
And without a firm and correct real references because I see black. Without references you have been
very, very good. You want "a bit off"? I do not know if you have times of self-employment have lived, "a little" is there but a bit incompatible with this. Just in DVD Studio rumklickern may not be enough.
"without proper company do you work then just black, because you have after the first two weeks on the Kiek the first display and then rolls synonymous already pure. Oh yes, you can create your account in moonlighting does not even sue ..
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Verdammt nochmal ... Answered the question but simply what he wants to know, rather than primarily vorzurechnen him that he does not bring it anyway and has no chance eh! Was für ne Miesepeterei (Vorallem and as always you B.deKid!).
Whether and how Paan then s.seine orders rankommt and how he has applied his business and whether and how he paid his toads, can you really piepegal to view him with a realistic assessment of a fee for his services intended to give! What have you just always (frustration-) problems here ... echt!
Antwort von High_Tension:
OK, I try:
I would s.Deiner place with the following questions:
For whom do I work? Can the client my daily rate (?) Afford?
It makes a difference whether you grandma Erna 600 ¬ to have left their old 8mm ansprechend recordings on DVD or whether you pack Pt 2 ET for Spielberg authorst (wasn word). You'll quickly find that the contracting entities and rarely want to pay what you want.
What do potential competitors for the same or similar service? Can I make something that justifies the cost?
I would simply look at the competition and spying me (+/-) to adjust those prices if I like bar. If you have any point in a crucial More power can offer, I would the client in any case so communicate.
Your price mentioned seems to me to be a bit too high ... but you can synonymous s.Design 2 full days will, which is 500 ¬ in turn would justify. I think that basically all the money matters a difficult thing. There is a little bit and try a bit of "On foot fall" is not unusual.
For the legal stuff:
Learn before you, otherwise you could have problems afterwards. (Only in the event that more than a single action should be)
Regards
Max
Antwort von fokuss:
I would suggest you to start your "career" the price should be lower than you had actually planned. Though it would be super if you immediately to your customers about your ideas werke paid - but it is normally and without vorreferenzen unlikely. This fact could be for you is frustrating (especially if your results really are worth much more), but reduces the risk to the nose to drop and do the job to lose. I think with a few euros less in the pocket you can start to live better than missing folgeaufräge to get your call because it has not improved by an estimated. in the course of time developing you a hand for the pricing and can choose your benefits like higher synonymous sell ...
felix
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
Your price mentioned seems to me to be a bit too high ... but you can synonymous s.Design 2 full days will, which is 500 ¬ in turn would justify. If you do that with a properly registered trade calculate are - I already mentioned it - of which 2 / 3 times already and running costs s.Abgaben disappeared. Remains one in this industry not just normal yield of> 30% (normal, perhaps 10%, but times for the moment no preference).
Stay not quite 170 euros for 2 days of work left. As a liberal and / or self-employed, you can 8 h / day and come naturally bend more at 10 or 11 For 11 hours / day do you work for is
around 7.5 Euro net - and without any guarantee that the synonymous really comes clean: Customer results may find that synonymous shit and refuse. Since you at the beginning of course not 100%'re busy, do you - if you're really good! - All appropriate to 5 euros net. For the coal, our intern half a year ago in the beverage market crates stacked ...
Verdammt nochmal ... Answered the question but simply what he wants to know, rather than primarily vorzurechnen him that he does not bring it anyway and has no chance eh! That is - but not precisely done - was next up. I understand your excitement is not: If the questioner fully alongside the track and is apparently not the slightest idea of which has, for the net "worthwhile" he actually worked, then surely a reference to this miscalculation allowed, right?
Contributions a la "boah geil, los mach, toll, supi, pointed" I leave it like others.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Verdammt nochmal ... ....... Was für ne Miesepeterei (Vorallem and as always you B.deKid!).
...... What did you just always (frustration-) problems here ... echt! Will clear my friend? Months before I got almost the same question and the answers were not exactly better. And where I've now managed to Jung dirty thing? And especially when I make the people down `?
So I'll give myself more objectively and not bother to be abusive.
And incidentally times - are you self-employed?
If you do not own it but are simply silent. I'm there and I can tell you the damn hard umbedingt and not everybody's thing.
So before the next time ziehn her about me, then simply überleg again if the makes sense.
Otherwise I find your argument anyway Submitted for Popo. It is absolutely without foundation.
But is ok, yes I have of you yet was never heard and sehs times than Tempore # ren incident.
Synonymous is not bad because, I think ok, when people say to me the sun is not out of the Ar * ch seems.
But should NEN bissel remain correct, and not over react.
Alla what I wish you and thanks you for my position gives me to have, I sometimes need.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: @ Paan Hoffe Du hast me not be misunderstood, but sometimes takes a bit of a rough note formulate some difference already opened and someone a better view on the subject.
Antwort von PowerMac:
And what it argues now? I do not even look, what exactly is your problem.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
I alternate s.besten the industry and be professional mediators - There is definitely more demand than in the industries I cover so far ...
At the Slashcam Editorial - What daily rate you are willing to pay me? ;-)
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Here's my question after a Gage FOOD for photos, so you can see the synonymous I sollche can ask questions and I am aware that I am not the Chief.
http://www.dslr-forum.de/showthread.php?t=299284
And here gabs / gibts nix to "disputes", I found the insertion of Debonnaire ok, so everyone can say what he müchte. I can be with chen looking pretty good life, just müchte not be misinterpreted.
