Frage von Manuell:
Hello,
it actually brings a qualitative advantage if I for example, a concert in HDV movies and then burn to DVD, or is it just as if I am with a DV camcorder?
But I can always just a Resolutionvon 720x576 burn to DVD, right?
So the question is it takes me an advantage in HDV to rotate when the final product is a DVD?
Sure, I voted for the future of the HDV material and can then, if Blu-ray blanks are cheaper, my Project in higher resolution burn.
I consider myself to that summer SonyHVR-Z7 to buy, but since the end products mostly on the DVD, I can probably still a little longer synonymous with my Canon XL2 stay, or would the picture of the finished product Sonysynonymous high quality DVD?
mfg
Manuel
Antwort von Mylenium:
Hello,
it actually brings a qualitative advantage if I for example, a concert in HDV movies and then burn to DVD, or is it just as if I am with a DV camcorder? HDV uses the same compression methods, such as DV and so is the (perceived) quality advantage to zero. Furthermore, HDV cameras Lowlight a worse behavior because of the slightly larger CCD, therefore, would be of the concerts in the dark again 'n grouper worse. If anything, then you should for something a CameraLink buy the signal directly via iLink / Firewire and can output to hard drive recording. This will save at least the Compression.
Mylenium
Antwort von Manuell:
Thanks for the reply.
That means I can think of the HD and HDV development is still at leisure until the ordinary consumer with a Full HD / HD Ready LCD or Plasma Television plus Blu-RayPlayer owns.
NFG
Manuel
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
Hello,
it actually brings a qualitative advantage if I for example, a concert in HDV movies and then burn to DVD, or is it just as if I am with a DV camcorder?
HDV uses the same compression methods, such as DV and so is the (perceived) quality advantage to zero. Furthermore, HDV cameras Lowlight a worse behavior because of the slightly larger CCD, therefore, would be of the concerts in the dark again 'n grouper worse. If anything, then you should for something a CameraLink buy the signal directly via iLink / Firewire and can output to hard drive recording. This will save at least the Compression.
Mylenium So much humbug rarely read in an article ... Except for the fact that most HD cameras are really lichtschwächer than Lowlight Kings from the SD area really wrong here, absolutely nothing.
Antwort von Mylenium:
Thanks for the reply.
That means I can think of the HD and HDV development is still at leisure until the ordinary consumer with a Full HD / HD Ready LCD or Plasma Television plus Blu-RayPlayer owns.
NFG
Manuel This is probably entirely on your target group, I would say, O) However, one should imagine there nix - HD-enabled cameras are less compressed or uncompressed work are synonymous in 2 or 3 years expensive. Everything else such as XDCAM, HDV, AVCHD or even a compromise is imemr stay.
Mylenium
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
Thou art but a troll right?
Antwort von Axel:
Restriction to what Mylenium has written: If the HD Cams and SD of the optical equipment and other forth in a price class (!), But the computer would have no genuine 16:9, comparisons are not possible. And, no preference whether a DVD or Blu-ray, 16:9 is the standard.
So do not worry: The XL2 good as widescreen Cam.
For the most part, almost exclusively, it is still passed as a DVD. Is it once a popular storage media for HD, the weaknesses of today's HDVs quickly come to light, through the possibility to compare.
Until then it is a worse HDV Cam better DV Cam. My beloved VX 2000, I, after we tried to take pictures with the FX-1 for a DVD mix. And these were only the Camera downkonvertiert to a SD interface possible. With HDV> Pal Mpeg2 for DVD is the best quality (except for the tap on as uncompressed component, but are we really in the Comparison involve?). The supposed advantage of DV, intraframekomprimiert to be coming in everyday, unfortunately, nowhere to bear.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
@ Mylenium why you write such a humbug as:
If anything, then you should for something a CameraLink buy the signal directly via iLink / Firewire and can output to hard drive recording. This will save at least the Compression.
That is simply not true!
