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Frage von rison:


Hello s.alle,

DSLR Cam'm big fan and would like to thank my girlfriend a CameraLink as a growth supplement. In Sight, I have the HDR-SR11. My questions:

s.möchte the films then s.meinem Processor Intel iMac 24 edit, this is at 2 GHz and 4 GB of Ram even possible? (iMovie)

b) where can I get the movies and look like? We in our family have synonymous (bisjetzt) normal DVD player and Television (yet ).... tubes

But I would like to retrofit in the future (TV) and therefore I will not 2 times in a short time buy, or am I with the above conditions are very wrong track and should ganzd other select Camera?

Besten dank,

rison mfg



Antwort von Jan:

Hello,

to s.mir While the Apple iMac 24 specifications and performance data is not known, but for DV editing, it's not what he has under the hood. Is it a two-core processor? To view the material is partly a 2 Ghz system with good equipment can vote, which comes but once again synonymous to the player to where the material is considered.

b) the will of many users, unfortunately wrong, as the mass of the 1080i MTS files is a regular PAL DVD 576i create and thus the quality advantage away, many DVD recorders have a feature upscaling via HDMI, only bad, it's at, if the Recorder of 414,720 to 2 million pixels (full HD) make.

It is of course the camera as a player take (if the films are still on the hard drive is), or you can copy the movies to the Memory Stick Pro Duo with them and look at the Camera, optionally with HDMI (Type A to C) or component cables ( supplied)

Blu Ray Player buy MiniBluRay (normal DVD files to burn without the Resolutionzu decreases but hold only about 20 min) or a Bluray would create a solution. The test should be done, because not every blank with any program and with every good writer is clear.

If that is too uncertain, the purchases of the Rapid Burner Sony (VRD-MC 5), SR 11 per USB or Memory Stick Pro Duo directly into the device, and in a short time a AVCHD DVD and then in a Bluray player. With the device, there were no problems with me, at least for Sony cameras.

Media players are currently in the "comment", that is really hard with HDMI & component outputs, depending on the model AVCHD material back to you. The material need only advance on the disk will be copied. There are currently few but well-known companies.

VG
Jan



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Gude ;-)

Darfst synonymous like several questions, which is already clear.

You. I think you confuse because this is what DSLR digital mirror reflex cameras aka Still Image Camera, or do you generally a Video Cam to you in addition to the existing DSLR want to buy?

The cam of you mentioned but it is ok.

One can make the material synonymous later to edit it on normal DVD players and TV tubes s look.

The raw material or the clip first as HD (V) output then let down, as is the usual way.

So you can still synonymous later in the HD (V) benefit.

MfG

B. DeKid



Antwort von rison:

Hello,

many thanks for the replies, yes I want to supplement my Canon 450 DSLR a CameraLink for my wife.

On my Mac again:

Processor2.4GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory1GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x1GB
Hard Drive 320GB Serial ATA Drive
Optical Drive SuperDrive 8x DL

So enough for everything I need?

So if I have understood you correctly: you can record only the highest quality? And then s.PC "turn down". Then I can create normal DVD, on any standard DVD player and (tubes) would anzuschaeun Television. And therefore I would be well equipped for the eventual grant a Blu Players and Full HD TV?

Can you directly of Camera Television überpsielen to normal?
(Camera as a player).

Or, as already written, should I face my Macs as synonymous of Fersneher / Player Combi eh in completely different league and a different camera to buy? What would you recommend then? (CIH believe except DV cassettes ...)

Best thanks to my additional questions;)
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Antwort von Jan:

I think your Mac is with the right program and player capable enough to work reasonably well. If you are an extreme freak're cutting (ie, color correction and tens Effects) then it should just be.

The SR 11, in contrast to the current Pana, Canon and JVC synonymous competition in Resolutionauf PAL, or HD films are as 576i PAL from.

And again, a regular DVD recorder and player wants to MPEG 2 compliant 576i PAL material, it takes no HD material. Some devices can not read other formats (like Divx) but not full HD recording. That means you are there with the Camera from 1920x1080, burning it on a regular DVD with 720x576 (ca) and leaves your DVD recorder (if he can) the material is again expected to be a Full HD Television.

This variant is the worst (but often used) way to adjust your view movies SR 11. Any DVD recorder manufacturer in force with its 1080 advertising upscaling function, where not only more Resolutionist, which can be difficult to calculate.

Can you easily explain, you have a 2 million pixel picture, like a postcard print - good! You verkleinerst the File of 1600x1200 to 640x480. Then you want another picture like this 10x15 print - and the picture is just too small (pixel) for a good 10x15.