The question was what is the cost is a justified question, and particularly for the many providers are there in this often very reserved Schwaqnkende statements / Prices ..... because I've synonymous as a "newbie" is not always through.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: One of the photos, it was so easy to garnicht the topic to find something which you could prepare. One advantage was the photograph of food but it still holds good ;-)
From the Gage after deducting all expenses and taxes, however, remained virtually nothing left, but then I did the TK chest but still full 2 weeks with samples ;-)
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
For "normal" photos, ie without complicated studio setup, lighting, models and and and (reporting, etc.) we will start with the records of the MFM s.and only work there for us of up high. The rate for Internet publications currently at 360 euro. Hit rate is averaged, for example, a (very large) event, ie a total of closed sales of recordings: 1:250. Yes you can calculate how long the cameras at something and think how much disk usage we have.
We even wear the "Recycle Bin" icons on the desktop ;-)
At the Slashcam Editorial - What daily rate you are willing to pay me? ;-) priceless :-)
Antwort von High_Tension:
If you do that with a properly registered trade calculate are - I already mentioned it - of which 2 / 3 times already and running costs s.Abgaben disappeared. Remains one in this industry not just normal yield of> 30% (normal, perhaps 10%, but times for the moment no preference).
Since he was of "I want a little off ..." has written, I assumed that, if any real business, at least in the small scheme would take with him. In other words, I assumed that he thinks prices. The VAT is the company eh no preference;)
Apart from that I do not how many of these recurrent costs will be if he is beginner. The largest current pile, rent for business premises, is expected to disappear as well ... This in turn has the advantage that you can start cheaper price if you have to;)
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
Apart from that I do not how many of these recurrent costs will be if he is beginner. Just thought I> 15 years synonymous :-)
So if you
absolutely sowas "incidentally" through wishes: as a freelancer for agencies demand (without references is not as synonymous). Then, on an hourly basis / orders settle there. Many agencies have a freelancer, if his staff is not enough time / pregnant / sick or on holiday disappears.
The word "incidentally" in the industry, incidentally rather negative connotation.
Antwort von paan:
because you see two times daily not only what one has and s.posts
already have proper debates developed, well.
Many words have fallen.
just to briefly clarify.
I work with my small graphic design company www.retina-graphics.com
next to my studies and earn for a CD layout (booklet, label, cover, etc) ever liked 600, --
So I think the whole is not plucked from the sky.
only I am in the world of DVD authoring and incorporated
would like next to the menu covers synonymous shape (which I
meinung very often quite grottich productions are in German).
Synonymous What I did not mention is that my purpose for authoring dvd-porno-film to make (especially since as the
menus and the graphics are extremely poor, but the porno market is one of the largest of the DVD market represents)
apparently, the hourly wage / price expectations are very different (as always in the creative-freelancer-kampfumsüberleben jobs)
So leave me on my feeling and my working hours.
viel spass euch.
regards
Paan
Antwort von Isekram:
hhmmmmpppfffffff ... .....
As usual, the sound again Schreier wild drauflos fabuliert and nothing but unnecessary commotion produced.
Also, the real question remained unanswered.
Since one can only say misguided theme.
Antwort von DWUA:
Liebster Isekram,
was not so blind to your well-meaning eye ...
It should read:
Apart from "Power" and "Smooth-Appeal"!
And many, viieelen visitors.
;))
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
As usual, the sound again Schreier wild drauflos fabuliert and nothing but unnecessary commotion produced.
Look at times the original question.
Reads just like the question of a totally alien industry that is fast euro incidentally wants.
Then, many many posts later, it turns out, is already in the industry. Ach nee? There were some - I synonymous - a great deal of trouble and save time if he so like the beginning of s.herausgerückt would.
And so now is the fact for me: the aims only tap what the others take for Prices. Either from laziness, which is itself time to calculate, or to the pros easy to be able to offer.
According to the usual Schreier na at least there is no s.Arroganz.
Antwort von paan:
nice forum you have here.
one of my first forum contributions, perhaps unfavorably, or simply formulated.
but of course you get sober pleasant reply.
I have obviously nothing better to do than any one to select
and "easy times coal tap" the other take the work away ......
well, you have to have complex, sorry.
I am truly sorry for your precious time, "Eugene of" ... maybe you should be less
in other forums rumhängen to "apparently" wanting to help.
what I wanted to learn, but collegiality is probably not required.
beautiful day
Antwort von PUDU:
small, well-intentioned "off-topic-notice": your website will not display correctly, what it is that the HTML that you use in your frameset containing umlauts ( "mainmenüframe.html" and "menüleiste.html"). Instead, you should know it better as "menueframe.html" call. firefox forgive this mistake, so it probably works for you. if it is necessarily a frameset should be (which is not the most elegant variant is), you should be flexible frames a "*" to assign the static frames and a fixed amount and disable the scrolling.
viele grüße, Pudu
Antwort von paan:
many thanks for the tip.
've long sought, why leigt that the page no internet explorer understands ...
'm not synonymous webdesigner.
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
I am truly sorry for your precious time, "Eugene of" ... maybe you should be less in other forums rumhängen to "apparently" wanting to help.
Many thanks for your recommendation. The I will now my cats to play.
