Frage von rosenbaum:
Hi,
here after I have not read quite a busy and Ratschäge search, and now my first contribution.
I will this year OPA, is no longer the youngest. For now our grandson grow up, we wanted to be recorded to match the HD Television pick a cam,
my choice much at the Canon HV 20, because I very much value put on image quality. I bought now Previous week this camera and after the first sample videos, the Ernüchterrung. The picture was great but the sound was a disaster, I thought I've filmed next to a drill. Of course I knew the sounds, but something?.
Camera went back again today.
Now I would go in MM viewed the HC7, which has made the housing quality of a better impression. Now my question
Picture is similar and there are synonymous, this deafening noise, or is in the Sonydezenter.
Gruss Jürgen
Antwort von Maria Perez:
the real question, I can not answer but if the sound is not good, you can always have an external micro to buy
Antwort von Maria Perez:
http://www.thomann.de/at/rode_videomic.htm
or something cheaper, but bigger and without a camera mount
http://www.thomann.de/at/the_tbone_em_9600.htm
Antwort von rosenbaum:
Yes, one could ensure that, but I would not necessarily.
I know the Schlepperei of my photo tours with the DSLR, my main hobby.
The video camera should be for the woman and thus has not so much s.Hut.
Gruss Jürgen
Antwort von ralleschaffrath:
I do not know how it stands with the HC7, but my HC1 has an excellent sound.
Antwort von rosenbaum:
Can anyone else what the image quality of the Sonyim Comparison AGM 20 say?
Gruss Jürgen
Antwort von Duisburger:
Hello, here you can compare the two models:
Antwort von ruessel:
Both cameras are excellent in the Picture, with the HC7 in Lowlight makes something rather limp, but not quite as loud noises from the engine records.
Antwort von Simon2k7:
my choice much at the Canon HV 20, because I very much value put on image quality. I bought now Previous week this camera and after the first sample videos, the Ernüchterrung. The picture was great but the sound was a disaster, I thought I've filmed next to a drill. Of course I knew the sounds, but something?. The Canon HG10 has a similar picture as the HV20. Since it records to hard drive, eliminates the noise of the tape drive. The sound of the built-in microphone is therefore Comparison to cameras with tape drive much more smoothly. There is no noise here, it is not synonymous, because in the intervals hard drives are heard. Even less noise has a camera that records to memory card. There is, for my taste but still not attractive.
Antwort von ruessel:
The are just pure amateur cameras .... if synonymous actually very good .... I'm still of some scene of the HV20 very positively surprised. Picture this much for so little money there was never (my personal opinion). Before here, but misconceptions are awakened in the right areas is only LowLight Euro s.3000 something really possible.
Antwort von rosenbaum:
Hi,
I have now ordered the sony HC7, I hope I do not regret the purchase.
Gruss Jürgen
Antwort von Lestat:
arrived? Regret?
Synonymous Stand in front of this issue - either or ...
because rather have a specific question - HDV is not FULL HD - by contrast with the AVCHD cameras ... one sees this "loss" s.Pixeln? So on a FULL-HD LCD mind
Antwort von schafred:
The AVCHD Cams internal work with a much lower resolution. The then with 1920 pixels Width save is pure marketing. You see the only difference being that the picture of the AVCHD Cam is worse, because the compression is stronger.
Antwort von schafred:
Hello and thank you in advance for the helpful forum!
I fox grade me a little in the camcorder world, and had very beginning of course, the "what do I buy" problem to be addressed.
At home, the FULL-HD Television is an output device as synonymous (PS3) and I would like to have in the HD class once owned (but especially so affordable in the consumer sector).
Sure, the spit test is always the same faces that are so synonymous yet sooo many ... and in the race are SonySR8e and 7e and Canon HG10 and HV20 ...
What sound and Co. are all similar and a lot to offer with external Micro can be operated - freu ...
But now comes the Picture - the HV20 includes almost everywhere in the Picture as the Number 1 from - but is "only" 1440 x 1080 on. That should disturb me, not next IF sufficiently assured me that the difference to 1920 x 1080 at normal viewing, or just not very experienced eye noticed.
Then the codec issue - nearly everything about this and read the following lovely synonymous Comparison found (thank you "trunk") http://www.fxsupport.de/01_AVCHD_gegen_HDV_HC3_SR1.html and I must say yes in principle, that when the state images of the AVCHD codec, in my eyes looks better than with higher Datenate recorded HDV codec ... deceptive or das?
Are the Artefarkte ever visible in the current movie?
So in short: If you have a Unteschied between HDV1440 and AVCHD1920 (generally synonymous accurate and happy;) - and if so, who performs better?
Thanks in advance, and a friendly greeting
Lestat
Antwort von ruessel:
Still images can really only in the most extreme statement Vivid images correctly, it's still the JPG compression to do so. However, to compare the image LowLightbereich are differences in the cameras usually already so large, which makes it to the JPG bit is no longer needed.