Antwort von Mylenium:
... Marine noise ... But boy, nu mach but here no barrel at times. If what you have substantial to say, then just write it on my Korrigier and admittedly grossly simplified representation, instead of the stupid people here on the Page vollzulabern and to insult. With everything else you qualifizierst himself as nothing more than a troll (or in German: Klugscheißer).
I am here to start discussions on changes Quantisierungsmatritzen, data rates, chroma sampling, MPEG Extensions and death and hell to establish the Saturday, I just do not buck. This would be synonymous with colleagues even more confusing, would be counter-productive.
If I have to obsessively discuss wöllte, I knew at least twenty people up there before you. So I do not go auf'n Biscuit and mach dein Ding
And elsewhere it is certainly much a matter of taste - now there's a lot more bad than good HD SD.
PS: If one of the "cite" function has no plan, it's perhaps synonymous omit ....
Mylenium
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... HDV uses the same compression methods, such as DV ... Moreover HDV cameras have a worse Lowlight behavior due to the slightly larger CCD ... then you should for something a CameraLink buy the signal directly via iLink / Firewire and can output to hard drive recording. This will save at least the compression ... You have my greatest respect for your expertise AE, but sorry: In the above sentences do not actually true.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von PowerMac:
... HDV uses the same compression methods, such as DV ... Moreover HDV cameras have a worse Lowlight behavior due to the slightly larger CCD ... then you should for something a CameraLink buy the signal directly via iLink / Firewire and can output to hard drive recording. This will save at least the compression ...
You have my greatest respect for your expertise AE, but sorry: In the above sentences do not actually true.
Gruß Bernd E. Not only in fact, it's true nothing.
Antwort von hauhar:
You make me stupid idiocy s.weil you've written?
If None is more to the truth in contributions, we can take care forums for discussion and information platform safely s.den hat stuck. This would make sense then.
Again I am received s.diesem was part of your contribution:
"Everything else, such as XDCAM, HDV, AVCHD or even a compromise imemr will remain."
The above formats are all a compromise with quality and have nothing in common output formats. So if you write nonsense, please come synonymous so clear when you zurechtweist rather then someone aufzubegehren.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
Again out ...
Antwort von Quadruplex:
The number for ...
HDV uses the same compression methods such as IR No.. HDV: MPEG-2 IBP-Frame, DV: I-frame DCT. In German: HDV is more data is reduced, the one frame accurate editing is not readily available (but with current editing software feasible, it may need a few frames until the next I-frame to be recalculated, including the picture quality suffers slightly s.diesen Interfaces).
and so is the (perceived) quality advantage to zero. HDV is 1440 x 1080i to DV 720 x 576i. HDV is therefore by definition a higher sharpness. Possible that the actual picture quality of a camcorder not only by the standard host, but synonymous with Optics and chip (s) shall apply to both formats (and synonymous for all others). The motion resolution is worse than HDV in DV.
Furthermore, HDV cameras Lowlight a worse behavior because of the slightly larger CCD, The observation may be true, but the statement is false. When the chips are larger, they would have to be photosensitive (at otherwise identical conditions).
If anything, then you should for something a CameraLink buy the signal directly via iLink / Firewire and can output to hard drive recording. And what would be given to DV or HDV differently? Nix.
This will save at least the Compression. No - at least for hobbyists affordable HDV camcorders or DV comes out, that is data-reduced stuff. I knew the Fast synonymous no professional mill, which by Firewire uncompressed herausgäbe anything - at least standard Firewire (400 Mbps) would be synonymous with uncompressed HD simply overwhelmed.
And for the second time I am with the force of an apple user opinion: The contribution of Mylenium true nix ...
Antwort von Quadruplex:
I consider myself to that summer SonyHVR-Z7 to buy, but since the end products mostly on the DVD, I can probably still a little longer synonymous with my Canon XL2 stay, or would the picture of the finished product Sonysynonymous high quality DVD? I can own with no experience to serve - but the better the raw material, the better the final product. Without going here a new barrel to try to undo and with the knowledge that the comparison limps a little, it is synonymous s.der greater sharpness of the original movies on DVD that looks as crispy PAL camcorder videos.
