Frage von strohy:
Even the cheap Pinnacle Studio detects scenes. So why not the sünfhaft expensive Adobe Premiere.
How can I divide my scenes. 4 hours without a separate video clips cut is virtually impossible.
HDV Split works with my XH-A1 and not the trial of Aspect HD is expired (so hats super works) - and so much money just so that I ne scene detection, I am not willing to spend.
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Antwort von wolfgang:
Well, this is a topic that currently many users of AP element is likely to have - because of this scene just not an automatic separation of HDV material support. And, unfortunately, is not synonymous HDVSplit extent, the Canon camcorder to support it.
A similar discussion is taking place right now right here:
http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=3372
There is a tool of Peter / elcutty, HDscn2EDL, which is basically the scene synonymous makes separation by EDL lists outputs, which are then cut programs impotieren can. Vegas 7 For we have already a very good ongoing solution. Basically, Peter is offered in the video meeting, this tool is synonymous s.AP element adapt - but this will require someone of times such an EDL file from AP element provides.
Peter had asked:
http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?postid=54864 # post54864
Maybe so you can sort available?
Antwort von BjörnF:
HDVSplit nonetheless supports the separation of existing files. So you have the opportunity to premiere with the tapes as a whole to capture and then the files to be in separate scenes.
Premiere Pro 2 processed HDV content in the data stream content as it is on the tape, and this probably caused the problems, because somehow the scene detection to make. Premiere 1.5.1 was the scene separation synonymous with HDV, but over a Intermediate Codec, the halt synonymous Aspect used.
Björn
Antwort von almatic:
a simple question and a meaningless Antwort.Hier will Appro asked the respondents about labert elements. A transparent attempt to separate the forum again 3x in the same thread to accommodate
disgusting
Antwort von strohy:
thank you - I werds times with HDV split are trying ...
A pity, with hats super Aspect HDV works - but it is simply too expensive. : (
Antwort von BjörnF:
I do not know what the newer version of Aspect-doing, but in Release 1.5.1 was a lightweight plug-in aspect of it and that has transformed the material first and the bloated file size. They are holding the two alternatives in HDV --
Release 1.5.1 - Intermediate conversion to a format - making the files a lot bigger, but not so high s.die processor performance
Premiere 2 - native editing of HDV stream - File size is identical with DV - s.Prozessorleistung high demand, because in the background constantly be the GOP aufgedröselt
Björn
Antwort von wolfgang:
Again, unfortunately, likely HDVsplit with the A1 as synonymous with other Canon models still do not work, such as Russel times, during its tests reported here.
http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?postid=50707 # post50707
Whether and when an update of HDVSplit given, I do not know.
If the Cineform codec still work, then one could, alternatively, in larger pieces capture, these convert to Cineform Intermediate, and an (optical) separation scene with AV Cutty make.
Is that no longer synonymous, because the trial has expired, you can only hope that Adobe finally times an automatic scene separation of its software for HDV bat. But what is realistic or not more likely to happen quickly.
Antwort von strohy:
somehow I'm still so loop.
HDVSplit do not want to
AV Cutty is not
Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 I have not
with Adobe Premiere Pro 2 does not go
Cineform and test time abelaufen is $ 500 and I will certainly not enough to capture my movies to be able to. If I've already Premiere!
Gibts denn sowas wie Aspect HD is not freeware? (as it is in Premiere Pro 1.5 was?
Antwort von strohy1:
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Antwort von Axel:
Are you very much raw material? I briefly sinking, as I do it (without Automatic scene separation): I-run material when capturing and am time code notes. Then I scratch through, set s.den registered bodies - and Outpunkte and create Subclips, which I immediately synonymous rename appropriately. Overhead per tape: 10-15 minutes --
and I have sorted the material better (and better in the head) than with automatic scene segregation.
Antwort von PowerMac:
What is that, "Scene detection"? Each time when the recordings were aborted, will be capturing a new clip from? What's the point? At the tape does work but really only the live recording or a lot of time Batchcapturen sense (TCs log and then capture in one go)?
Antwort von usul:
... or when a lot of time Batchcapturen sense (TCs log and then capture in one go)? Why should I log time code only if the software itself can be?
Antwort von Axel:
Why should I log time code only if the software itself can be? Because the only grading, the software would offer me, in chronological order and only one would be me until then meaningless as time code and a designation provides neither useful mini pictures. The program now dominates
the good times not
to potty, the wicked into Kröpfchen. On the other hand, I start with capturing during the sifting and sorting, the subsequent breakdown in Subclips is the rough, just use the clips appear in the Project window. I could then, in extreme cases all Subclips Select and with one go into the timeline draw in less than double real-time the raw material. Since I rarely cut their own recordings, I see me in reality, everything in a few. So much the better, that I have the choice of clips previously had severely limited.
