Frage von RocknRoyal:
Hello,
Now since I am now the HV30 Canon gegönnt of times and just about 20min. div and since I filmed it all, unfortunately, not yet on the PC can play (Firewire is still missing) - I have the CAM summarily s.meinen plasma via HDMI connection (Sharp - do not ask me the exact name, has almost 5,000 ¬ tasted) and I thought I must unbraked "break" - it was anything other than what HDTV I've seen when I put it with my Blu-Ray's see, can also at least "I" in the moment does not claim that the Canon Low-light qualities .... would have filmed in the bedroom, blinds down, 2 lamps (table and ceiling) and the Picture effect on me as with a 30 ¬ RTL SHOP Camera, completely pixilated (grösstensteils green / red pixels) -- you can not really see! Then in the bathroom with a very strong light ceiling s.der same game ... and even in the kitchen is the Picture spongy and very noisy ...
No question
It is probably synonymous with the serve together hang, but out of the box should surely be better than the experience of me, maybe is synonymous CAM broken? ... 've already such a rage now, which I have just had awakened my wife and said "Forget it, tomorrow I am buying a new in a different price segment ".... and maybe I do, in fact.
Tell me a good bit of fun CAM (HDTV) to approximately ¬ 3,000! Because then you have at least as synonymous in the hand! Yes I dream of an HVX200, but it is currently just not there ... maybe around Christmas, when it comes to me because according prepares fun ....
LG
Alex
Antwort von Axel:
Salut Alex.
You were too gullible. It circulate false ideas about HD and its stunning imagery and auto on the strengths of certain Lowlight cameras. This will confirm all here.
With the price segment, 1000 or 3000 euro, has nothing to do significantly better lighting Cams begin as ten times this s.dem Prices, and although the HVX a beautiful Cam is, the pictures would not differ so much (or worse, I ).
Although you can because of the lack of Firewire no example photo, but I see it before my inner eye, that you
Camera s.die did not properly served
b) just an ugly and too faint light (blinds down? Phew! privately Germany?) did, and it looks absolutely None at Camera good.
If it turns out that the camera is actually broken, bar I ever Apologies in advance. Meanwhile I have so much noisy stuff of known bright Cams seen pictures as an example (Waldi at the 40 Watt kitchen light, rusty garden tool in a damp
basement, and, yes, actually unmade bed with Snoopy motif before lowered blinds!) That I quite cheeky say: It is always s.Kameramann.
Antwort von Dextromethorphan:
HV30 first Gehversuhe, totally disappointed! Thought of yourself in dealing with this camera ...
Antwort von Dextromethorphan:
Hey
It is not just that you seem ... It wants to be synonymous pressed!
Paule
Antwort von Quadruplex:
The Canon is with a solid security product - but a 1000-euro-Cam is inherently inferior quality as part of a studio for several tens of thousands of euros.
And then apply for any camcorder as the old saying: The money for a good outcome can not sunk with the camcorder, but with the Drumrum: Lighting, Tripods, sound, decorations, masks, effects, etc. It has reasons that films of synonymous 'DVD popel its usually look better and better to listen than a camcorder video ...
Antwort von rudi:
I sit straight s.HV30 test and just wanted to briefly mention that the HV30 with HDMI behavior s.den day, that I was just pretty annoying and I still could not stop:
The HV30 will decide "auto" when you play in what format they rausspielt via HDMI, and with our HP w2408 24-inch display are simply 576p. Point. It was not me yet the camera to show on screen s.diesem output 1080i.
About Canopus Pegasus makes them synonymous 1080i, but s.dem HP display do I just 576i and it may be synonymous in the camera does not change. Previously played all the other cameras no problem with the display together, but the Canon automatic here apparently wants its own soup.
It is therefore possible that at least the pixels of your problem is therefore that you on your plasma just a PAL signal from the HV30 admire ...
rudi
Antwort von Dextromethorphan:
if you do not look at the user wants to incorporate a hv30
is attacked for 3000, - ¬ cam banned monetary ...
then you should prefer a cx6 buy and is good ...
gruß cj
Antwort von Dextromethorphan:
Hey,
now it was not so hard with me to court, I had mentioned that it probably is synonymous s.der handling, because it was not at my EOS400D great otherwise - a Ferrari uses synonymous me nothing, if I either had no license or the drive had not learned ... no question!
