Frage von DgptI4:
Hello
I've got me just the Magix Video Deluxe 2007 Pros and bought my first movie with a Panasonic camcorder NV-GS180EG/EK rotated and imported. I have manual and filmed while the LCD monitor of the camera used. If I use the video camera on the chart, match the quality, everything is scharft, the colors are, of course, correct exposure, everything just fits. If I were in the video but Magix chart, the picture is too dark, it is blurred, the color and the lighting is shit. Now I do not know s.was this great loss of quality is. If he s.der Camera? On the program? On format?
Can someone please help me?
DgptI4
Antwort von Markus73:
Dubbing the DV footage from your camcorder, there is no loss, since only digital data is copied. Assuming that you have it done properly via firewire.
Regards,
Markus
Antwort von KSProduction:
Hello
I've got me just the Magix Video Deluxe 2007 Pros and bought my first movie with a Panasonic camcorder NV-GS180EG/EK rotated and imported. I have manual and filmed while the LCD monitor of the camera used. If I use the video camera on the chart, match the quality, everything is scharft, the colors are, of course, correct exposure, everything just fits. If I were in the video but Magix chart, the picture is too dark, it is blurred, the color and the lighting is shit. Now I do not know s.was this great loss of quality is. If he s.der Camera? On the program? On format?
Can someone please help me?
DgptI4 I can only agree with markus. Incidentally, still grateful for your help markus!
First of all you should really see that you have firewire of the cam in the pc go. the latest magix-video programs are in fact just over firewire directly to this program! the 2007 is a deluxe pre-predecessor. if the USB works should have an indication of USB version 2.0 HS (high speed) (if you would be too much and you have your PC have to extra to upgrade. then it might be synonymous to ensure that there is no quality loss is possible.
synonymous alternatively you could try the camera in the free program "Windows Movie Maker" and the single imported from magix from "magix ins" to import! perhaps the funzt yes immediately.
Antwort von masterseb:
Dubbing the DV footage from your camcorder, there is no loss, since only digital data is copied. wrong. Of course quality is lost as a dv-stream is already compressed to a certain prizentsatz. to render multiple synonymous makes this apparent. Not for nothing is uncompressed (avi) streams in PAL.
I think rather s.falsche camera settings in your instance. schau trotzdem s.fernseher once ev
Antwort von KSProduction:
Dubbing the DV footage from your camcorder, there is no loss, since only digital data is copied.
wrong. Of course quality is lost as a dv-stream is already compressed to a certain prizentsatz. to render multiple synonymous makes this apparent. Not for nothing is uncompressed (avi) streams in PAL.
I think rather s.falsche camera settings in your instance. schau trotzdem s.fernseher once ev the losses on the play but can not be so high it with the eye to see. The cam settings in your panasonic you can not influence. Seen thus, it is unlikely that the error s.camcorder or his preferences would be to look for.
Antwort von tommyb:
to render multiple makes this synonymous noticeable And only then synonymous.
The dubbing of digital data between camera and PC IS lossless (1:1) as long as these digital data is not changed.
Antwort von Markus73:
Dubbing the DV footage from your camcorder, there is no loss, since only digital data is copied.
wrong. No, not wrong.
Of course quality is lost as a dv-stream is already compressed And that applies both to the material on the tape as synonymous the exact same material that is after the capture on the PC takes place. Where is the copying of digital data loss? If I have a video file of hard drive C: to hard drive D: copy, then yes, it will not synonymous worse.
to render multiple synonymous makes this apparent. Who speaks here of rendering? That was it did not.
Regards,
Markus
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Masterseb
You're lying because really wrong and need to distinguish between a (real) data interface, such as FW and, for example, an interface on the "digitized" (analog) data (RGB, YBR) transferred. (SDI, HDMI, DP, etc.) It is then implemented a new code that is no longer necessarily be lossless.
Antwort von DgptI4:
The case should be different but if I say that I have a Firewire - Cables possess. The film I have on my old PC (XP) over to play, because the new Windows Vista PC will not recognize Firewire. (I am to solve this problem).
Nevertheless s.der transfer may now never lie because I do so via firewire on the old computer into Magix've imported.
Antwort von WoWu:
True, it's now can not lie .... the correct Ethernet cable between the calculator and clamped go.
Or on an external HD and then umstöpseln ....
Have fun ...
Antwort von DgptI4:
The changes but nothing s.der quality! Moreover, I see just that the image on the display but synonymous in Magix Movie Maker Totel zusammengequetscht is. (I have been in 4:3 format with movie function (ie bars above and below)). Is there a way Balkenim the program again to remove?
So far, however good, in spite of USB, Firewire, Magix, Movie Maker, or avi format, the picture on the camera is still better than the computer!?!
