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Frage von davidsch:


Good evening,
So here comes the second part.
The prehistory
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Good evening,
ah, once everything was so easy. My father has bought a video camera to record on VHS and then you could watch it ^ ^.
Ok, kidding aside.
Since I am a part-time job besides my studies s.etwas Money am come, I wanted to give me a HD camcorder to buy. Have herumgelesen anywhere and first discovered that there is any camcorder at least a thousand different opinions exist;). Initially, I had the Sanyo VPC-HD1000 in view. 400 euro appeared to me cheap. But very soon I will from Panasonic HDC-SD9 read, which I found very interesting synonymous (especially this "help mode").
But my research here at Slashcam showed that the image probably is not as exhilarating. That is why I have the Canon HF100 is now in sight, although quite a bit more expensive. If this equipment purchase with everything, I would say: "ok, I take". Now however, the larger problem: The hardware in my PC. Preferably, I would have a continuous thread. But
from consideration for the structure that I open forums to continue elsewhere.
So a small intermediate question here:
Which of the three camera would you choose? I must say that I would like a bit of everything. He will always be there, but I would like to synonymous beautiful
Pictures of my girlfriend can make or artistic films, great nature shots. But I think that my idea of "beautiful" less "beautiful" as you;). Of course, I realized that I mentioned in the price class do not get professional equipment. But we currently have in the family camera, with the remaining on small-VHS tapes recorded. So better than that is determined;).
Thanks again for your answers
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Now the entire complex. Currently I own calculator of Medion, the MD8800. However, meanwhile a technician present, the mainboard, the power supply AND the hard drive replaced, since all three things malfunction (All THREE ?!?!). Well, the HDD had bad sectors and not because I had so much knowledge, I have always thought that the hard drive just as a whole may break down, so I regularly complete ne external HDD to have copied. The only problem is that meanwhile have broken files, which I obviously have not noticed (who already controlled every file). And so were the "cure" of the files brav defective overwritten -.-. Unfortunately, all my photos, documents and videos (including many small mobile videos, vacation videos, family chronicle) 60GB total size. This on a regular basis to secure at least with DVDs is not so readily feasible.
My first question: Can the HDD broke down, because it was too hot? Currently showing me the "HDD thermometer" (a software), the HDD is 34 degrees warm. If I touch it, she is lukewarm about.
Well. I want this PC with HD video cut, which probably is not very likely. Initially I thought, this PC might upgrade. Would still be worthwhile? I hold particularly important that the hard drive remains beautifully cool. If this HDD Thermometer can be trusted, it seems so to be in the cabinet (although older Medionpc yes there are problems). Then I would housing for cost reasons and from an aesthetic point of view continue.
The problem is that the costs rise quickly into the immeasurably. I have bought Windowsxp. That I could continue. But for the HD-DV editing but you need more memory than Windows XP can manage. I see that right? I have before me a long time a 1GB memory module purchase, but to me, said the technician, who should not be fitted as more equipped to be doubled. So 2 * 1GB or 2 * 512MB or more as synonymous. Now we come back to the mainboard. I suspect that the technician is exchanged against a new COULD have, because it does not recognize Everest. Synonymous Logically I know not whether I get a new processor it can lubricate or additional memory. Miscellaneous data:
CPU

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

The hard drive may be dying a slow death "Die Hard".
From the death of individual sectors on a defective BIOS to "sudden Plattentod" is everything.
Anyone who does not constantly backing up his important - and these synonymous controlled - can Superdatengau experience.

It's all a matter of personal discretion - what is to me synonymous worth of data (and knowing)?

Under 2GB RAM and a lively, large hard drive, it does not begin with DV editing, since the hardware requirements in this division has always been extremely high. With HD has again confirmed.

Synonymous One might conclude that a high-SpielePC ideal for DV editing is appropriate, since this genus particularly good with PC hardware is (Top CPU, lots of RAM, fast HDD and large, very good graphics and sound, numerous unions).
If it is, however, by a PC with a total of just below hardware is not a good gaming experience even a satisfactory video performance guarantees - causing frustration in every respect leads.

Given the performance of your PC, I would say that at least 2GB RAM in the box need to at least a 320GB disk, so that reserve is still something. From the P / L ratio is currently nothing but passing s.1TB plates (with 3.5 "drives and 500GB for 2.5" models).

For DV editing, it should be (with appropriate editing software), then all rich. If you want HD video editing, every Mhz and especially the CPU architecture (an Intel C2D with 1066MHz FSB and at least 2Ghz should it happen).

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

With the camcorder alone is far from done, as a strong Battery (approx. 100 ¬) and in the still HF100 SDHC card (16GB for about 25 ¬) are required.
Also require HDD / card camcorder after backup drives (60 ¬ for 500GB 3.5 "USB x2). Otherwise, all your data in the video nirvana lost! A backup on DVD is also recommended.

