Frage von Delinquente1:
So, I am such good now since 2 months ago by the various forums and are not really smart ...
I'm looking for a camcorder for skateboarding / snowboarding / kite videos always synonymous with fast motion in the picture as well as synonymous fast pans occur. Even in times of Tripod filmed but mainly from the hand. I would very much like high-resolution record.
After many comparisons was my choice on the HV20 - the only one where I'm not sure are quick movements. I have found several forums in which entries of artifacts with fast movements generally HDV / MPEG2 is spoken, really confirmed or deposited with a sample but has nobody.
Now to my actual questions:
1. Has someone the HV20 and makes sports photography
2. someone can give me the error screen actually confirm
3. someone like the HV20 clips with fast movements in Picture / fast pans
4. which should all be so, can I get a better camcorder for my area recommend (until about 1000, -)
I thank you in advance for hopefully many respond to me in my decision hopefully finally move forward.
Antwort von hazuki:
So when sport shots from the free hand
(the athletes) will be much gewobble give ...
as shocks and pans in cmos cams
the rolling shutter effect can lead ..
(gabs here to take a contributory vs. cmos. ccd)
gruß cj
Antwort von riotaudiovisuals:
Here is an example eist clip -> http://www.the-riot.ch/2007/?p=116
Filmed with an HV20 Cinema mode or something, so with 25P (25 frames / s)
Sliced with APP2.0-with 50% of normal speed!
Encoded in H.264 with AFX!
You see the problem, with 25 frames at 50% speed, you have only 12.5 images (it jerky), so is ideal in my view, this mode of the HV20 is not for sports! But if you take the 50i mode, are synonymous acceptable slow!
Also for the shooting sports scenes like the skate / snow etc. I would tell you a little heavier recommend Camera (Canon XH A1, etc.) -> inertia = Less Jerkiness, because so often when you ride movie! Unfortunately, in your budget for these models are not happy!
The image error can I not confirm!
gruss
matthias
Antwort von Delinquente1:
Hi, JC & Matthias!
Thanks for your quick reply.
Did I just viewed the video, to the ruckler by the 25p mode in connection with slow-mo is the extent but ok! I guess times without slow-mo was not geruckel. but anyway I had my action shots in 25p but 50i filmed.
I was terrified that flips the board itself ruckler arise and you may not even recognize what it now was for a flip - (was in another thread as described above)
One XM / XH or similar comes with my budget, unfortunately, no green branch ...
But am a little old Hi8 SonyHandycam usual and have learned synonymous hereby mobile recordings without large gewackel style.
gruß
Werner
Antwort von urmel2:
here is something to be wobbling subject:
http://www.videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=4278
gruß cj
Antwort von space_diver:
Well, the 25p mode was now very poorly suited as an example ;-)) - here you should already interlaced drive (as indicated), at least the intermediate or take still photos to illustrate how it is in the optimal case might look like - that's why was yes.
Antwort von Delinquente1:
exactly what it was actually me ...
Hence the question: Has anyone sport videos filmed with HV20/50i and I can make these available? würd me the real decision easier.
The gewobble with which I think is rather an exception error when very strong constant vibrations occur in connection with ois at. credible but not so that the effect will occur frequently.
gruß
Werner
Antwort von urmel2:
I can give you some skate videos to send as soon as my firewire card arrives .. which should already be there
aufm display fast movements seem as long as there is no interlaced problem to be
(but I'm on skates while I hope you have no problem ^ ^)
Antwort von Delinquente1:
but I'm on skates while I hope you have no problem ^ ^ No, is not a problem for me, o)
hast du das vlt material. schonmal on a HDTV you can watch?
I would be really happy if a clip to download could provide. then good luck that the card comes soon!
Antwort von Delinquente1:
So, I've now in an Austrian Onlineshop the HV20 for ~ ¬ 740, - and ordered them werd mal debug - geb then how they bescheid here for sport shooting is!
Regards, Werner
Antwort von Mellops:
Hmm how do I get for a recording with 50i out? When the 50i HDV standard? Wants after Christmas bischen filming snowboarding and of course synonymous s.and s.mal a slow motion in the post-install.
Would be glad if anyone there could give some information.
Or just 25p film premiere and the tinkers cope if you cease slow. What do you what is better?
Antwort von darg:
You need to activate extra 25p mode. HDV is 50i or 60i stop in USA.
Gruss
Axel
Antwort von slowmo:
Achso, thank you.
What does 25p since then? So other than that standbilder look better?
Antwort von slowmo:
So, did the HV20 now and must say the first tests were really high, can unfortunately no footage to upload, but my line is too slow.
So fast motion in the picture are not a problem - the 25p mode is logically but not the best of them. is very suitable for landscape photography.
The wobble effect, I had until now 1 times. But since I have a car on a road freiland filmed, approximately half of zoomed and elbow on the side based. it was pretty bumpy and the building was stable. it then has the building for about 2sek. "geschwabbelt".
In normal situations (including synonymous during the ride on the skateboard), I could not yet determine.
However, something unpleasant, is the autofocus when pumping at close s.einem object is too far einzoomt and pumping the building and it looks really ugly. can be negligible but I with a wide converter or eradicate synonymous.
All in all I love this little cam. In conjunction with the Rode Videomic they synonymous offers very good sound without distracting or zoomgeräusche drive. For darker interior shots I like the movie mode in 50i is very good. Noise is almost non-existent and everything is redundant.
And the picture quality when considered outside shots on a good HD television is available in this price range simply breathtaking.
-Delinquente1
