Frage von Tobi2222:
Hello together,
I would like when editing DV from PC to Final Cut and MAC change. Now I have long had no more MAC.
Therefore, I have a MAC store for advice. The new Mac Pro is synonymous for future HD editing to fit.
The Mac Store, it was then, it must be the latest greatest Mac Pro be anything else would not go. At least the 2x Quad 3.2 GHz, and in any case 32 GB RAM 2 a.m. to 4 p.m. 1TB hard disks, etc. All in all, more than 6000 euros (without Final Cut).
Clearly the more power the better. Nevertheless, it came to me as before, as though the more than s.seriöser advice s.Verkauf interested.
What a Mac Pro because it must at least be cut to HD yet be guaranteed. So much money I have left is not synonymous.
Must have 2 quad be? enough to hire a synonymous?
Should it be 32 GB Ram 16GB or were synonymous?
What should I consider?
Perhaps here so I can advise someone neutral.
Regards, Tobias.
Antwort von pailes:
What a nonsense. HD-cut, even with a small Macbook possible, it will always hold depends on how high you put your claims in relation to rendering times and real-time capabilities screws.
Antwort von Axel:
Probably depends on
1. ... what you think the "HD" understand.
2. ... which claims / tasks you have.
For HDV loose enough in any event, the smallest iMac (firewire MacBooks have no more!), Both in native (Apple-) synonymous in HDV as ProRes. Since AVCHD currently only available as Intermediate to edit it, which would be synonymous with a small device no problem.
For finishing with motion (easy), you should reconfigure the Mac with the 512er graphics card to buy or, better still prefer with Shake or After Effects to make your Postpro.
For HD you need to have another other question.
Antwort von Tobi2222:
Well, it should in future have the real HD 1920y1080 possible. Even if there is currently no demand for us there, you never know what is coming.
The cost due to consider stop me with a 2.8 quad begin with instead of two Quad.
And synonymous provisionally "only" with 8 or 16 GB of RAM ends meet. Upgrading can be so still.
Because with what little we have to make the 3D locker so rich. ne 512er GraKa would be a good one. Although I am a bit of PC know better. But that is certainly out.
Antwort von marsteini:
So let's face it, the offer because what you have is total nonsense! I currently operate with FinalCutStudio 2 on his MacMini with 2GB of RAM - is synonymous motion, it takes just a little.
Also HD-cut is easily possible on the mini ...
Although I have the latest Grakas in MacPros not in the head, but I nheme times s.with 512 requires the memory meant. To here a misconception to avoid: Some Grakas with 256MB can ultimately faster than with the 512, which you must be aware there is strong here on the accessibility to and GPU-Taktung/Leistung.
4GB I think you should be synonymous for the first range.
Nothing against you, but you remember you from the Windows world come here, mainly only to maximum power - when the Mac is soo not the case.
But geügend resources so haste to upgrade to each case is still free;) Tip: you build your own, it costs less than the originals-Apple parts and the MacPro is very good, fast and easy.
Regards
Antwort von Tobi2222:
I admit I am more in the PC world at home. My past experiences are still from the OS9 time. But that should change now so ;-))
Synonymous, I knew I did not have a Mac so I can assemble. I always thought you can only complete the purchase. Or my Zurüsten that you make yourself. That would certainly make sense.
And yes, with the Ram 512 requires the graphics card meant.
Antwort von Axel:
Well, it should in future have the real HD 1920y1080 possible. Even if there is currently no demand for us there, you never know what is coming. ... and probably not synonymous, then what should be für'n codec.
The cost due to consider stop me with a 2.8 quad begin with instead of two Quad.
And synonymous provisionally "only" with 8 or 16 GB of RAM ends meet. Upgrading can be so still. 4 GB (iMac) rich (probably two).
Because with what little we have to make the 3D locker so rich. ne 512er GraKa would be a good one. Although I am a bit of PC know better. But that is certainly out. The 512er motion would only be (and Color) really make sense otherwise for longer "compositions" (longer than 1 minute) with a graphics card 128er crash. Applies synonymous for color. The latter would be entirely sufficient for AAE. Today, I would rather get a bigger map (for iMac disadvantage in comparison to PC: Not later interchangeable!).
Antwort von Tobi2222:
Then you certainly still out with reasonably favorable.