But,
synonymous today with very good lighting conditions (outdoors), I was now not so convinced everything and I probably still come for me to his decision (which struck me now s.meisten is) something that I need in hand, a little weight! Even my EOS400D probably has more to offer, I'm probably so accustomed.
Accordingly, I am playing now but I thought with the other cam to buy garnicht so much for the disappointment, which I just synonymous to handling lead back, but the experience gained, the handling ... she was in business well in hand, but now seen, it seems to me a little too small ... can be difficult to explain.
But what about the quality as with an expensive CAM, say for example, the Canon XH A1 - because so many say the equivalent HV20/30 delivers images etc - is this really so? Although the A1 has probably 3CCD etc? Because of the purely Optics speaks my Camera s.and very well the fact that the synonymous Canon film a certain look created if I have understood it! Can also be in the A1 record 25P? So either 24/25?
Gruss
Alexander
Antwort von Axel:
But what about the quality as with an expensive CAM, say for example, the Canon XH A1 - because so many say the equivalent HV20/30 delivers images etc - is this really so? Although the A1 has probably 3CCD etc? Because of the purely Optics speaks my Camera s.and very well the fact that the synonymous Canon film a certain look created if I have understood it! Can also be in the A1 record 25P? So either 24/25? The guide gives you the best Wolfgang ( "trunk") HDV Blog:
http://www.fxsupport.de
- With example videos to download. The 25f mode is good (on Page proboscis with preset treated wrong, hence the
extreme Jerkiness), but needs at least one camera work, the worse the motion resolution into account. Like the looks (ask specifically for the "bucking" Eight), you can view a clip of Michael ( "Cocoa") view:
http://www.cocoa.de/news2/2007/05/18/film720.wmv
, - Of course, synonymous with exemplary Steadicam work and "good" is lit ;-)))
Too good for my taste, although the extreme "clipping", ie the over-exposure, here's intention is to have a little more detail is not harmed. As for the close-up of the cigarette synonymous beautifully illustrates a weakness of Optics ( "CA"), which has Kippe against a green contour, where no green in the picture was here wahrsch. reinforced by the adapter. There is almost nobody in the "first steps" with the A1 was not disappointed. It is not a snapshot camera.
Antwort von Coyoty:
Probably you did in your tests rely on the automatic (which is not meant pejoratively), but who prefers filming in automatic mode, you should order the XH A1 makes a big arc, because the automatic cam this is no good - there are the automatic settings of the Canon consumer grade slightly better (that's synonymous a good thing, because if you have a XH A1 has seltendsten filming in the cases in the "green" mode). Very good Sony offers automatic programs - both in HC 7 as synonymous with the "prosumer" 7th FX
So if you are hope your films are better cars, if you look "better" Cam Holst, then you will again be disappointed. The XH A1 is a top cam - but You
have to employ so intense ...
Antwort von doro-jojo:
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Antwort von Coyoty:
Still image video cameras and are generally on the M-operated setting. Otherwise the shit out you can not control.
Who in the shooting without proper lighting works will always be disappointed and if someone on BR movies with amateur recordings compares synonymous this someone can only be disappointed.
Schonmal something of intelligence and logic belong? What happens when film images? How many people and technical equipment are involved in such productions? How many persons are amateurs who like their bedroom to film in complete darkness?
5000 Euro more expensive Proll TV times and just a 3500 ¬ Camera target because the other is too small ...
At your place I would be in ground floor and ashamed of times and think about whether you inferiority complexes plague.
Either you come from rich parents' house or in your job earn unjustified way too much money. The latter would not even surprise me. Are so many extremely bang bags of the logic and reality have absolutely no idea and in leadership positions.
Harsh words but sometimes I just Galle high with people if I have to do. Maybe I should rather work with animals because I feel sympathy when they are stupid and something bungle employ instead of pure aggression when Compared to my people.
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Hello Alexander. I drün.mich times a little slack, as the host.
