Frage von sas_hh:
Moin.
So I know that the HV test her from the picture is better, but I like the sharpness of the ring very JVC.
Can the 2 ever really compare? At Wolfgang's (ß) Blog I have the test read.
What would you say if I want to work more creatively (Money for a larger moment is not there ..)
Can 3CCD 1 / 5 with the cmos canon of measure? synonymous and the other properties of the two cams?
thank you in advance
Antwort von Jan:
Proboscis should actually have said (I have not read this blog).
The HD 7 is lost in many areas, in three but not quite sure.
- 3-chip HD 7 definitely has better color, so rich and bright colors synonymous stronger more sharpness in the color
- In record time, thanks to the hard drive wins it very loosely synonymous (if one has a large battery), and they can do normal HDV signal to spend it just as easy with an editing machine and the program as the Canons
- Yes the Focus ring, the wheel of the General Assembly 20 & 30 is especially for big fingers are not easy to operate
- In second-best quality can be in the HD 7 synonymous to memory card fimen
When Stabilizer, AF, Resolution, Lowlight, manual options (manual Tonaussteuerung, headphone jack), it is clearly inferior.
Canon has in the HV 30 (yes details are difficult to obtain - Canon HDV Video Professional trainer Mr Küppersbusch has some info on the rausgelassen roadshows at the presentation) its micro-lenses (there were s.der HV 20) further improved, a small micro-lens on each diode, which is now even more effective working.
The camera now needs less signal amplification and the same sensor is still a bit lichempfindlicher.
HV 30 is intended to be in black, now of higher value - and not just because black, but because the black aufgerauht is not so cheap as in the slippery 20th AGM
The LCD is a bit more synonymous in daylight and in adverse Einschauwinkeln. The Zoomwippe is synonymous a bit wider, but unfortunately not as nice as the Canon AVCHD HG 10th
Otherwise, there is nothing else big s.der HV 30 in Comparison to the 20th AGM
VG
Jan
Antwort von Tom Keller Schweiz:
thanks for your reply. when our hv30 (ie how PALIER) synonymous change was more than color lcd and amazes me, the great 30p-renewal was in fact only for NTSCland important.
Should we wait for the HV30, if you look at degree of HV20 want to buy? Are around 200 ¬ surcharge.
Antwort von Jan:
I have only the HV 30 since the 20's gone with me. I can be very difficult to compare.
The aufgerauhte Black - is my impression - I like better. Naja ich steh eh synonymous black cameras - that is sometimes an advantage.
The new LCD I could not test, because the weather is not so great at the moment and I do not have time to.
Is it really ¬ 200 difference, I would have never thought about it?
VG
Jan
Antwort von SebiG:
What is the HV30 Comparison to HF10? Are the quality of the image, etc. are identical?
Antwort von Tom Keller Schweiz:
The HD 7 is lost in many areas, in three but not quite sure.
- 3-chip HD 7 definitely has better color, so rich and bright colors synonymous stronger more sharpness in the color
Well, whether it is true ...
When I look for example at the camcorder Slashcam Comparison chart there is the Canon in Farbwiegergabe, Picture Resolutionund subjective impression better than the JVC.
Antwort von antje:
What is the HV30 Comparison to HF10? Are the quality of the image, etc. are identical? I think the will of the picture quality, etc. are not equal, because the HV30 and the HF10 different CMOS sensors are installed and Lenses. But there is something you probably still have to wait ...
Antwort von Jan:
The HD 7 is lost in many areas, in three but not quite sure.
- 3-chip HD 7 definitely has better color, so rich and bright colors synonymous stronger more sharpness in the color
Well, whether it is true ...
When I look for example at the camcorder Slashcam Comparison chart there is the Canon in Farbwiegergabe, Picture Resolutionund subjective impression better than the JVC. For me it was just about the color.
This can be one way or see on my Page is smart, active video, 1 client (the HV 20 in the HD 7 and has now swapped satisfied, because his "flower pictures" now finds advantageous, since the sharpness of the HV 20 fit - but the colors are bleached matters - like almost every 1 Chipper halt)
HF 10 / 100 is nice, my colleague has a short clip rotated (synonymous the MTS files) - but can not publish - otherwise gibts stress because Canon until April the Camera rausbringt, and are reluctant to look into the card to be carried out at the camera for Überflieger AVCHD conditions.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Stallforce:
Hi Jan, I would like your comments and slightly expand it somewhat synonymous correct.
The AF of the HD7 is not working quite as fast as the AGMs but he is by his stoic silence and works perfectly WITHOUT pumps.
HD7 To focus further added that the Fokusassits the only affordable option is his scenes really sharp manner. All other proceedings are only a preview via the Full HD panel, as none of the monitors and the Cam Viewer is useful for assessing sharpness not even of the Sony EX1
The Randunschärfen Optics of the HD7 Fujinon are only s.einem WW geweissen area and should not be on all models can be found.
Adjusted WW s.den the HV20, there is no Randunschärfen.
The bar is in its one!! extremely tepid story because he is more just for Stadys created Tripods and seems to say the Cam is more for people with storyboard thought or documentary.
Audio section, is at the AGM to forget. Only about eion external Micro can use O-tonmitschnitte use. The HD7 looks the thing much better.
In color reproduction, especially in Lowlightbereich, I agree with you on the HV20 falls, but she is not in the DISSOLUTION SHARPNESS better but in real moving in the direction completely disappears no preference.
Pure subjective evaluation of my colleagues and friends, the HD7 as much valued as the real material of the HV20.