A Bluray Player or Media Player can be your equivalent to SR 11 Recording process and show. Only then do you have of the sharpness of the camera recorded something.

A huge quantity s.Full HD TV customers looking synonymous sent a 576i PAL signal to, and wondering why the promotional videos in Full HD look so much better.

But you must note that a HD recorded calculated down to 576i PAL material often looks better than a directly recorded 576i PAL signal.

Yes, each camera is a RCA cable with the CVBS signal, one can without any problems to the signals carried over an old television, but RCA PAL 576i with quality - we are back to the old theme, the old tube TV anyway but creates no more - so no problem.

VG
Jan



Antwort von rison:

Hi Jan,

So if I have understood you correctly, (hopefully for the last time) I can with the camera itself 576i PAL recording (ie not HD and then downscaling). This, I can then easily on my Mac (yet to Confi afterwards bought 4 GB of Ram) edit and then burn on normal DVD and this is ultimately to normal tube TV with standard DVD player, but hold everything in PAL quality ....

But then, of course the question of why the whole? When I look in the near future einm Blue-ray players, recorders and Television growth would be OK, but otherwise, there is no better a standard resolution camera to buy? something DCR 210 SRE of Sonyist around ¬ 200 cheaper than the 11 SR ... I can not with DV cassette and DVD anfreuen directly record (Camera is too big)!. Can I get this material of 210 SRE edit on my Mac and then burn to DVD? And until I had made other investments (TV, recorder ...) so until then, it will be better and cheaper HD models? s.würdest thou me of Standradauflösungskameras recommend ?????

Best thanks for your endurance;)))

rison mfg



Antwort von Meggs:

"rison" wrote: I can unfortunately not with DV cassette anfreuen

Why not? The mini-DV tape has more advantages than disadvantages and saves SD ultimately better quality.



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"rison" wrote: I can unfortunately not with DV cassette anfreuen
You will belong to the people who are here in two months bitterly about their unbearbeitbares material will complain.
"Megger" wrote: Why not? The mini-DV tape has more advantages than disadvantages and saves SD ultimately better quality.
Probably true. But who does not want to hear ...



Antwort von rison:

Where is the difference between a standard definition on hard drive vs.. SA to mini DV?
Thank you
mfg
rison






Antwort von Markus73:

"rison" wrote: Where is the difference between a standard definition on hard drive vs.. SA to mini DV?
HDD camcorders usually use MPEG2 compression, while the DV material is only a relatively weak intra-frame compression, which is not one frame across works. This is much better suited for a high-quality and easy post.

Regards,
Markus



Antwort von Jan:

@ Rison - For the future, would be an HD camera but interesting synonymous sharpness if you are not yet need.

Then you have to somewhere between HD recordings to disk.

Sometime you have a full HD "chain" and then bring you the 576i PAL recordings not much. There are quite a few HD Television, PAL 576i, the material can be quite bad show (eg Samsung). Sony Is it pretty good.

There are currently more and more cheap Bluray player and HDD media player.

I SR 210 would be too expensive, as I said looks HD material down to PAL often better than expected 576i PAL material.

The point is you, every second user an HDV model, because on MiniDV cassette with your HD Recording (eg Canon HV 30) for 2 ¬ per 1 h film (if you buy normal cassette) is the best long-term archiving guaranteed. You can even edit film in the Mac, and then cut to a tape rewind. Many (almost all) HD HDD cameras do not want that, that is - the camera can only film footage rausgeben but not received.

VG
Jan



Antwort von rison:

Hi Jan,

So I can as a normal SD Camera Camera use in the user manual as I Sonyhabe setting for SD shooting read (ie, without further "doenscaling") on my Mac.

But if I use the material as HD launch? And then this s.normalem Television with normal DVD player wants. And HD material (I suppose) on an external hard drive to archive to wherever I am ... that is synonymous not it?

How would it even with Canon HV 30 as an alternative?

Besten dank,
mfg
rison



Antwort von Jan:

Hello,

yes - even the included software allows for a regular DVD of your HD recordings to burn. The Qualiät, however, is modest, for converting one should use another program.

The Canon HV 30 has only one competitor present - the SonyHC 9 - almost certainly an equivalent Camera synonymous with a few plus points (better Peaking ((sharpness adjustment assistance)), better wide, remote, 5 m affordable underwater housing etc) - but it costs significantly more .

It is synonymous is not entirely clear what the February 2009 re-introduced, as Sony said, the HC 9 gets only a successor, if the device sells. At least with the numbers I know, is the Canon HV 30 advantage in the HC 9 drags so then.