With the caveat that may actually a defect is present (which I rather think is unlikely), I advise against a replacement for reasons of image quality from bad. Synonymous But for reasons of usability, I am in your statements a little skeptical that this is not an excuse, perhaps, is another camcorder to be done.
Of the tests of the similar predecessor since I suspect this camcorder does not seriously bad, so it will probably lie s.der handling. Kunstlichtbeleuchtete interior scenes offer only with properly Lux "acceptable" results. Most bulbs require more than the lamp holder is permitted (even when E14 is often a 40W limit ... then I would not be enough light to 60W and E27 for non-200W, and it may still be too little) .
And to have enough light, is one thing. For a clever picture of the camcorder, or the lucky viewers of your mess to be designed to be a totally different story and involves exercise.
Actually, this is totally trivial, and this could be the reason, what the speaker has so excited. Namely, that you are producing bad images and the blame on the equipment side view.
The good s.Super8 was that man with the slippers 40ASA of K40 in the living room to a movie film was light dependent. This one is aimed mostly with questionable aesthetics due to the motive. But the contingent a bit, something that you thought about them.
The fact that the video technology are witnessing a entgegenkam, has apparently not well, then the results have gotten better. Rather, the photographic efforts have been replaced by lethargy. Often the question comes after the film look. Only ...
for the umpteenth time ... not even the one who is charged with an Arriflex 765 movie look can achieve, because here and there the picture is not really in the camera is done, but DAVOR. It is s.die needs of Camera maximum adjusted. Everything the camera needs batteries are charged and a tape! The picture needs light.
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
And the weak witty debate on a definition of "film look" Save us now please, before someone starts so now!
Antwort von j:
Schleich Michel Gast,
in how far the differences between the HV20 and hv30.
've Heard much the hv30 in the Eistellungen only car are true?
mfg
j
Antwort von kkutte:
Hi Folks
Have been about 1 year, the HV20, very much in use, without any Problem.Konnte now by a friend for a week, the HV30 testen.Ich had anyway before me a new cam to buy because I am very happy with the HV20 am.
I found no noticeable difference to picture quality is HV20.Die and gut.Schlechtes Lowlight was only partially true you have to simply deal with the cam and not automatic s.and going and then maybe Neonlichtprogramm in artificial and so.
Short-long speech, the sense HV20 is a really nice camera (except for sound! Must necessarily otherwise Micro ran, Controls fit after habituation phase synonymous good). After a week HV30, I have found nothing which would have disturbed me (except the still poor sound) , but why not synonymous for a HV30 more money than the HV20 for a yet to receive is to spend a few sollte.Vieleicht are different, perhaps synonymous Tevez really winding switches and paddles Purchase an argument for me was the course again rather ungewohnt.Das film results were qualitatively identical in any case well.
I can understand the CAM (no preference whether 20 or 30) in good conscience recommend
Antwort von Benny.:
HV30 first Gehversuhe, totally disappointed!
The problem is that the camera keeps = Rock Royal
or
The Camera has a defect.
PS. Title of "Bild" newspaper might come.
Three!
Antwort von Jan:
Schleich Michel Gast,
in how far the differences between the HV20 and hv30.
've Heard much the hv30 in the Eistellungen only car are true?
mfg
j That is Quark - wants to know who it was written.
When summarizing the main points, HV 30 has these changes:
- A black surface aufgerauhte
- A slight change in microphone Frequency response
- A new micro-lens structure on the CMOS while the output signal is now less need to be strengthened
- A larger zoom lever
- Improved LCD (Einschauwinkel & Sonnenanschaumöglichkeit)
VG
Jan
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Still image video cameras and are generally on the M-operated setting ..... Otherwise shit out ....
..... of intelligence and logic belong? ..... Yes where is the written ..... so I understand you grad synonymous ...... Yes I have and when you go I'm just not anticipate ;-(
Age, so I can at certain things that you see here ablässt The animals show ....( eg I like .... synonymous overpaid weak mats synonymous mags give ..... but then that's synonymous)
Kuck mal War Photographer about James Nachtwey of ... then tell me again that if the "A" mode photographed shit so what comes out ...... Quite clear case of null Peil NEN tip ..... here the "R" next to the car is not the rally going.