Antwort von WoWu:
Of poor quality was so far not been mentioned. Previously it was only a matter of how do I get a DV file without FW into a calculator.
If you are on your computer in XP are gone and now the file (as file) in your new calculator transferred between searched and nothing've made is that the quality of the camera comes.
Now you have time to think about the reasons why on your computer monitor looks worse than on the little camcorder screen. Time, quite apart from that all the images on a monitor look better Bonsai (subjectively).
How was your camcorder because setting and the camera images on anamorphic (16:9) recording?
Look in the instruction manual, which is subject to the stands.
Antwort von DgptI4:
Ok, that with the old / new computer, I explain very briefly again.
I have a new computer (Windows Vista). (The Firewire cable, I have been longer). Then I have an older computer (Windows XP). So I wanted the film via firewire into the Vista computer to play. But Vista does not recognize firewire cable! (Maybe it has other reasons synonymous, but the fact is: it recognizes the cable is not). Since Vista does not recognize firewire, I tried it at XP computer, and has since folded. Ese is therefore only a matter of the film that I get into Vista for Magix.
Basically, I am but a loss of quality between Computer-/Programmdisplay camera and display it. Point.
Now to WoWu:
Monitor is of ACER AL 1916
My camera can be used both as a 4:3 record synonymous 16:9
When my film was the setting 4:3 BUT with so-called KINO function (two black bars above and below)
With 4:3 and movie function is again a problem: The computer squeezes together the Picture -> solution would be off the beam when the Magix ever can. (Windows Movie Maker can not)
DgptI4
Antwort von Meggs:
Basically, I am but a loss of quality between Computer-/Programmdisplay camera and display it. Point.
The small camera display schönt the Picture shows it is often quite bright and naturgemaß in severely reduced Resolutionscheinbar sharper. Noise and blurring one usually sees only on a large screen. Computer monitors, especially LCD displays do exactly the opposite - the picture looks worse.
Closing but your camcorder s.einen Television s.and see this picture. Then play the video on the PC, burn DVD and not consider the result s.Television. With a sensible and reasonable Encorder MPEG settings should be almost no difference festellbar be.
Antwort von Markus73:
Basically, I am but a loss of quality between Computer-/Programmdisplay camera and display it. Point. This is not unusual: Any Studio looks bad on the camera display first times are still quite acceptable to good. Fuzziness and other defects are often only if you do it in reasonable size provides.
Regards,
Markus
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Any Studio looks bad on the camera display first times are still quite acceptable to good. Likewise, it is the Panasonic HDC-SD100 ...
Antwort von Meggs:
Likewise, it is the Panasonic HDC-SD100 ... Well, there are active video and Panasonic so synonymous shot an own goal when they see the camcorder for testing tasks.
Antwort von DgptI4:
Fuzziness and other defects are often only if you do it in reasonable size provides.
And how can we resolve the s.Computer. Probably not, because filmed is filmed, is not it?
Meanwhile I've ichs s.Television views. If it really is quite light, then adjusts the quality, but if dark, shall take immediate image noise. In addition, s.Television me during the film as a strange middle strip disturbed.
Antwort von Meggs:
There are already noise filter in the post, but perform no miracles. It is better if you are already in the recording too much electronic post-amplification avoid. Yes according to your camcorder, there are various possibilities. In principle it is always running on a darker scene in favor of the noise behavior beyond. Sometimes the recorded picture is really much brighter than the reality and it roars without end.
Antwort von DgptI4:
The recording took place in the forest instead, so the aperture was completely open, no more can I do to enough light to get into the building (which already carries amateur headlights into the woods)
Antwort von geschi:
wrong. Of course quality is lost as a dv-stream is already compressed to a certain prizentsatz. As you lying next to it completely but that the compression takes place at the HOST instead and not on the playing of digitized materials on the PC.
Antwort von Meggs:
The recording took place in the forest instead, so the aperture was completely open, no more can I do to enough light to get into the building (which already carries amateur headlights into the woods) That is clear. So how it looks, however, was not only the aperture fully open, but synonymous fully up the gain. If your camcorder now has the possibility of exposure to dark, he will just take back the gain, before he makes to the Aperture. The Picture is of course synonymous darker. Maybe you'll find there a better compromise between brightness and noise. Can you wonder of this method does not expect synonymous. The GS180 is not particularly sensitive to light halt.
