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Frage von cutterfeld:


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After numerous posts here I have read (thank you for the valuable information!) Are for me the following questions remain unresolved:
1. If my Hi8 recording (via RCA connector) with the DVD recorder (Tevion MD81335) and burn to DVD later this s.Computerbildschirm look, I'm pretty disappointed about the quality (eg, straight edges frayed kammartig). I have read the contributions so understood that with the difference between television and computer monitor connected (interlacing). Helps me but of the way Mark described above, for example, D8 camcorder or A / D converter and Firewire next or if they were additional expenses (a D8 camcorder is apparently synonymous more expensive than a DV camcorder) for nothing because of the described difference. I wish the film ultimately with laptop and beamer show.
2. I have dei DVD Recorder Hi8 camcorder recording from the choices SP EP XP and tried out on the DVD there are no differences (always around 7 Mbit / s). Why?

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Antwort von beiti:

The path on the AD converter is always beneficial when you encode even before corrections (color, brightness, etc.) wants to make.
If you only about 1:1, is man with a good DVD recorder similar results.
Whether the quality on the AD converter and software encoder in your case would be more visible, you can say bad. This one would have to know how good or bad the encoder in your DVD recorder is already working.

The shakiness of edges (jitter) is a typical effect of older analog recordings. On the other hand, helps the intermediate switching a TBC (Time Base Corrector). Sowas is available as a separate device, built into the Hi8 camcorder or incorporated into the AD converter (unfortunately very expensive).

If you're with "kammartig frayed" However, the Halbbildversatz (staggered rows in the fields of motion picture) think it is a completely different problem. If you take the pictures necessarily want to perform on a laptop, you should either deinterlace before (ie from the fields full calculated so that the ridges disappear), or a player use of the ordinary from deinterlaces implements (eg PowerDVD). The latter has the advantage that the proportions are shown correctly, many simpler software player show the picture a bit squashed in the Height (keyword square / rectangular pixels).

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Antwort von FrankB. nicht eingelogt:

"Anonymous" wrote:
1. If my Hi8 recording (via RCA connector) with the DVD recorder (Tevion MD81335) and burn to DVD later this s.Computerbildschirm look, I'm pretty disappointed about the quality


This makes it synonymous not so! If you have to restore the analogy - if you like Hi8 remains because not much else, you should see the S-Video (Hosidenbuchse) path. That is, a Hosidenkabel plus additional audio connection. Here you have to have an improvement effect of the recorded image.

Frank

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Antwort von beiti:

Before you try something new, playing the movie times with PowerDVD or some other good software player. Maybe your quality problems so already solved.

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Antwort von Markus:

"Frank" wrote: ... you should see the S-Video (Hosidenbuchse) path. [...] Here you have to have an improvement effect of the recorded image.
This difference is so minimal that he s.Consumer TVs often not recognizable.

"Frank" wrote: "An unnamed guest wrote:
1. If my Hi8 recording (via RCA connector) with the DVD recorder (Tevion MD81335) and burn to DVD later this s.Computerbildschirm look, I'm pretty disappointed about the quality

This makes it synonymous not so!

Exactly. You look at video recordings are not s.Computermonitor, but preferably s.Television. ;-)

Learn More:
Video recordings s.Computermonitor not look good

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Antwort von Frank B.:

"Mark" wrote:
This difference is so minimal that he s.Consumer TVs often not recognizable.


After my experience is the difference in quality of CVBS YC to YC of greater than about Firewire.

Frank

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Antwort von Markus:

Theory provides a worse Resolutionals Composite Y / C, but in practice, many devices (especially in the consumer area) the potential reserves do not.

Synonymous times I had the case that with a cheap recorder SVHS Y / C output image a slight error had not occurred to s.Compositeanschluss. The Geizzeit thankfully, that it's such inferior equipment there! This was the case exactly the opposite, ie, Y / C was even worse than composite. The next unit, it may be quite different.

Other reasons for differences in quality could have different cable (quality and length) to be. Even if a cable through a magnetic field leads polluted or not, makes a difference.

May I ask which devices or combinations of these differences were apparent?

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Antwort von cutterfeld:

"Mark" wrote:
May I ask which devices or combinations of these differences were apparent?


Actually, wherever I direct comparison was possible. For instance in analog transmission of a SonyVX 1000 on an S-VHS Recorder of Panasonic FS 88. Both devices do I use but no longer. Also with DVD recording via DVD recorder for analog playback s.einem or Casablanca, I am out and once again have used.
I give you right that the difference in normal video recordings are not so obvious is. But if you test a few pictures, color bars or finely patterned templates transmits remembers mans already clear.
Given that many cheap consumer FBAS Television only - and have RGB inputs (via Scart), many use only the most devices also s.den existing CVBS output for image control. I have looked for such purpose a control TBC Enhancer of Fa Electronic Design relatively cheap at Ebay procured. The device converts signals YC player to RGB, with the help of a special adapter cable s.jeden RGB capable scart on Television can be recorded. This gives a composite connection to a very significant leap. Moreover, one can with such a device yet to make a variety of settings s.Picture and relatively well einjustieren. The smoothing of jitter and dropouts from analogue material is another positive side effect. The latter comes only with me but still rare because I hardly restore or analog material must consider.

Gruß Frank

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Antwort von Frank B.:

... Crap, is not logged again!

The previous post is of me, logically,

Frank

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Antwort von Hans Clasen:

[quote = "beiti"] If you take the pictures necessarily want to perform on a laptop, you should either deinterlace before (ie from the fields full calculated so that the ridges disappear) ...

how do you do that?

... or a player use of the ordinary from deinterlaces implements (eg PowerDVD).

That's what I do (however preinstalled OEM version, not updated. If it's perhaps?)

Could it improve the quality s.Computermonitor when I made the VOB file a DivX file do?

Gruß, Hans (the first time had forgotten tologin)

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Antwort von Markus:

"Hans Clasen" wrote: Could it improve the quality s.Computermonitor when I made the VOB file a DivX file do?
Yes, but these höchstkomprimierte video file is then on the calculator regelrecht caught. A further processing (eg, burning a DVD-Video) is no longer possible. At least not without major disadvantages and loss of quality.

The question is always the same: What is with the video later and how should it be further processed (can)?

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