Frage von rushtone:moin, ich hab mich mal bissel NEN around because I ne wanted to buy new cam ..
it is clear to me I want to buy an HD camera.
I do hobby mäßig wakeboard filme -> www.pirates-of-main.de
there are 2-3 examples ..
so now I have nearly 2000 ¬ on premises and would like to see that the price for this segment best cam to put ..
I have been synonymous and one in the eye while the Sony HVR A1E to 1900 ¬
Now I have something weitergeschaut Slashcam here on cam and have discovered the following:
www.camcorder-test.com/camcordercmd-i-view-u-what-i-detail-u-id-i-51-u-name-i-Sony-HDR-SR12E.html
1920 x 1080 ... full hd for 1200 ¬
now I'm s.grübeln .. why is a professional camera like the HVR with 1440 x 1080 as the cheaper hdr with 1920 x 1080?
and how exactly to play the maximum bitrate as with pure?
because the HVR has 25MBit / s and the hdr has only 16MBit / s..
I damn about super cool ton, I just want a first class building ..
with super farben ..
kann mir da jemand NEN tip that befor I spend sooo much ..
Edit from Mod: headline changed.
Antwort von chlorophyll:
But both are no professional cameras
Antwort von chlorophyll:
But both are no professional cameras hmm, I was the HVR eminem would be at least semi professional?
nevertheless a type for which many of the cams should I decide if I really NEN klasse bild wants ..
Antwort von chlorophyll:
Professional camcorder or handle men in plastic housing, two pairs of shoes. Put approximately EUR 25,000 on it and buy you a XDCAM HD (SonyPDW-700).
Antwort von chlorophyll:
Good pictures with all the manual setting, it actually comes s.wie good you are.
If you only work in auto mode test is actually a 800th - Cam is the better choice.
Antwort von chlorophyll:
ok out of me then it is not semi profi cam .. is to me synonymous relatively no preference .. ;)
I could still tip NEN what I get for my 2000 ¬ could buy?
or what for my purposes the best thing?
Antwort von chlorophyll:
HV 30
Antwort von chlorophyll:
Before the purchase comes the test. You borrow from both models and test them on location (Ewamarine cover not forget;))
Antwort von chlorophyll:
Hv 30, usable Statief and a few books, so you have certainly a lot of joy.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
XHa1 or Canon. a used Canon XL1S-2 are nice cameras.
About the photographs of me used the XL1S has yet None of my guys can complain.
Alla MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Theo_Rehticker:
The HVR has professional XLR connections for good sound. Since you like the sound is no preference would be the HVR perhaps the wrong choice. Advantages of the HVR for your service options: the lens is manual focus and the Touchsceen allows a sharpening position by tapping. That strikes me as ideal for dedicated amateurs. True professionals are on the nose but the hulls.
The advantages of the other models are the better, sharper picture. The HV20/30 has the most control options, but they are severely restricted - no real wheel but a tiny s.Lens to smooth wheel next to the lens. If operating options are also no preference and only the best possible picture counts, I think the Canon HF10 for the best choice.
HF10 at Slashcam I'm by far no expert, but I wanted a HVR A1 auction - I've synonymous: supplement for about 650 ¬ uro - too good to be true - Well, the money I get back and my HV30 increased. I'm very satisfied, the picture quality exceeds my abilities honestly. But the housing and quality controls than I feel really bad - there are more robust toys.
The accessories really is very, very important: lens hood, wide-angle attachment, polarizer, tripod and the aforementioned protective housing of Ewa-Marine underwater even with the shots I think are possible for your project as essential. The accessories can easily more than 1000 ¬ total.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
HVR A1E ... for 1900 ¬ ... HDR-SR12E ... for 1200 ¬ ... why is a professional camera like the HVR with 1440 x 1080 as the cheaper hdr with 1920 x 1080 ... Following your example, the prices HVR-A1 but not cheaper than the SR12? Apart from the price or define professionalism - and the A1 will be of professional cameramen used - not primarily on the number of pixels.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von chlorophyll:
So dedicated hobby filmmakers take it quite well. But I'm still not conclusive. I assumed that I had the best picture with its high resolution. The hv30 has 1440 x 1080 why is it now better than the above with 1920 x 1080 and extend plays with purely because bitrate? Thanks for the reply to her.
Antwort von chlorophyll:
The Bildquallität hengt much of the manual settings.