Download the movie samples download, copy it to your PS3 and look at rest flat on your ......
Your cameras listed are all determined not Fehlkäufe .... one can do better, the other das .... look at a FullHD your choice and you will certainly easier, Eighth synonymous to ugly codec traces in color or s.Farb / contrast edges.
Antwort von schafred:
There can only be that AVCHD at a little more artifacts could occur, but in comparison to HDV no longer noticeable. The difference in the Resolutionist (especially when the consumer) is not measurable, let alone visible.
Antwort von Lestat:
Proboscis - you always hit you a little to ratings and "blame game" drumrum ... this is one good, but of little help in decisions;)
jut - I tend to HV20 ...
why?
Security is good - I had bad hard drive crashes, which I have tasted a lot of money (in this case it would be more hobby and therefore less tragic)
Engine noise at ext. Micro ausbooten - is not a thing to be yes.
Cassette gibbet always buy anywhere (vacation)
Currently processing the data easier.
If someday I have tasted blood and no longer can let go, there are new appliances and everything is a little "next".
I come with this decision next?
Hoffe already;)
Antwort von ruessel:
Proboscis - you always hit you a little to ratings and "blame game" drumrum ... this is one good, but of little help in decisions;) Yes, my server is in Germany ....... You know the fun with omission statements?
Antwort von Lestat:
already okay - consistently.
but think you may have - and if one believes that a picture is more beautiful than the other, then I am personally of the opinion that you should express - what lawyers on the subject say, may vary;)
But yes I see what you ultimately you've bought ...
Antwort von ruessel:
But yes I see what you ultimately you've bought ... and I had so much choice .... ;-)
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Lestrat
Maybe even a hint .... lass Dich FullHD of the seal of the EICTA not be fooled. It is not called that Resolution1920x1080 be, but only the input or. Ausgangesignal. This means that each picture can be interpolated. It is probable that the current AVCHD devices are not standard and only the old MPEG2 constellation 4:3 profiles of the H14 and use only 1440 made.
The H.264 algorithm is much better. Artifacts, the troth for MPEG2 data typically were higher, with H.264 are hardly available. (Although only 60% of data) tests of the Blue-Ray Association have found that the picture of a film scanning at about 16Mbit / s from the original can not be distinguished. Then, must come to MPEG2 really throw.
My advice, buy you a H.264 Camera, where the profiles are better. Let the Christmas shopping season and the sell-out run of the old structures with new HDV memory and modified algorithm.
Otherwise, if you do not want to wait and it is a discontinued model, then lying with the HV20 you sure bildseitig not wrong, although I getürkte "Progressive" is not quite as nice find in the Camera.
I had the opportunity to "real H.264 against DVCProHD to compare over 1000 without a converter and transcoder going to have to have my eyes and really do not dare, what in such low data rate is possible. Pity that there is still no real FullHD Consumer Cameras There.
Do you need full information?
Here is everything:
http://www.auberge-tv.de/Book-on-demand/Inhaltsangabe.html
Antwort von rosenbaum:
arrived? Regret?
Synonymous Stand in front of this issue - either or ...
because rather have a specific question - HDV is not FULL HD - by contrast with the AVCHD cameras ... one sees this "loss" s.Pixeln? So on a FULL-HD LCD mind Hi,
writing this contribution for the second time now, the first went irgenwie lost.
Also, the camera has arrived and the first was impressive, and the tactile quality housing to the HV 20 is much better !!!!!!
Today was my first outdoor trip at Zoo Leipzig.
Handling as far as I can judge absolute beginners, very simple and really easy for everyone to handhaben.Ich had something in front Touchsreen skepticism, but I think the synonymous has its advantages.
It is not so easy any buttons adjust.
So, now my impression of Picture and Sound.
Camera s.Samsung via HDMI Full-HD is connected and then only
WAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU,
What a Picture. Simply fantastic
I found the picture quality better than the standard digital TV picture.
Even the drive noise was very quiet except in scenes not to hear, no comparison to the 20th AGM
Conclusion first, fully enthusiastic.
I just hope that I have a loud enthusiasm, my hobby, photography is not neglect, actually yes, the camera should be for my wife.
I hope now with the set klappts
Gruss Jürgen
Antwort von leroc:
That with the touch screen I find really wonderful. No buttons, you accidentally pressed and the menu is easier and better. I had but after about 1.5 years of intensive use for my HC1 NEN failure of the touchscreen. This has the warranty repaired in 2 weeks but did not say why is broken.
Antwort von krummhorn:
Hello!
Probably the ribbon cable from the LCD screen to Kamerabody defective (parts of which simply gone).
I have my HC 1 just two days ago after 10-day repair
of the same defect again bekommen.Camera is like new (after 45
Heading hours and 18 months in operation). Repair was considered
Warranty acknowledged.
Schöne Grüße jürgen