___
And so distinctive NEN 's should now be contributed to the thread .... you have realized that the times of the lation has started, well knows how to use a camera and operated ...... you still can not even log in? ? So what the wave traveled here?
Antwort von Chrissigorn123:
Na, but between auto and auto-shoot photography is still a small difference.
When shooting you would focus on a single object, which may not be moved - and if they do, then it will be within a frozen tausenstel seconds. The following are usually not more pictures taken during a short period in contrast, color and focus fluctuate (film content).
Say: You should: 1 not with the camera in the air "rumwedeln" or make quick pans, 2 as in the photograph on a limited field of view, then you loose as free recording.
Especially in situations where light and shadow each other, alternately, may camera movements (due to the automatic white balance) cause bad effects. When shooting something can not happen. :)
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Sure, I'll give you so synonymous ... but rather the principle Manual "Bildaufzeichnen" is absolutely recommended times only for people who are so intensively employ.
An example. Family father comes well synonymous with "automatic" clear. Whether this film will always have to look is synonymous questionable.
In photography since I use NEN Sekonic and the "A" setting and I know what or where light must adjust shutter etc ..... When I go shooting so synonymous with Camera ... Once then measured with the Sekonic. .. I am always good to Dato .... Before I ggefahren the cameras on "M" or etc imagine.
Although I personally illuminate a video recording is often harder than a photo .... but varies with the recording / object / location synonymous and used the lights / flashes, as well as soft and color (and last of all synonymous to what movies I use -- in relation to the shooting - Yes fetish films avowed DIA Still Image Fuzzi, goes even halt nix Drüben no preference whether KB or medium format)
Antwort von PowerMac:
A little nasty intentioned question s.Herrn Dekinder:
Can you really do not spell them out or is no preference?
When you discovered you recently loose five per line error.
Antwort von Diemei:
Hello,
Now since I am now the HV30 Canon gegönnt of times and just about 20min. div and since I filmed it all, unfortunately, not yet on the PC can play (Firewire is still missing) - I have the CAM summarily s.meinen plasma via HDMI connection (Sharp - do not ask me the exact name, has almost 5,000 ¬ tasted) and I thought I must unbraked "break" - it was anything other than what HDTV I've seen when I put it with my Blu-Ray's see, can also at least "I" in the moment does not claim that the Canon Low-light qualities .... would have filmed in the bedroom, blinds down, 2 lamps (table and ceiling) and the Picture effect on me as with a 30 ¬ RTL SHOP Camera, completely pixilated (grösstensteils green / red pixels) -- you can not really see! Then in the bathroom with a very strong light ceiling s.der same game ... and even in the kitchen is the Picture spongy and very noisy ...
No question
It is probably synonymous with the serve together hang, but out of the box should surely be better than the experience of me, maybe is synonymous CAM broken? ... 've already such a rage now, which I have just had awakened my wife and said "Forget it, tomorrow I am buying a new in a different price segment ".... and maybe I do, in fact.
Tell me a good bit of fun CAM (HDTV) to approximately ¬ 3,000! Because then you have at least as synonymous in the hand! Yes I dream of an HVX200, but it is currently just not there ... maybe around Christmas, when it comes to me because according prepares fun ....
LG
Alex Please read again my experience with the Canon HV 30
Forum under Quick Canon HV 30
MfG
Dieter
Antwort von Asta:
Hi Dieter
I think your experience with the Quick sorry. How are they.
I am interested the HV 30, especially since I am looking for an inexpensive camera with a good Midway Picture and makes for a Unterwasserbag there. I would be the camera for shots in the water when surfing use and therefore I would like to not invest too much.
Greetings!
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... think ... with the Quick Unfortunately not ... Dieter why his contribution has not just linked, probably remains his secret, but this experience to do it:
http://forum.slashcam.de/canon-hv-30-vt59484.html
Whether you this but the decision really help? ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von werbun:
Hi Bernd
You have absolutely right, the issue does not help really.
As I see, unfortunately, must be many "errors" or quality shortcomings of cameras often caused by errors.
That I have to search next time and see if I use the camera in your hand times get.
Thanks and nice greetings