... and probably not synonymous, then what should be für'n codec. Well, I know today is synonymous yet.
Antwort von Chezus:
Sure you want to equal the biggest Mac aufschwatzen, he wants to sell what synonymous ;-)
I was at that time (ie less than 2 years) pretty good advice. He did not say that I need 2GB of RAM, he has said that Final Cut with 2GB of RAM (and then the middle Mac Pro) really fun and so isses synonymous.
You can synonymous with little power to work, just slower, as is synonymous with Windows.
I got the MacPro is always in the office and at home did next worked on my MacBook (Intel graphics card, 2GB Ram, built in late 2006).
Hab with Final Cut and After Effects jobs settled. So practically out of the couch.
No matter which product you are from the series of current buy Macs, you can be with everyone in the basic HD cut!
Antwort von TiMovie:
if you want to buy a workstation is the model MacPro 2x 2.8 quad with 512er graphics card in my eyes is the best option - the fastest speed for different models is small but the huge price!
Ram memory, I would not buy apple covered with special retrofit itself - there are very good and cheap in the i-net!
if you do the same with photoshop and co work should already be s.die 6GB ram
with all (without monitor and FCS) you should be with 2500 to 3000, - live!
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
This was probably a typical seller counseling.
I do like marsteini:
Intel mini with 2GB and FinalCut Express.
It runs very well and above all stable.
A little more RAM would certainly be useful, but was not offered at that time and I will make the crate for no longer voluntarily.
There could then last for ever.
However I am not working under time pressure and must not be synonymous here a series of projects penetrate.
The bottom line a good and inexpensive nature, videos to edit.
Although my attitude to the other Mac as a universal computer is rather critical, as a working tool for this purpose, he has been vindicated.
Jens
Antwort von Tobi2222:
Well yes my assessment was quite correct.
Is it really any Mac Pro with enough memory to retrofit? or have a different number of RAM banks?
Although I probably would buy FinalCut Studio Express as.
Antwort von PowerMac:
8 GB of RAM should be, synonymous not cost so much. Some Mac Pro goes synonymous. Uncompressed HD is not s.den processor bound but s.die disk performance. So rather invest a RAID, because in fast processors. The graphics card should be a better half for Motion synonymous make.
Antwort von marsteini:
Is it really any Mac Pro with enough memory to retrofit? or have a different number of RAM banks?
Although I probably would buy FinalCut Studio Express as. Yes you can. If you do is for example 4GB and you take 4x! GB is installed, you can not stop so low as to retrofit would be if only 2x2GB.
The MacPro had, as far as I can remember s.mein placement, 8Speicherbänke free. Then everyone would have to place a module à 4GB fit to exploit the full 32 ...
Self-installation creates (nearly) every loan that is capable with Final Cut to work;)
Antwort von Tobi2222:
naja HBE pc when I have everything possible and expanded. as the retrofit of MACs with other RAMs not so difficult.
Hard disks can be synonymous as well as complying with the PC.
But there are relatively few graphics cards for MAC offers. Because you can - because the driver - later probably no other instructions?
Antwort von Chezus:
the retrofit could not be easier. Big flap on board out, Ram draufgesteckt bars, board inside and off you go.
For hard disks the same: drawer out, 4 screws placed drawer again.
In addition there are several videos on the net.
at dsp-cost 2GB memory latch nurnoch 50 euros. I got my first at 12 GB and upgraded the original 512 Riegel kicked out.
Was a matter of 5min
Antwort von rhubschmid:
Effects of the Mac Pro in early 2007, with 2x Dual Core 2.66. Disks configured as a JOB. 3 GB Ram
GForce 7300 graphics
Cut with Premiere CS 3rd
HDV with no problems. AVCHD can not judge
For HDV ranges from really my configuration, synonymous with my slow graphics card.
If you have the calculator with Raid configure, you have quick synonymous HD Power and that is the bottleneck, because uncompressed material needs in accordance with space and data rates, but we just synonymous with the hard drive would be. HDV, no problem How allg known at DV editing, you can not have enough space.
As for the RAM is concerned, the Mac Pro is the configuration as follows: 2 Raisercards benches with 4 each. So can total du 8 memory modules purely screws.