Panasonic has nothing with HDV eh s.Hut (original "We do not invest in an old and dying system with new technology"), JVC will be next year, synonymous of the MiniDV camcorders retreat and a flash memory offensive start.

The HV 30 is in long-term archiving, simple DV editing and material is difficult to beat, you have the tapes but to accept disadvantages.

And even more important, AVCHD is only very poorly by the Mac (or better of the camcorder manufacturers) which is synonymous already beweisst the supplied video software only runs on Windows. On Mac, there are not too many AVCHD compatible programs.

VG
Jan



Antwort von PowerMac:

More RAM in the iMac!



Antwort von rison:

Hello, so I'm actually for SONY HDR 11 and only remains the question of editing options s.Mac because I newbie here and want to do nothing great, hopefully enough synonymous iMovie, this is AVHCD and the SONY HDR 11 under base ....

Processor2.4GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 4GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x1GB
Hard Drive 320GB Serial ATA Drive
Optical Drive SuperDrive 8x DL
plus External Hard Drive 1TB Ext Hard Drive

Can someone please me of the Mac community say that if I was with my above-mentioned sense Austattung can cut and edit? Archiving - I s.ist no problem.

Jan> as a likely alternative, yet Canon HF 10 in question, but they can not record in SD, and otherwise I think is (of the tests read) the Sony better equipped, with very little downside to low-light shots vs. Canon. I see then Sonyals the right decision even though I myself as a long-time Canon DSLR users is difficult to do ;)....

Thank you very much
mfg
rison



Antwort von PowerMac:

Geht.



Antwort von maniero:

"rison" wrote: ...
Memory 4GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x1GB
...

The trick, as obtained from a 1GB Riegel 4GB rausholt, you explain to me again ... probably has ... 4x1GB intentioned, but otherwise you should see the hardware with no problems ...



Antwort von Jan:

Hello,

I would prefer to buy cheaper HF 100 (a silver RF built 10 without memory) and for the more fat difference SDHC cards.

In Videoaktiv.de looks a Lowlightbilder HF 10, 100 or HG 20 makes clear better than the 11th of SonySR

I do not know where it is always herholt that SR 11 is better equipped. SR 11 has no manual shutter, no pure manual Aperture, no 25 P program, no manual Tonaussteuerung etc - these are all important features - the manual estimates filmmakers - all at the SR 11 missing - Canon has these functions.

VG
Jan






Antwort von rison:

Hi Jan,

thank you for your answer, but I thought that my wife (before the no settings) with Sony to make to it is better. And you have even written that the only standard Sonyals resolution can (to the extent that Tec is for me)

mfg
riso



Antwort von nano:

Hi guys,
I do not know how it comes to the assertion that it needs more memory.
Your iMac with 2 GB is very well equipped! 4GB would Verschändung.
With the iMac with 2GB can even very fluently and with Final Cut Pro!
I presume that you do not just effect at 10 or even 100 video tracks simultaneously apply ;-)
To work with iMovie HD material with even 2GB is a lot.

Would prefer the money in a better Camera invest.



Antwort von PowerMac:

Complete nonsense. 2 GB is too little. At the 4 GB upgrade synonymous costs only 55 euros. This 55 euros will you prefer a camera to invest? Nonsense. 55 euros are not camera-quality, but much more power when cutting.



Antwort von nano:

Did you already clear that he works with iMovie!
As rich and very full 2GB. Otherwise, he can still buy empty bars. (1x2 + 1x2)

I work with Final Cut with 2GB and had never Proleme!



Antwort von PowerMac:

That has nothing to do. Who says iMovie would have fewer requirements than Final Cut? Is not so.
My 2 GB of him did not. And the reason: You cut a three-VJ amounts in DV. For some video footage and short range contributions little RAM. For more free video (DV) not enough RAM. It is about AVCHD. This is an entirely different video format, which has much larger system. 4 GB of RAM is the lower limit for it. And I do not accept that the questioner only three cuts contributions. It is the contrary to assume that long amateur movies will be created.

Incidentally, it is nonsense, is a second bars to buy. The iMac with 2 GB 1 GB built twice. So everything rausmachen and two new bars each with 2 GB installed.



Antwort von Meggs:

"PowerMac" wrote: So everything rausmachen and two new bars each with 2 GB installed.

And the price is 55 ¬?



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Megger" wrote: "PowerMac" wrote: So everything rausmachen and two new bars each with 2 GB installed.

And the price is 55 ¬?

Yes.