Antwort von Stallforce:
Here is another synonymous Comparison of SonyHC7, Panasonic SD1, Canon HV20 and JVC HD7:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/The-Great-HD-Shoot- Out --- Canon -HV20-Sony-HDR-HC7-Panasonic-HDC-SD1-JVC-GZ-HD7/Conclusion.htm
Antwort von Jan:
I have no problem with a Korrigur.
Synonymous yes I make no such comparisons (for me the missing time).
The author says yes (HD 7):
"True, there are a lot of compression artifacting, but the level of detail looks good, and the color balance is better than some of the previous shots"
Scharf Peaking adjustment assistance is in the HV 20 to forget the HD 7 and can SonyHC 9 significantly better. Fokusassi I've only just overflown times, yes Canon and the sound of the built-in microphone ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von sas_hh:
I am now after your comments quite out and hergerissen between HD7 and hv30.
The bad image is stable, I think one of the strongest arguments against the HD7, a lot of sport because I want to make recordings
Antwort von Jan:
If you have a tripod to take - then there is no problem anyway, because you have wisely synonymous off the bar. There are a few cameras where the tripod with stability - it does wander Picture ...
Manual Tonaussteuerung and headphone output (you can use in the HD 7 tinker myself) but for talking like the Canon HV 20 & 30th
VG
Jan
Antwort von sas_hh:
That is clear.
Ne wanted by the little tripod filming.
Bring the focus ring of the HD7 ever such a big advantage-it is certainly hard on the LCD to be made correctly.
Antwort von bj-the-oj:
Hello again, here is an example relating to Mic and HD7
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=108907
And under normal circumstances for the work with the HD7, none is required.
Concerning stability, the stability of the HD7 is not for fast movements than words ActionCam unsuitable for rice pans. For this you must HD7 you a unique way to shooting habit. The stability in the off state only for static shooting! but not bad for Camfahrten with tripod heads.
The work with the Focus Assist which is easy because the edges of the selected objects with different colors marked.
Say I can focus point while working on a set point and immediately choose what I use. As an example, take a road with a lantern poles you along in the film and depth to each mast in Lichtgeschw. Sharpen it and that is really sharp synonymous. Concerning sharpness control, this is in the HV20 in no case possible and I have to leave the internal sensor. The reason for this is not usable in daylight and the display of non-performance viewer.
As already described, with the HD7 need to be addressed. Once this is done, you get the results of a shot can be tears of joy. Also, the Canon XHA1 of you can put in the standard presets forgotten. On Test Reports Marginal, I would just listen to me and one's own opinion. Here you have a page with some test files.
http://www.fxsupport.de/01_Vergleich_JVC_GZ-HD7_und_Canon_HV20.html
Antwort von bj-the-oj:
How is stability because in comparison to other cheap cameras from?
I have with the example of Canon MV20 filmed, and was satisfied with the stability. Maybe because I have a different idea synonymous because I am with many Billigcams rotated and have the stability of the HD7 would convince me anyway?
As a reference I have the Z1E, because he was an absolute hammer, but a comparison would be with the so pointless.
The wizard with a focus sounds really good, but when the auto focus of the HV20 is good would be too disruptive so synonymous with auto focus.
Oh, I can frame with exactly the material of the HD7 cut?
Hab since until now always read different opinions
Thanks in advance!
Antwort von Jan:
MV 20 - was not the models with nearly 400,000 pixels in the CCD and an optical stabilizer - is quite a bit come from?
The stability is very poor. I was only difficulty with 5x optical zoom about a peaceful Picture managed to get out of hand, with the HV 20 & Pana SD 5 & 9 is for me even at 10x no problem - with two-hand operation.
Well each has its strengths and weaknesses of the current Panasonic GS 90 (250 ¬) with Advanced OIS, the HD 7 in the area quite loose, the Canon MD synonymous with their models actually worse eingeschätzen digital stabilizers are higher.
But try it yourself.
Now I only savvy, edge reinforcement in various colors usually called Peaking (Canon & Sony) - probably because JVC has again chosen a name. Well for me it is synonymous Peaking. Focusassi at other firms is often a LCD & viewfinder image magnification by a factor of 2 a.m. to 3 p.m. - that one can misunderstand.
Canon HV 20 has only weisses Peaking - what we almost did not see - at least in comparison to SonyHC 9, FX 7 and JVC HD 7th
If you contrast motifs, a set with multiple front & background motifs for the smallest size & Lowlightlicht, then AF is always very dangerous, I film to 90% for MF - but fortunately with the Henkelmann Group - to allow better handling.
The GM 20 & 30 wheel sharpness is pretty small and not to my taste - for HD 7 is the small focus ring has a bit better.
HDV & HD material in the HD 3 & 7, MPEG 2 (MPEG 2 transport streams) - ie with nothing framegenauem cut ala DV.
VG
Jan
Antwort von sas_hh:
Yes, the Mv is older;)
But was a good purchase, it was me as an additional camera Zür XL1 recommended.
And since both are gone now must ne new her.
Since I Weitwinklig movies much anyway, I would zoom stability and no preference.
However, I must frame can be cut.
Then comes the most out HD7 ...
Thank you!
Antwort von Jan:
For high definition you will not always find a lot of cameras, for each frame, the full information store. Panasonic HVX 200 was the cheapest camera but is not it?
VG
Jan
Antwort von sas_hh:
Oh true, I have diesesn frame crap I've still no idea made up on that because Drpouts are uncool.
How can I do then with HDV zb properly adjust the Music?
Can I use only all 11 frames as a start? Actually wanted to sport / fast cut ..