The Batchloggen mean stress for the Camera and also needs a lot of time, it would only make sense if one has too little space.
Antwort von usul:
Well, I prefer to do everything first stop on the computer and this is the material there. Since I do not on the tape out and herspulen.
Nobody has claimed that all the clips you use must be synonymous.
Antwort von Axel:
Well, I prefer to do everything first stop on the computer and this is the material there. Since I do not on the tape out and herspulen.
Nobody has claimed that all the clips you use must be synonymous. You've misunderstood me. I do not synonymous coil.
1. The full tape capture, while coarse sift through (I know, the presentation is for a definitive assessment of non-optimal). Camera pack.
2. The large clip by moving the heads play through it and cut up into sub-clips and meaningful name.
Antwort von Gummi:
What is that, "Scene detection"? Each time when the recordings were aborted, will be capturing a new clip from? What's the point? At the tape does work but really only the live recording or a lot of time Batchcapturen sense (TCs log and then capture in one go)? Only not all work as you sow - and so takes the already at capturing a organisable form, can be an enormous advantage in their workflow.
Antwort von Axel:
Only not all work as you sow - and so takes the already at capturing a organisable form, can be an enormous advantage in their workflow. Very
convenient for people, perhaps. But firstly, automatic scrambling any
arbitrarily organized (and thus only partly), and secondly, you win with this method, no time, on the contrary. What are you doing at 200 numbered clips in the Project Window, of which 50 (and synonymous only partly) be used? Naming you not to? Trims you not? How much time goes on it in retrospect?
Antwort von cstuder:
One sighting included rename and sort is umungänglich. But thanks to the Scene detection is at least the step with the play heads have done. This happens precisely to yes then averaged.
And what is wrong is something to be convenient if the result is the same then?
Antwort von grovel:
The Batchloggen mean stress for the Camera and also needs a lot of time, it would only make sense if one has too little space. This is already the most sensible enough. In a typical project for me is about 10 tapes, which müllt me pretty hard too. If I do not usable Takes, test shots, etc away, then halved the material usually. And no, simply place the new hard drive to buy is not an alternative for all, Scene detection, however, already.
SeeYa Groveler
Antwort von Gummi:
And no, simply place the new hard drive to buy is not an alternative for all, Scene detection, however, already. The misunderstanding is probably on my Page. The extent to which helps in saving scene detection of hard disk space (workflow please explain)?
I just wanted to explain that without this option is not equal aufgeschmissen, nothing more ;-)
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hi,
probably cut the scene detection, which he says that the AVI into separate clips. Since it is of course excellent delete. However ... why? Really hard today cost no more significant amounts, the method described initially cost twice as much space as the original AVI still exists.
Because I like the scene detection, which not only breaks down a kind of index file is created, a lot better.
BG
Andreas
Antwort von wolfgang:
Only not all work as you sow - and so takes the already at capturing a organisable form, can be an enormous advantage in their workflow.
Very convenient for people, perhaps. But firstly, automatic scrambling any arbitrarily organized (and thus only partly), and secondly, you win with this method, no time, on the contrary. What are you doing at 200 numbered clips in the Project Window, of which 50 (and synonymous only partly) be used? Naming you not to? Trims you not? How much time goes on it in retrospect? It will only see that the matter before so synonymous filming. The cutting is done at least according to my understanding, absolutely not arbitrary, why do you think that this is so, Axel? For me, the decomposition takes after filmed.
And it is incredibly handy when everyone Take then a clip (or rather a Subclip me) is. So I'm doing something with 200 numbered clips in the Project Media window of my NLE - I View, etc. I grouped them and trim them shorter but more immediately in the timeline, and then cut my video. Goes perfectly.
I rename the clips the way, normally not to - if anything, is perhaps next to the appropriate clip a comment - but this time I synonymous rare. Where I currently in my Project sowas tend to have 340 clips. For even larger projects, rather the structure of the bin-NLE to use - to make things manageable to make.
We are talking here, however, synonymous always strong on personal preferences, and are not the same for everyone. Should it make any halt, as he likes.
The advantage with respect to the disk space is more likely is that clips that are not needed, even after a first tentative of the plate immediately clear, if you want. And I get this argument does not apply to the essential, which is required for an automatic scene speaks separation - are added. A degree of difference makes it perhaps even whether the HDV editing on intermediates such as the Canopus HQ or the Cineform codec is working or not, in most cases yes but 3 to 4x as large as the native m2t material. Personally I do sowas unchanged by a rather clever Raid system with the appropriate size - of hard disk space costs so little yet what, I agree Andreas quite right.