Antwort von DgptI4:
And how can I turn down the gain? Miracle, I can of this camera certainly does not expect, that's for sure, but I wanted synonymous not just 9000 ¬ for a camera issue.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... how can I turn down the gain? ... To do this you will probably turn off the automatic and the Aperture or manual gain adjustments. As the camera goes s.deiner, clarifies a look at the manual.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von DgptI4:
DgptI4 has written the following: The recording took place in the forest instead, so the aperture was fully open ........... The aperture can only function with manual operation. So with automatic, I have not rotated and was still open, despite fully Aperture image noise exists. Does the manual still in the what with the gain hochaufgedrehten to do?
Antwort von Meggs:
I do not have a GS180, as you have time to read the manual. When there are Canon AE-Shift. With this feature you can automatically imply that the exposure lighter or darker. Makes it darker, will only gain back the times.
Antwort von Meggs:
Does the manual still in the what with the gain hochaufgedrehten to do? Noise is always only hochaufgedrehten Gain. If you are in a mode of film, in which only you can change the aperture, then the ne semiautomatic. You give the Aperture, which is automatically determined exposure time and gain (gain). Some camcorders can be fully manual exposure settings, ie aperture, exposure time and gain pretend. When your camcorder probably not. But perhaps he ne function like AE shift, which the exposure in general (not specifically the Aperture) makes dark, and so the gain back.
Antwort von DgptI4:
If your exposure time is synonymous with shutter says, I can tell you that the aperture was fully open and the shutter speed around 1 / 700 respectively. AE shift, there are not more (in the instructions is nothing confessed times. In the instructions, but not synonymous terms used). If the exposure but is darker, the recorded picture is darker car, right? And the quality is falling? At the very least will always said that too little light brings a blurred picture, the better the light, the better the image quality.
Me but just the idea that viellleicht a longer shutter speed synonymous even more light into the picture would bring.
Antwort von Markus73:
Hello,
the GS180 displays the in manual mode (and depending on the setting synonymous in automatic mode), everything wonderful: The gain value appears immediately after s.den aperture value. If the aperture fully open, will further "opening" the Gainwerte increased (display in dB). If no signal amplification is used, this display is not synonymous.
Regards,
Markus
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Shutter speed approximately 1/700...Mir but just the idea that viellleicht a longer shutter speed synonymous even more light into the picture would bring ... Genau so ist es! Normally, one turns with 1 / 50 second (the exposure time in the video world is not so selected as desired as in the photo world) and 1 / 700 second is quite unusual - certainly in an apparently not too bright surroundings.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Meggs:
If the exposure but is darker, the recorded picture is darker car, right? And the quality is falling? At the very least will always said that too little light brings a blurred picture, the better the light, the better the image quality.
Of course you should have a closing time of at least 1 / 50 in low light.
In low light the image quality decreases - that is true. When the Camera tried the little light electronical issues, is image noise. The Picture will be brighter while, but noisy.
Antwort von DgptI4:
Opening "the Gainwerte increased (display in dB). In this case, it should be with me but the gain setting, because I see all in the manual mode of the series after this:
The display left, I can choose:
1. Settings: AWB (automatic Wießabgleich); icon bulb (indoor shooting mode); sun symbol (external recording mode),
white balance adjustment mode 2. Setting: Shutter Speed:
1 / 700 3. Setting: Aperture: eg:
Open including for example:
6 db Grease marks were about the setting of the rotation. Leige I correct, the gain in db is displayed and setting it to zero, is the gain prakitsch off?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Leige ... I will correct the gain in db is displayed and setting it to zero, is the gain prakitsch off? ... Thus, Mark's described above, it's is the instruction manual, it's true.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Daigoro:
2. Setting: Shutter Speed: 1 / 700
....
Grease marks were about the setting of the rotation. 1/SIEBENHUNDERT shutter speed?
Machst du hummingbird photos?
Antwort von Markus73:
Leige I correct, the gain in db is displayed and setting it to zero, is the gain prakitsch off? How is it, yes. Little experience on my part (the GS180 had synonymous): Gainwerte to 6 or 9 dB usually produce no significant adverse impacts, then it starts over, it can be seen.
Regards,
Markus
Antwort von DgptI4:
Thanks, now I understood what it matters.
1) @ Mark: If I were in the 4:3 mode with movie recording function and it will display in the Magix watch, the Picture zusammengequetscht. The bars above and below them twice as thick as normal, so as almost "double" 16:9. Is there a way to shrink the bars?
2) Then the following: If I am correct, true picture only s.Television consider how you can because the film really s.Computer edit, if you're not sure is how it looks after s.Television. Except there's the possibility the computer anschlißen.oder Television s.den there is another possibility?
3) The same problem is synonymous with the Camera Display: How do I see during the shooting, whether the picture really looks like it s.Television or in "reality" will look like and whether perhaps in retrospect image noise will be present when the display the whole picture was different?
Since we can not 100% on LCD display screen and leave?
