Frage von Login_vergessen:
Here is a brief impression of the Halbbildbelichtungsartefakten (what a word) of Z7 (and probably all cams with CMOS Rolling Shutter) with "flash" in the Picture ...
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=2o8Ytj2yPuE
Antwort von r.p.television:
Thanks for the illustration!
One can now imagine what a Bildgemetzel with a fast strobe light on concert stages and in nightclubs is.
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
And do not even need quickly. The lamp (it is a divers lamp) has a frequency of approximately 1 / s. Some of the light pulses, the camera does not record, sometimes is just a brighter "flicker" in a half of the screen to see ...
The whole thing should be in the dark still modest in appearance, such as the lightning flash on the "red carpet" at the aforementioned events or synonymous with emergency vehicles with flashing lights.
This is all in all very stupid, because who is responsible for magazine broadcasts and / or in the news business was had with this camera and the docked HDV hard disk recorder in good quality for your archive on tape and held at the same time, the SD for editing / data of the map. Although it is the hard disk recorder synonymous s.einer Z1 (and probably synonymous s.einer XH-A1 etc.) run, but again with "cable salad", as I did in conjunction with the FS-4 had hated ...
Antwort von Pete21:
The PMW EX1 is synonymous.
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
All CMOS cameras have this "character", just like all the CCD's with the "vertical smear" vitiated.
Personally, I'm curious times, whether in the foreseeable future, a camera with memory solution, the hybrid also can record, but CCD 's features.
Even if I now download Lyre: CMOS goes with
these artifacts only with productions planned and controlled lighting.
Everywhere there times * BLITZ * can do, versus the picture completely.
For me,
this is no technological progress.
Antwort von Jogi:
All CMOS cameras have this "character", just like all the CCD's with the "vertical smear" vitiated.
Personally, I'm curious times, whether in the foreseeable future, a camera with memory solution, the hybrid also can record, but CCD 's features.
Even if I now download Lyre: CMOS goes with these artifacts only with productions planned and controlled lighting.
Everywhere there times * BLITZ * can do, versus the picture completely.
For me, this is no technological progress. Can I generally do not agree. Have bad shots, but synonymous with excellent BlitzlichtBedinngungen filmed. Even fast laser shows can be with an EX1 Very recorded.
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
... Have bad shots, but synonymous with excellent BlitzlichtBedinngungen filmed. Even fast laser shows can be with an EX1 Very recorded. What is now so synonymous again after a little "time's work, sometimes not" sounds. I can rarely allow.
Antwort von Jogi:
There are, however, we must gwöhnen. because most construction Manufacturer CMOS. Abber synonymous CCD 's are in HD (V) in the flash of lightning sowas verpixelt and often unusable. One can but with some manual Shuttereinstellungen improve.
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
Abber synonymous CCD 's are in HD (V) in the flash of lightning sowas verpixelt and often unusable. One can but with some manual Shuttereinstellungen improve. ... but rather an MPEG compression as it is attributable to the CCD.
what Shuttereinstellung improved because the behavior of the CMOS?
I have my "attempts" made without a shutter.
If I have little light, but I will hardly turn up the shutter want.
Antwort von WoWu:
Jogi says certainly not the CMOS pixels but the behavior in CCD images with which he can improve with shutter .... and this is absolutely true.
Thus it is thus mitigated CCD.
In CMOS, however, with a higher speed readout of the sensor is synonymous ... Sony power in the ex models .... However, the upward course, limits to ...
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
Yes, as you probably right, Wolfgang. I have this answer misinterpreted.
The Ex-Models were really meek, what are the Halbbildbelichtung. Therefore, it seems to me that the sensors in the S270/Z7/Z5 synonymous rather "half-baked". In a camera for 500 EUR for Aunt Anna's birthday, I might still accept, but not for this. And the audience will be "used" must be, I already did not occur. It is not about the Nachzieheffekt of Plumbicons or smear of the vertical CCD 's, but completely stupid pictures, partially in 2 / 3 of the total picture. CMOS with global shutter of me happy, but then I do not know where the quantum leap in comparison to the CCD should be.
