Frage von Andreas S.:
Hello,
I have had for 5 weeks, a new CANON HF20. The first scenes of the holidays were over HDMI for full HD plasma 42PZ85E of Panasonic. These plasma displays, however briefly, the input signal is 1080i! When playing a BluRay he shows an input signal of 1080p.
Now my question: Is something wrong with my Camera? Actually, the artwork in full, should - and not just half-frames are transmitted to the plasma. Replacing the HDMI cable did not work. Via USB to PC Calculator queried properties shows the Calculator 1920x1080i? I have written support already s.den CANON - has unfortunately unable to give any explanation. Maybe they know something about someone on this platform.
Andreas
Antwort von Jan:
Hi Andy,
na should actually be transferred via HDMI 1080 P ".
I think (; thoughtful at that time) in a test with an HF 100 and the HDMI cable show of the HD Television and Sony Pansonic (; in the 3-4 units) 1080 P already, as I recall.
Canon, Panasonic and Sony not express themselves properly to even JVC has a 1080 P directly Augabe. Although they say that P is transferred via HDMI signals. You may convert to the HD TV in P (; as well) for me.
'm Not quite sure WoWu - or other users - would be possible because most specialists.
Although there are already different HDMI cable, only 1.3 zb s.Typ transmits the XV color space, but it has to do with your question nothing.
VG
January
Antwort von deti:
The camera always draws on in 50i, synonymous was chosen when the 25p mode. In the latter case, an entire frame in two consecutive fields is encoded.
It is useful if the display device itself provides deinterlacing, as this is usually achieved the best possible image quality.
So everything is fine and there is no reason for complaint.
Deti
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Andreas
HDMI distinguish between the primary and the formats Secundary formats.
The primarys
need (of the hardware; TV) are supported, the Secundary format
can be supported.
Now 1080i25 is a primary format, whereas the one Secundary 1080p25 format if your television is not supported (, because do not have to).
If the camera really makes a P format s.den output and not, as DETI said that such a format will not be interpolated first.
The 1080p24 (; which is used on most commercial DVDs), while synonymous Secundary one format, but can not afford Manufacturer, not to endorse it.
Can thus be synonymous, the fact that it is that you are indeed of the DVD (; can see 24p), of the camera but not 25p.
Schau doch mal in the tech. Spec. the TV device, whether it really supports 1080/25p via HDMI.
If, as I said, the camera issues 1080/25p really ....
Antwort von deti:
With these cameras, my knowledge there are only 2 modes via HDMI:
576i (or, if the device via the EDID is not 1080i) or even 1080i. The recording format is irrelevant.
Deti
Antwort von WoWu:
That can be good, then I would be synonymous angry at Canon, the praise indeed its 25p mode, so high .... today we can not look closely enough ...
Greeting to Austria.
Antwort von Andreas S.:
Dear Jan, Wolfgang & Deti,
Thank you for your professional-quality answers! I have written to the First time in such a forum and am surprised by the quality of answers. This morning I have received from CANON repair service is also an answer to my problem, which coincides largely with your answers and the whole.
"I have a Canon HF20 sent in for repairs meanwhile repaired in order to show me your problem and then look for a solution. Lo and behold, this camera is made synonymous ONLY in 1080/50i mode s.den attached monitor, if the synonymous toggle recording on the menu was 25P. A glance at the technical data (; S.188 in the detailed instruction manual, supplied on CD) then let know the following:
TV standard: 1080/50i *
With the frame rate PF25 created will be converted and recorded in memory as 50i.
Here's another explanation of CANON in the context of frame rate for video recording and output format of the television signal: the PF25 mode allows a progressive readout of CMOS sensors in 25fps, result as a video, which has a greater similarity with records in film. This is possible because the CMOS sensor can output interlaced and progessive data as needed.
Note: The PF25 video is recorded in 1080/50i format to ensure compatibility with existing Wiedergabe-/Ausgabegeräten too. Nevertheless, the end result is a true 25fps progressive lap recording. He is not quite equate with 25P, therefore, the
Of Selected Bezeichung CANON PF25.
Thus, the playback device synonymous 1080i show.
Suffer Canon's PF25, unlike many other manufacturers, no loss of resolution in the horiz. Resolution.
The HF20 gives the signal ONLY in 50i. There is nothing broken or set wrong. "
Should I once again have a technical problem, I will turn to in each case again s.dieses forum! For now, go to Edit's and writing to BluRay. What is the currently best software, etc.
So thank you very much!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
What is the currently best software, etc.
Which level have s.Vorkenntnissen You?
How expensive can it be `?
What's the Hauptkriterieum be what the software can be?
burning
XPBurn and coding for small things
SUPER MfG
B. DeKid
PS: PC or Mac?
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
That can be good, then I would be synonymous angry at Canon, the praise indeed its 25p mode, so high .... today we can not look closely enough ... I think the 25P mode, can not, as you are stating 25p mode, fine as it is compatible with the 1080i specification and not just said in the note fields and includes with every NLE in the 1080i project settings will be cut. Do not forget, here is a consumer product!
When you know what that is possible, it makes a very happy and told me here no cheese on stuttering during pans or object motion in front of the camera. Who's idea is to produce such a stuttering ever since he switched from the recording head!
Antwort von Andreas S.:
Hello DeKid example,
For about 7 years, I create (home movies, holidays, club, wedding, etc.) (in quite an orderly level; DVD). I worked here only with Ulead VideoStudio (; 7 to now 12). With this editing software I have very good experience (; stable, user-jerk).
The price of a new software that handles HD material, and can output to Blu-ray or DVD should be secondary.
For processing, I have gained myself a new calculator. (; SonyVaio VGN-FW21M-P8600 with Vista).
Many greetings!
Andreas
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Bruno
I think the 25P mode, not like you are stating 25p mode Bruno, accurate readers helping ... top of the thread was only 25p of the speech.
Because it would certainly have been more helpful if, if you had corrected, and the matter would have shown that it is just not even dealing with 25P and 25p, instead of here, now that Canon has made the singing Verbesserungsarie too.
If you're happy ... but in order Congratulations.
Nicer it would have been if it had been a question not a "house brand", but a standardized signal, for 25p, there are synonymous in the "original edition", which are then outputted frames must be segmented not over .... where is the PF of Canon nor even a real PsF, but once again (a change, experiences interpolation). A true 25p would have been better than with distance.
But it's always nice to see that there are synonymous users who are fully satisfied with synonymous if there is no "real" is synonymous only 25p, or almost 25 PsF ...
Let's see how long this Canon probprietären format still holds up ...
I think the 25P mode, ... fine because it is compatible with the 1080i specification is ... What if you please it will be "fine"?
Disadvantage of such formats is that they do not have all the advantages of a real p format, because the interlace "packing" is always addressed to the de Interleaser the decoder and on the qualities we need here in the consumer area, no longer discuss ... but when it reaches you, great!
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Since "deteriorated the" absolutely non-visible!
Antwort von WoWu:
Well, Bruno, however, since the emphasis is certainly on the "seen today" and that's always a question of reproduction in any shape.
But if you the worthiness Comparison to 1080i, then you may be right, of course, because the format, although the de-Interleaser but at least through the time shift is no longer there ... the heist, but only that 1080i is even worse ... Comparison with the 25p one considers the format but not really happen, especially since it is synonymous still far away of any 1080p resolution, but is only upscaled ...