Without a good editing program (Canopus Edius NEO, p. 80 ¬) is the camcorder worthless and a playback program for AVCHD (H.264 HD). "Cyberlink Power DVD 8 Ultra" for about 40 ¬ for the best offers on.

I step through this process, moreover, too. ;)
Oh yes, since you're Studneht, Offers ich dir (if not already done so) in a study of credit kfw to ask. Then a little more money left over for you - I do as a "colleague" as well use them.

Grüß me your girl!

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Antwort von darg:

Ne lot of thought and beautiful to see that here one time before that and then asked open questions :-)
To everything a little at one point to make with the Cam-Choice is your current calculator completely overwhelmed. AVCHD is the play but just edit it with the old dual-core blend sorry.
Your Cam choice basically restricts you to either convertieren the original files in an easy to edit format, which is all the time in the world will last permanently and frustration only brings you or you Holst synonymous a new calculator.
As for Cam, I would recommend HF100, as their codec still is quite easy. The Sanyo kannste forgotten in relation to the workability of the codec and the picture quality synonymous.
On your computer problem might say: Tough luck with the hardware. Hard disks can be synonymous piecemeal way to die, the two had Maxtorplatten before Seagate bought the Totalausfaelle :-) I have not had.

Generally, the transition to HD, or always late with Hardwareaufruesten connected. Bin da synonymous through but it was worth it :-)

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Antwort von beiti:

"shown" wrote: To everything a little at one point to make with the Cam-Choice is your current calculator completely overwhelmed. AVCHD is the play but just edit it with the old dual-core blend sorry.
Your Cam choice basically restricts you to either convertieren the original files in an easy to edit format, which is all the time in the world will last permanently and frustration only brings you or you Holst synonymous a new calculator.
That I see differently. A new calculator allows best AVCHD editing with 1-2 traces, and the whole thing is still running slow (eg if you or one frame backward ranks - that is with AVCHD because of the GOP structure of extremely compute-intensive).

I plead for cut in the intermediate format. Convert to this format takes the worst as long as the duration of the film, with new computers even significantly less. There is at least as fast as for example with the HDV recording an HV30 that takes place in real time from the tape must capture.
The only disadvantage of Intermediate is the high memory requirements. But large hard disks are now the cheapest part.

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Antwort von Modellbahner:

For cutting with AVCHD files, I would always beginners PowerDirector 7 Recommendation. Can sufficient speed synonymous frames before and back. Just testing.

Gruß Bernd

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Antwort von vaio:

Davidsch Hello!

"... It could be synonymous conclude that a high-SpielePC ideal for DV editing is appropriate, since this genus particularly good with PC hardware is (Top CPU, lots of RAM, fast HDD and large, very good graphics and sound card numerous unions )..."

If you have money for (unnecessary) hardware want to spend is surely a way. Conversely, there is then maybe you s.anderen (good) things ...
An important aspect is missing, incidentally s.der "list" above: The power supply. If, for gamers the "A and O, besides the graphics. The latter is of secondary importance for us (with a few exceptions). The former, on the other hand is very important - including the correct installation. In addition to secure stability in the PC life will you your USB - / and Firewire devices to thank.

"... I call for cut in the intermediate format. Convert to this format takes the worst as long as the duration of the film, even with new computers much less ... "

That I see, especially if your hardware requirements, as well.

My recommendation: d. In addition to editing software (eg, Edius Neo), 1x large (second) HDD, min. 2 GB Ram (2x1 GB modules with the same assembly - I write regarding the existing bars) and event. Power supply (?). This is less to the fat-watt to the manufacturer, but rather on the quality of the same, or the efficiency (like in music - W is not a measure but a unit and can virtually usdurch several variables extrapolated " be. basic formula: P = UxI).

"... Now we come back to the mainboard. I suspect that the technician is exchanged against a new COULD have, because it does not recognize Everest ... "

Info: The board manufacturer, or the board name is displayed on boot and then the manufacturer can be researched on the Internet. On the issue of hard drive: If possible, use a tool of the HDD manufacturer. The data should not be overestimated and need to do things they actually did not really, unless you have constant problems with the hard (34 degrees would be ok) ...

Greeting
Michael

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Antwort von davidsch:

Also many thanks to you for the detailed answers:). If a conversion into the intermediate format is very lossy? I mean, yes, I buy me an extra HD camera, a good quality to have ^ ^. It would annoy me if I am with the quality loss would be expected. Are there differences in quality of the software used?

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Antwort von domain:

In this you need have no concerns.
In NL professional editors will have long worked under this system, no preference whether in FC with ProRes422 in Edius with the HQ codec or Avid DNxHD with MC. The quality of waste for you will remain invisible.
Kannst du ja mal test myself in Photoshop. A gecropptes 1920 * 1080 Jpeg-Picture Digiknipse into a tiff format and then again this back in the Jpeg format and compare. This represents not 100% because the Intermediateverfahren lossless Tiff works, but at 99%.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"davidsch" wrote: (...) If a conversion into the intermediate format is very lossy? (...)

Hardly. One sees it not.

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