Antwort von WoWu:
Fully as core ....
... with the quantum leap in CMOS is already clear to me and I could look at the whole chain s.wirklich good enumerate advantages, if only one manufacturer, the two additional transistors on the chip for the GS spendier would ... then we would have a good solution.
Incidentally, the Canon D5 (You would know, the camera). That part is so synonymous have CMOS .... when I look at the content on the Internet to look, because I miss the RS completely! (of course in a figurative sense).
I still hope that Jan times a CameraLink suggest may investigate ... Perhaps Canon has really what gifts?
For CMOS and RS does not need it and CMOS (without RS) is really a big step in the right direction.
Antwort von WideScreen:
Have a few weeks ago when Brandner Kasper s.roten carpet rotated, and can make no effect. Camera was a S270. Strange.
Antwort von r.p.television:
Have a few weeks ago when Brandner Kasper s.roten carpet rotated, and can make no effect. Camera was a S270. Strange. I got myself in a VJ on its Z7 times display a flash thunderstorm can perform. The result was as expected a disaster. He would even the RS did not notice (which in turn indicates that the TV is not only people with insight are s.werkeln)
Also strange. The impressions of the stories here are either extremely subjective and RS is sometimes more or less (or no) visible.
Also it is not always easy to assess whether some false statements of owners pride influenced.
I get in December, hopefully time a EX1 to extensive testing. If it's so, I will reflect on and synonymous demo upload material.
Antwort von WideScreen:
@ Rptelevision
Had the problem occurred, the material would not been sent. Do think that at the time of acceptance for the idea öffis have, or should I call you God? :)
But what is so synonymous is clear, from the very Schutter depends. The tests show synonymous. If you have 'scandals' reveal, then please correct!
Effect synonymous with the rather interesting for Prommijäger should be, and in its documentation rather less. Turn yes no 30 min documentary during a thunderstorm.) Dochmal And if it happens that a flash "has a purely" then it becomes just the shutter and look at it fits.
Ned please forget that you have a Semiproffesionelle. That is just not for 5000 or Camera (S270) 10,000 euros and no HDCAM for 60,000.
Either nörgel ned, or you stop buying what clever.
Antwort von r.p.television:
@ Rptelevision
Had the problem occurred, the material would not been sent. Do think that at the time of acceptance for the idea öffis have, or should I call you God? :)
But what is so synonymous is clear, from the very Schutter depends. The tests show synonymous. If you have 'scandals' reveal, then please correct!
Effect synonymous with the rather interesting for Prommijäger should be, and in its documentation rather less. Turn yes no 30 min documentary during a thunderstorm.) Dochmal And if it happens that a flash "has a purely" then it becomes just the shutter and look at it fits.
Ned please forget that you have a Semiproffesionelle. That is just not for 5000 or Camera (S270) 10,000 euros and no HDCAM for 60,000.
Either nörgel ned, or you stop buying what clever. The RS effect is not so much by the shutter-dependent. Sure, I'm not God. And precisely why: If you're on the lazy camcorder LCDs sees the effect it will have more later on.
I just found it strange that a VJ for months with a camera filming Bltizlichtgewitter and never on this partial exposure wondering fields. One could say synonymous: A VJ is not a cameraman.
As long as you do not have pictures with Strobos, Biltzlichtern, thunderstorms, rotating Elemten fast pans or makes, the cameras are so good. But you realize quickly that the list of rotational long situations, where the CMOS cameras suboptimal images.
I nörgel on the ground because I am afraid that it will soon be 25000 Euro nix without CMOS with RS. I hang at the moment is still rather unwillingly s.meiner DSR-500 WSP because it is in the field of nothing I have mentioned are what convinced me how similar my current camera than in SD Times was still current.