The other aspect is security for the future: With the expected conclusion of the dispute to Blu-ray and HD-DVD is an affordable HD-Verteilmedium grasp the current flat TVs are also HD-ready. If you look at the present time an HD camcorder afford it, do it - even if you for one, two years or the final product to PAL DVD guckst. Keep the originals on the stuff and edit content in the near future again for 'ne Blu-ray disc.
Antwort von robbie:
Everything else such as XDCAM, HDV, AVCHD or even a compromise is imemr stay.
Say, you know you somehow from cameras> 1000 ¬?
XDCAMHD works with 35MBits firstly, and secondly with a completely different codec than HDV, and * would * 50Mbit HDV correspond. And now think next time s.XDCAM HD422? ring slowly?
Antwort von Mylenium:
You make me stupid idiocy s.weil you've written? Heyhey, good times auf'm carpet remain ... The T-word, you have first used the latest and s.dem point is your credibility into thin air ...
If None is more to the truth in contributions, we can take care forums for discussion and information platform safely s.den hat stuck. This would make sense then. Oh for heaven's sake, is what you still ridiculous Ein? Veracity in public forums, yet to what, where everyone can post anonymously? Da komm ich ja laughter not to sleep ... There's something for moderated chats or private forums.
Na is only girls. Geilt synonymous nice talking to you and the hot heads. I must not do this shit and am then changing times.
So long
Mylenium
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Manual
I do not want s.der discussion but HD to SD is actually better!
It starts with the optics on. In the area of 0-33 lp / mm HD lenses have a much more linear course and then use the Focus range around 5 MHz (SD) significantly better. Furthermore, the contrast is much better impression.
With respect to the data using both HDV DV as a synonymous DCT and are fairly identical, if not Echtzeitanfporderungen exist. Only AVC uses a DWT and thus a better matrix. With the amount of compression is not necessarily a quality first approach to do so. Also in similar compression depths with no bandwidth.
The light sensitivity is, as already mentioned, entirely compensated. (Up to a few delicate exotics)
I could list now continue, but I think that even a part of the argument should be rich.
Quadruplex As said before, synonymous with optical impression is visible. It is not just a marginal improvement, but clearly visible properties.
So, my recommendation: if you have the choice, you will with HD to SD is always the better results. (correct change required)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Truth ... Because I come not with laughter in the bedroom ... A pity that you have with such a mindset as a serious discussion partner disqualifizierst. What should one of your contributions as yet, if you is no preference as to whether what you write is true or just complete bullshit? As I said, pity.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Manuell:
Hello Wolfgang,
thank you for your answer, I just wanted to ask you whether the book is good because synonymous and because I notice the yes of you is :-). Sounds as if it I can find some answers.
Very good.
Well I am waiting times as the new SonyHVR-Z7 to the Canon XH A1 and then performs schaun times.
HDV me to tears at the moment, the good quality at virtually the same workflow of DV.
Perhaps Canon will indeed synonymous nor what new this year, because I Sonyempfinde for about 6000 euro a bit too expensive, because you get almost 2 Canon XH A1 for.
mfg
Manuel
Antwort von Mylenium:
... Truth ... Because I come not with laughter in the bedroom ...
A pity that you have with such a mindset as a serious discussion partner disqualifizierst. What should one of your contributions as yet, if you is no preference as to whether what you write is true or just complete bullshit? As I said, pity.
Gruß Bernd E. Yes do it. It forces you None, my "humbug" to read. Then you but synonymous man enough, next time you simply reinzugrinsen and keep the muzzle. Everything else destroy your own credibility as. With all the love, because who is going after a loose thread niveau never a word you think of?
I mean, what's the point? Should I be upset every time, if you only complete Blödfug on AE because it's told just once a year and used everything else with the Avid Title tool does?
Sure, I tell a lot of shit when the day is long and is sometimes also full, but I seriously doubt that any of you drafted Post your own claims are met. I'm sure if I'll post your listings through, I find much of what it probably would have rather not say ... That's life. One can not know everything and do not come with any clear.
So, nu, but is really good. It's Weekend. Time to party, celebrate and have sex ....