Google for the ideal times Ramkonfiguration because all 8 banks busy or just a card is slower than the RAM on two benches on both cards to distribute.
Say I would take NEN medium processor, the software must still synonymous first all cores can use. enough hard disk capacity, s.besten 4 pieces, which you then in Raid 0, 1 or 1 +0 can configure. in stripping speed, synonymous two plates meet, the more the faster, but more uncertain synonymous. 4 plates at 1 +0 would be safe and would have space.
Than 4GB Ram 4x1GB Raiser distributed on both would certainly be the cheapest and fastest. Alternatively 4x2 GB or 4x4 on the budget comes out s.auf 6 ram modules or 8 modules configuration, I would abstain, because it is not ideal, prefer larger blocks - and how gesgat not order from Apple costs too much.
graphics card if possible (I have no idea of the new) one, you're synonymous s.einen external reference monitor can connect my Geforce supports it, unfortunately, not the former Raedo 1900 already. nice feature but not absolutely necessary.
gruss Roger
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) Graphics card if possible (I have no idea of the new) one, you're synonymous s.einen external reference monitor can connect my Geforce supports it, unfortunately, not the former Raedo 1900 already. nice feature but not absolutely necessary. (...) No, no, no. On graphics cards includes no preview monitors.
But s.Video cards.
Antwort von marsteini:
(...) Graphics card if possible (I have no idea of the new) one, you're synonymous s.einen external reference monitor can connect my Geforce supports it, unfortunately, not the former Raedo 1900 already. nice feature but not absolutely necessary. (...)
No, no, no. On graphics cards includes no preview monitors.
But s.Video cards. Is this synonymous Video Cards for USB?
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) Graphics card if possible (I have no idea of the new) one, you're synonymous s.einen external reference monitor can connect my Geforce supports it, unfortunately, not the former Raedo 1900 already. nice feature but not absolutely necessary. (...)
No, no, no. On graphics cards includes no preview monitors.
But s.Video cards.
Is this synonymous Video Cards for USB? For Firewire! About Aja ioHD.
Antwort von Tobi2222:
For a Raid but I need a Mac Pro RAID card? which is quite expensive I have seen for 699 euros? Or you can synonymous another raid card take.
I would be interested in only a RAID0 due to the faster disk access for subsequent HD editing.
I only do backups on external disks except the house. What use to me a backup in the same computer if the house burns down or something.
Supports Final Cut Studio 2 Quad überhaupt? and how much RAM supporting it?
Regards
Tobi
Antwort von PowerMac:
You can do software RAID. You can all S-ATA and SAS disks using software RAID on a switch. Or you take the expensive Apple RAID card or a cheap of High Point, as the 2640X, which costs only 200 euros.
http://www.barefeats.com/hard104.html
http://www.barefeats.com/hard107.html
http://www.barefeats.com/hard109.html
Antwort von Tobi2222:
aha that is ever very good. But brings a RAID0 on the decisive advantage for HD editing?
The hard disks are already pretty fast.
Antwort von TiMovie:
FCS supports the 8 cores - you have to remember that you may be synonymous with motion work (need quick GraKa ne) and even in parallel with compressor exportierst and prepare graphics with photoshop and and and (the demands are constantly rising)
the standard quick-rich hard disk for hd cut off - but should be several filters and co to come, you need high-performance processor and a good graka - brings you as synonymous RAID0 nix!
much memory is in the cut but not absolutely necessary for additional graphics work, you should have 6GB or more clean cut!
with 10.5 leopard is the utilization of multi-cores still unbefridigend,
rumored to be the 10.6 is the 8 cores (or more quickly) are better able to manage - so the 8core fairly future-proof and should have a show next year happy!
an iMac or MacBook Pro is quite net - but if you n few hundred Euros a Mac pro 2.8 Okta would definitely get the safe and sustainable alternative - and an HD monitor will cost no more synonymous Now the world
Antwort von Tobi2222:
where do you get for a Mac pro 2.8 Okta her?
Antwort von Chezus:
na at Apple.
Standard Configuration: 2x Intel Quad Xeon (ie Okta ...)
http://store.apple.com/de_smb_67863/configure/MA970D/A?mco=NzU0NjAz
Antwort von Tobi2222:
Ach so. Sorry all clear, which I had previously probably misunderstood.