Objektief also plays a major role
Antwort von weitwinkel:
So dedicated hobby filmmakers take it quite well. But I'm still not conclusive. I assumed that I had the best picture with its high resolution. The hv30 has 1440 x 1080 why is it now better than the above with 1920 x 1080 and extend plays with purely because bitrate? Thanks for the reply to her. I have photos of digiknipsen with 7 megapixels seen which were
much worse than with 3 of a megapixel.
gruß cj
Antwort von Theo_Rehticker:
Beginners do as I hard here, "wise words" to keep my mustard but I would like to give.
The best camcorder, there are just as the best car there. A good little race car if you only launch with durchdrehenden wheeled how. For camcorders, I see the same, the best picture is a professional not satisfied if he does not want all parameters and quickly adjust control. Conversely, a Dillettand (like me, the word has ever synonymous a positive character, for example, Edison was Dillettant) with the possibilities of a professional camera be overwhelmed or not to s.das feasible ausreizen. Try some of these models somewhere in the hand and take with anzutesten what you can really friends. The last Quentchen picture quality is not so severely felt as possible operator error. And to make this all more or less - bet.
Antwort von chlorophyll:
So I have now decided the HV 10 ...
together with its 4gb sd card + postage and packing ¬ 1009.00
synonymous, I have lots of money saved ..
I just hope it is what I expect s.bild quality .. 've so far always with my dcr DVD 500 filmed ..
just hope we see a real difference ..
ps a question I have .. what is better 1080/25p or 50i?
50i are as far as I know yes 50 fields and 25p, 25 full pictures ..
but what is better? and yes werd ich mir mal NEN BuyThisBook .. ;)
thanks for the reply I know are totalle initial questions ..
Antwort von immanuelkant:
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ps a question I have .. what is better 1080/25p or 50i?
.... because there is no blanket answer: If your editing system and your TV 1080p @ 25 support (which is the exception rather be) - try 'it out!
Progressive images are due to the lack of deinterlacing quiet, but have disadvantages in the case of fast movements (bucking).
Antwort von chlorophyll:
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ps a question I have .. what is better 1080/25p or 50i?
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because there is no blanket answer: If your editing system and your TV 1080p @ 25 support (which is the exception rather be) - try 'it out!
Progressive images are due to the lack of deinterlacing quiet, but have disadvantages in the case of fast movements (bucking). ahh the next one can ask avid liquid 7 with the AVCHD format to use?
or do you have the whole in another format NEN bring?
hmm you say 25p is rare ..
I can but with the shots I amche since then, or?
and the whole in a format to bring my tv or not?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... you can avid liquid 7 with the AVCHD format to use? ... To my knowledge, no liquid AVCHD. Only the name is not yet known successor, the sometime times come, will probably get along.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Elenex:
So hmm, I must advance the AVCHD format to another format conversion, the next I can work with liquid ..
or else I must NEN schnittprog take yes?
Recommendations s.schnitt progs?
I lose picture quality when I of AVCHD to avi or mpg convert?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... So, I must advance the AVCHD format to another format convert ... If you're the guest of a few posts up next bought a HV10, is the topic you AVCHD but do not, because that is a previous HDV Camera. I suspect, however, that any other camcorder you've ordered, because the HV10 synonymous with an SD card could not start. From what (apparently AVCHD -) Camera, we are talking here in reality?
Gruß Bernd E.
PS: Even as the unexpected guest is indeed possible to imagine an author name or a name at least the contribution must be set. So keep reading the better the view, who has now written what.
Antwort von immanuelkant:
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hmm you say 25p is rare ..
I can but with the shots I amche since then, or?
and the whole in a format to bring my tv or not? It depends of your TV off! Very few have an actual HDTV 25p mode (which most can 'only' 24p). So check your TV before, otherwise the whole thing makes no sense!
Your editing program should be synonymous 25p dominate - but because the probability even higher.
Antwort von rushtone:
... So, I must advance the AVCHD format to another format convert ...
If you're the guest of a few posts up next bought a HV10, is the topic you AVCHD but do not, because that is a previous HDV Camera. I suspect, however, that any other camcorder you've ordered, because the HV10 synonymous with an SD card could not start. From what (apparently AVCHD -) Camera, we are talking here in reality?
Gruß Bernd E.
PS: Even as the unexpected guest is indeed possible to imagine an author name or a name at least the contribution must be set. So keep reading the better the view, who has now written what. yes, I was the guest .. and I've found myself incorrectly I have the HF10 ordered ..
and because the topic concerns me but AVCHD. ;)
can not be synonymous with the 50i recording .. or convert the 25p material?
Antwort von Zizi:
How can I tell if my TV has 25p?