Newsmeldung von slashCAM: Hollywood: Expensive archiving of digital shooting of heidi - 29 Dec 2007 15:32:00 ber archiving of digital movie data shatters you always like the head - which institution holds s.längsten and remain readable? tape? hard drive? DVD? Everything other than optimal. The problem arises in the film industry in a particular degree, because not only have in Hollywood films so larger quantities, in a reasonable manner that, but then of course you want to be happy synonymous ensure that the films in 50 years and has views thus can be sold, such as during a 100th Birth or death day.
So far, as this NY Times article describes, even digital films in the form of 35mm-masters who are synonymous after 100 years still to be seen (or scanned, because then even if a viewer finds, is indeed synonymous again questionable ). But it's not just about the sheer durability, but as always, plays a major financial role. And here it will be interesting. Because the cost for the transfer of digital material on film, and the storage of the material thus obtained film seem much lower than those to be involved in an archiving the uncompressed digital data. The article in the above figures, which consist of a study by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences have come quite ludicrous and not at first sight to understand. Thus, it cost $ 12,514, a 4K digital master for a year to be archived, in comparison to only $ 1059 for a conventional photochemical version. The study itself ( "The Digital Dilemma") is unfortunately not online, so completely open, as these figures come together.
Digital archiving on a large scale is currently it seems not only impractical (eg because the copy data regularly or occasionally hard to put into operation should be), but still synonymous expensive. However, in the foreseeable future, namely the increasing displacement of the analog equipment with digital format, can be expected that the prices of 35mm Height copies in the go, while digital storage solutions really should be cheaper. Perhaps Hollywood is then afford it, all synonymous Outtakes for eventual repeal späterte recovery ...
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Antwort von DWUA:
Well,
Stones, parchment, celluloid and vinyl have been long and well.
How is it with the "digital Alsheimer" - in 100 years?
That one in Hollywood has always been happy in the stars intervenes
has, however, with less awareness program to do.
There are very big commercial interests in the background.
What will you have received?
Who decides what's worthy?
This choice is always the many generations
reserved. And it is for those about to determine what they are worth keeping
appears or not. They are synonymous her conservators have
to do what they are allowed.
;))
->
www.langzeitarchivierung.de
and others;)
ps
God can not ALL be repealed:
"The ravages of time" nagt constantly s.Allem.
Antwort von Stringer:
I estimated the amount of data to 6.4 terabytes in a 90 minutes film (4096x2048 x 24 (p) x 60 (sec) x 90 (min) x 3 (RGB) x 2 (bytes per Color)
uncompressed - how is that in today's disk prices cost $ 12,000? 7 Terabyteplaten to 300 euros per (x3 for my safety) would be ... (once)
Stringer
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
7 Terabyteplaten to 300 euros per (x3 for my safety) would be ... (once)
7 x 300 ¬ = 2,100 ¬ x 3 = 6,300 x ¬ 1.469 = 9.255,96 USD makes remaining USD ~ 2.700 / ~ 1840 ¬, which to a large extent still synonymous for Umkopieren and various other things such as wages, depreciation, software , insurance, taxes, etc. go out. An entirely normal business accounting ...
So what you'll find s.einem price of USD 12,000 is not justified? BG
Andreas
Antwort von Klaas:
in mind that the price for a storage of a year ... with the copy, it is not done ... but that is probably all be aware ...
gruß, klaas.
Antwort von DWUA:
Above all, it should not just go to Hollywood.
"Lack of money could lead to data loss ..."
An old radio contribution (2004) shows synonymous beyond the big cinemas
the problem even in the simplest conditions' on.
http://nestor.sub.uni-goettingen.de/nestor_on/browse.php?show=12
there
>
Article >
Lack of money could be ... > Click on the URL below ...
Antwort von Valentino:
However, in the foreseeable future, namely the increasing displacement of the analog equipment with digital format, can be expected that the prices of 35mm Height copies in the go, while digital storage solutions really should be cheaper.
So the bezfeifel I have very strong, the film so quickly is scarce and expensive. Despite it HDCAM since 1998, there were until now only a handful of German in this series Formart rotated.
The Tatort series are the best example here is tortz many Vorteiel of HD on S16 rotated. In the U.S. looks the same, only here the same on 35mm and will be rotated as srub series, Friends and Co will be rotated on 35mm, the 35mm look garnicht need.
What the article does not actually received, the backup to tape formats such as voodoo, HD D5 or HDCAM SR.
The best archiving is still the film after each color layer separately Tuesday to a B / W Negative ausbelichtet because the color of a single color fade differently.
Antwort von Stefan_:
In the U.S. looks the same, only here the same on 35mm and will be rotated as srub series, Friends and Co will be rotated on 35mm, the 35mm look garnicht need. Loud
Antwort von Valentino:
Ah ok, it was my fault've thought a great time for America Typical mix with white Panavision Magazines in a Making of view to have. But Super16 and a 4:3 picture, but there remains much left synonymous net. Does anyone actually know whether the new srub consequences then synonymous in the United States will be shown in HD (at Digibeta master rather than unwahscheinlich)
Antwort von darg:
I estimated the amount of data to 6.4 terabytes in a 90 minutes film (4096x2048 x 24 (p) x 60 (sec) x 90 (min) x 3 (RGB) x 2 (bytes per Color)
uncompressed - how is that in today's disk prices cost $ 12,000? 7 Terabyteplaten to 300 euros per (x3 for my safety) would be ... (once)
Stringer The bill with such a disk prices gillt perhaps Hinz and Kunz, their plates at Media Markt or here in the U.S. at Frys buy.
The whole thing is an industrial application, we shall present value that is tested to MIL standard hard disks or even higher. Just as an example of one of our machines costs a 60GB hard disk approximately $ 2100 .-. What are the costs with a guaranteed long-term stability and send 1TB disk and already we have the price ....... What we buy at Media Markt, the Committee of Seagate and Co, so synonymous only 3 or 5 years Ganarantie it. Moreover, that long-term digital storage to be maintained. Plattenscanns and preservation copies are the norm. Unfortunately, it is different than with analog media, where it is really just the air-conditioned control of the camp goes. It packs the content not only in a drawer, it must be remembered here that not only the old disks, but once synonymous to the driver ICs and the PCB of the plate.
The step into the digital age, the man, unfortunately, even by one leg and now we stumble in the years previously.
NASA has been no 30 years later to get hardware problems, which their old tapes of the moon missions are able to read. The Storry about this is that an electronic here in Silicon Valley, the deal made of his life when he and band Calculator which readers of the time could offer. I had my times Datasette and the C64 will lift :-)
Greeting
Axel, San Jose
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... I had my time to cancel Datasette ... ... I sell you my love - for a really good price-60GB hard drive ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von WoWu:
The study speaks incidentally of $ 104.28 per minute for video and 4K of $ 8.83 per minute for film.
The true for the Media Fritzen again probably not spectacular enough and then were in the NYT this gigantic amounts thereof, which is now every nachplappert.
You might want so again with the real numbers expected.
Antwort von PowerMac:
The prices come out just yet?
Antwort von WoWu:
wohin?
Antwort von PowerMac:
The Prices of you mentioned are those of the article.
Antwort von WoWu:
I was on the NYT article, which are given on an annual cost of $ 250 T! per film.
Antwort von WoWu:
Correction "only" $ 208,000
"... Pushes the cost of preservation to $ 208.569 a year,"
Antwort von PowerMac:
Now the link is no more!