As long as None is excited about the industry continues to produce these bugs. The CMOS sensors are absolutely no scrap. You only need the RS-Syndrome and to be liberated Globar are shutter. What exactly happened I do not know exactly, but I've read that perfectly technically feasible without additional cost is extreme. Wowu knows that better.
Antwort von WideScreen:
Then, probably at the time of acceptance have been blind.
And if you look at the problem reports on the topic as a cameraman in durchliest, you probably the one with the shutter a lot can change. And I have already noted synonymous. If not so, the effect that I have never seen it ....
The Billigcams are and remain a compromise. But I think synonymous, in the professional league which no soschnell feeder will hold.
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
Cheap? Well, that's matter of opinion. Whether a device "professional" or not, decides yes s.Enderbegnis rather than s.Kaufpreis. I already have numerous TV reports with my DVX rotated, not infrequently, this camera because of various factors, the means of choice was. My bottom line is completely synonymous no preference what Sonyda Create (it must be because I do not buy). It's just a pity that the other (in my eyes) not really good CCD Camera 's features or the RS-effect - as with the EX1 / 3 - on top of events. That this is ultimately synonymous to the price of the camera would have been depressed, it is clear to me. I would have this more in purchase price but made ...
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Fully as core .... LOL
Set ün disaster!
The word "disgrace" has already managed to German ...
Maybe you can of your
class with an opportunity to teach French ...
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Throats but times - and then spit out more beautiful!
Antwort von r.p.television:
Then, probably at the time of acceptance have been blind.
I think not even once. But it will depend on this phenomenon to another shrug because to ignore the channel times now that the camera has bought a dozen. Canon CCD than closing in as the XH A1 is, for many broadcasters and production houses have no option, because it is of no Canon Pro Series gives you and the Manufacturer in the Semi-synonymous or hand-held camera range is ignored.
A HVX200 or their successors would have been wiser, since reports of movie premieres, openings and the like are nunmal flash of lightning accompanied CCD and there is clearly a better choice.
But many s.Sonygebunden unseen and buy their semi-offshoot. And since the old PD150 or PD170 native 16:9 may not have been purchased Z7. The final as Z1 CCD Cam appeared probably no longer relevant enough.
In any case I will wait until a EX1/3-Nachfolger comes with a CMOS global shutter gets. I think the fact that the crucial evolutionary step.
Antwort von WideScreen:
If the ARD SonyS270? I never knew. That is so mean. Apart from that I was there. Na me is the no preference. I do 99% of Doku, and therefore is not for me so interesting. And unfortunately there are hardly any "affordable" Tapecams. And I can not NeXT month, when we shoot in Africa, running such a doofes Notebook lug just empty my memory cards to make. At about 50 hrs raw material, would be the acuh still used and the hard disks at 38 degrees by dragging the bush? Nee danke:) But please, I will now no discussion relating to Pro and Contra tape and memory card.
Cheap? Well, that's matter of opinion Well, a camera, which costs just as much as a cheap HD-optics of a camcorder, I have "cheap".
Antwort von r.p.television:
If the ARD SonyS270? I never knew. That is so mean. Apart from that I was there. I am standing on the hose or at whose contribution you respond?
Basically, it is TV-Anstalt not equate with ARD.
The third set as Henkel version often XH G1 On. ARD and ZDF are using HVX200 or DVX100. When I PRO7 some Z1 and still have the 4:3 models PD170er seen.
The S270 will think TV stations rather little in use. If already a shoulder model there is at least 1 / 2 inch set.
Antwort von WideScreen:
Then, probably at the time of acceptance have been blind.
I think not even once. But it will depend on this phenomenon to another shrug because to ignore the channel times now that the camera has bought a dozen. Well you have said but the. ".... THE sender ".... So, I assume that you weßt which station it was. Also I know the ARD rather P2 sets, so I ask so "hypocritical":)