Antwort von MacPro:

"PowerMac" wrote: It is about AVCHD. This is an entirely different video format, which has much larger system. 4 GB of RAM is the lower limit for it.
Madness! iMovie can really attract more than 2GB? True 64-bit? When is the last with Final Cut Pro synonymous go?



Antwort von rison:

I have a 4 GB module in it so 1x4 GB Riegel

maybe I can Metrail somewhere on the net runterladen (Stream from the camera) and then try this?

So for the SonyHDR 11 and Canon HF 100

mfg
rison






Antwort von rison:

S.alle Hello again,

I know that I am partly repeat, but in the Endwahl come:

SONY HDR 11
CANON HF 100 and
CANON HG 20

Prices around ¬ 100 550 RF, the other 2 to 700 ¬, but when purchasing 3-4 16 GB cards is the price difference is only about 50 ¬.

Auc SDHC cards are cheaper than Memory Stick.

Now to the differences in the super database:

Can Sony as synonymous only SD (Standard Definition, MPEG2) recording, which konkrétne advantage it has for me now? (see my previous mails, currently only standard DVD player and TV tube ...)..
Other hand, Canon is synonymous 25 p? What advantage?

Surprised by max. Bitrate of the HG 20, up to 24 MB / s, but since all the coding with the same work, why the difference? Is in practice better Picture / noticeable? (of course it needs more memory synonymous ..)

Weiteinkel beo Sonyam .. in best practice use?

Recording the IR HF 100 not only a marketing gimmick ohenhin?

Canon with more manual settings - but since my girlfriend is not a freak, automatic program should more than enough (I hope, because I myself as a DSLR user knows that this is even Speigelreflex cameras is not the case .....)

Viewfinder Available at Sony? In practice? Especially when the good Display Sonyso has ever of importance? So the next point, Sonyscheint with the display clearly Vorpsrung to have hard of the practicality of with to judge - Joystick / Tousch screen concept?

Yes, the HF 100 s.kompaktesten, but the other cameras are not synonymous Rieß have the built in HDD disadvantages? (Noise, Störanfälligket ...)

Sony 5.1 Can record, although from my equipment I am very bad at this issue ...??

Most importantly ... are large differences in archiving / editing s.meinem iMac to expect? Take s.nicht ....

As last another question ... a friend of my travels anch United States ... it will have the camera (no preference which one) because for me to buy? Worth the price difference (and with what can be expected?), Despite:

- Warranty?
- Technical specifications (PAL / NTSC; different resolution 60 instead 50i, Charger, etc.)?

Thanks to your help I hope to really be asked direct questions, which mainly s.Besitzer the cameras turn and perhaps one or other synonymous help when these cameras are so often in the final selection will be ...

Best thanks! rison mfg



Antwort von Jan:

No. of the three cameras you will Disappointments. There are cameras all balanced with little weaknesses.

For each model going into detail brings nothing, since a - a function the other has not and vice versa, which in turn is a small percentage of users really important or not.

From your opening post to close (there were no specific requirements) are all three models are well suited, whether hard drive (long recording times without anything extra to pay) or flash memory (for user with the camera around but often harder to include less and less want to pay) you are better suited - lies in your decision.

90% of consumer auto eh filmmakers are filmmakers, because what is very rare movement. The users we have to thank a headphone output, regular accessory shoe, manual Tonaussteuerung a Viewfinder, manual shutter and aperture are now rare.

The problem is often its own! Decision (from fear to take the wrong). I have in store for me, unfortunately, every day, often there are two competitors for Choice and the customer can not decide. Then how silly any function of the camcorder analyzed (without the normal customer would ever use or would see the differences ..)

At the end is not a camcorder purchased and the decision postponed.

I'm out ...

VG
Jan



Antwort von Jogi:

@ rison,
Jan has already written about everything. From me to make a comment ... I advise them s.Camcorders in the U.S. to buy, because NTSC. This is the Resolutionnochmals in the basement. (NTSC 480x640) (576x720 PAL)



Antwort von Markus73:

"Jogi" wrote: NTSC. This is the Resolutionnochmals in the basement. (NTSC 480x640) (576x720 PAL)
Not quite: NTSC 720 * 480. Although the lower Resolutionnormalerweise the smaller problem.

Regards,
Markus



Antwort von Jogi:

Sorry, Klar synonymous NTSC works with 720 horizontal pixels.



Antwort von rison:

Hi Jan,

and wife decided for me, just few minutes both held in the hand - and it is the Canon HF 100, would like to order, all the best thanks s.Euch for expert assistance, mfg rison