Mylenium
Antwort von Jan:
Once again the question, on a DVD, I can pretty much burn everything, the only question is what the player & recorder can read. And that is usually 720x576 PAL MPEG 2, depending on the device synonymous nor other things, like Divx. Some Xoro Kiss devices and a 1080i MPEG 2 transport stream can be read as excluding times.
Video Active times but had a test down with HDV material calculated to, unfortunately it came out, the material (SonyFX 7) was worse than the original material of the 576i PAL camera, but that is really the exception.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Quadruplex:
I mean, what's the point? The point is: If you're not sure you should see the least honest about it. And if you do not know, maybe just the pen of the keyboard can.
I'm sure if I'll post your listings through, I find much of what it probably would have rather not say ... I can only speak for myself, but: You wrong yourself.
and have sex .... Do so now both hands free ...
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Video Active times but had a test down with HDV material calculated to Do you by chance, which the down is expected to have? So with what software? Or was it simply the output from the DV camcorder?
Antwort von Mylenium:
The point is: If you're not sure you should see the least honest about it. And if you do not know, maybe just the pen of the keyboard can. Well, and the same is true when one has known nothing next, as personal hostility, gelle? ;-) You take everything too seriously and that is why I find you extremely uncool ...
Mylenium
Antwort von Markus:
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Antwort von hauhar:
@ Manual
I'm quite sure you will find many answers in the Book.
@ Jan
How Quadruplex in its question has giving you leave .... there are a bunch of tools that are pretty bad and make calculations can you do a lot zurechtschustern.
The best experience I have, however, still with hardware ...
Antwort von WoWu:
...... aaaachhh always this login ....
Antwort von Jan:
The magazine edition is a bit older. There were pictures in VAD test set of purely FX 7 downkonvertiert and SD Recording directly. I did not even know what the exact career was and what tools were used.
In the same issue was but a Downkonvert an FX 1 better off than an SD recording.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Axel:
In the same issue was but a Downkonvert an FX 1 better off than an SD recording. At Canon, the less good to see
this on the HV20 and the internal thread linked on the A1.
Antwort von PowerMac:
... Truth ... Because I come not with laughter in the bedroom ...
A pity that you have with such a mindset as a serious discussion partner disqualifizierst. What should one of your contributions as yet, if you is no preference as to whether what you write is true or just complete bullshit? As I said, pity.
Gruß Bernd E.
Yes do it. It forces you None, my "humbug" to read. Then you but synonymous man enough, next time you simply reinzugrinsen and keep the muzzle. Everything else destroy your own credibility as. With all the love, because who is going after a loose thread niveau never a word you think of?
I mean, what's the point? Should I be upset every time, if you only complete Blödfug on AE because it's told just once a year and used everything else with the Avid Title tool does?
Sure, I tell a lot of shit when the day is long and is sometimes also full, but I seriously doubt that any of you drafted Post your own claims are met. I'm sure if I'll post your listings through, I find much of what it probably would have rather not say ... That's life. One can not know everything and do not come with any clear.
So, nu, but is really good. It's Weekend. Time to party, celebrate and have sex ....
Mylenium Welcome to my personal list of simpletons and mentally. You make a huge shit, in which even the roundworms are wrong and you beschwerst when you indicate it? Get a life man! You Behave yourself like a child angepisstes.
Antwort von j.t.jefferson:
Welcome to my personal list of simpletons and mentally. Likewise. Nice to make your acquaintances.
Mylenium
Antwort von Uwe:
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Welcome to my personal list of simpletons and mentally. You make a huge shit, in which even the roundworms are wrong and you beschwerst when you indicate it? Get a life man! You Behave yourself like a child angepisstes. I would now but under the heading "Join In" verbuchen. Little evidence of style + format. Can I make you aware of it, how much "bullshit" you in the course of time here with the readers scattered searched .... ;)
To err is human. Please do not forget .....
Antwort von j.t.jefferson:
As long as you einsieht the garbage you wrote and no other attacks because they have pointed out is bullshit write in order ...
The behavior of Muli I find derbst daneben!
