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Frage von Peter Storm:


Beginners Can I be with a Canon XH A1 someone explain how the with the mini-DV tapes work?

How is the end of the tape recording on the set? I can tell the camera, go to end of recording. That is pretty clear, if it is a fresh tape involved.

But what if the tape was recorded earlier and I s.Anfang new start. Where is then the end. At the end of the occupation of new or the old s.Ende occupation? Where and how will the end of the tape documented?

How is the handling? Is there such thing as complete deletion of the band?

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Antwort von robl21f:

Hello

1) end-search key (Manual page 31)

and / or

2) the band at once completely receptive and objectively with closed lid can go through (time code is written consistently ... ggf time code can then s.der respective agency quoted)

and / or

3) band play only once

4) remove by re-recording (but it does not ;-)) ... see point 3))

gruss rob

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Antwort von Peter Storm:

Why is used because the tapes several times not? I want to but the video does not last forever on the tapes and store of view there. After cutting the film is yet another medium (eg DVD). Why do we need because his old Rohaufnahmen as yet?

And for multiple use because you have to be just an archive with film snippets on hard drive or DVD. I see that right?

"robl21f" wrote: Hello

1) end-search key (Manual page 31)
...

gruss rob


This button, I know. But what is the end? The end of all filming on the tape or the end of the second round, before the end of Gesamtaufaufzeichnung (first pass) is located.

How do the recorder, where the end of the tape is? Try it from or where he is from somewhere?

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Antwort von Jan:

robl21f thinks advance.

Now your pictures have a very good low-compressed raw format (5:1), when you burn it to DVD, and receive a harsher compressed MPEG 2 raus.

Now the DVD will soon die, 2009, the Blue Ray disc market domination take over no later than 2010. Then you copy the recordings to MPEG 2 MPEG 4, the losses there again.

Yes, you can clearly synonymous DVD's on a Blue Ray machine (because it is backwards compatible) reflect only the old DVD is not really tenable.

DVD Media statistics have only a lifetime of 3-7 years, which of MiniDV tapes is a good use (annual rewinding, stored upright, not too large magnets & humidity)
significantly higher.

End Search? but is usually the first place is not recorded on the tape, End Search is working but not always, eg after a gap on the tape

VG
Jan

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Antwort von robl21f:

hello again

naja, each as he likes ... sure you can still get your bands play several times over, unless you are free ...

only: s.was gone away! irrevocably! (and for those who have accidentally deleted files or the disk has abandoned the spirit knows what I'm talking about, probably the then still has the tapes!) - bezgl dvd-jan archiving has already said everything ...

and b) not later than when you reach the band played several times on the first error and dropouts did - and of course, just when the little under the Christmas tree the first steps or make Schwieger mama in the silver wedding cake in the ausschnitt falls - you will be synonymous the saving rate to resign ... and now do not say: "Yes because I have to take new course!" ... papperlapap

bezgl search-key ... you have the cam, you have the manual - read (as I said s. 31) - cassette insert - try ... this is even synonymous with the same tape several times ;-)) ... even with page-long explanations should be handling itself can be sampled - and then you know what you do

gruss rob

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"Jan" wrote: (...) Now, your shots a very good low-compressed raw format (5:1) (...)

When DV is the thing. This is about is HDV ...

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Antwort von r.p.television:

1.) for HDV tapes should be recorded only once, because a band office, s.der the camcorder with the previous record for longer in the body break was happy with the new Studio creates an unsightly Dropout. Exception is if you like, for example, at a concert, the tape can pass through without a break. 5 times more often than I would this process be synonymous but not repeated.

2. What do you want with an XH A1 if you have material to DVD archiving want? With guns to shoot sparrows? I would not even DV to DVD archive.

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Antwort von tv-man_sh:

"Peter Storm" wrote: Why is used because the tapes several times not?
The prices?

"Peter Storm" wrote: I want to but the video does not last forever on the save tapes ...
Backups are always good.

"Peter Storm" wrote: After cutting the film is yet another medium (eg DVD). Why do we need because his old Rohaufnahmen as yet?

The joke is that it is the medium of DVD as long as does not exist yet. If in the first 3-5 years of self-media is no longer legible, the clamor large.
The belief the data on DVDs are safe for eternity, because it is a digital medium, is a misconception.

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Antwort von Login_vergessen:

... with few Euros for the tape's a vicious, I would do, and my original photographs to send to Nirvana.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Hi Peter
clearly can be seen on DVD archive. But you have to then yes unkompremiert and gestückelt the videos to ensure no loss s.Quali to have.
I know not whether it is synonymous with HDV is around 13 GB per 60min but it is as much about a normal GB SD Mini DV.

Among the markers - I would say a XH A1 a little pity for the function. Since you yes but not unnecessarily out with your and her or want to rewind? (In Per where the use of tape or marker on the tape for faster finding of scenes will be used like this still be ok but then sein.Hierzu extra devices are used only for the cut are used)

Conclusion should be a tape recording inside, being on the move calculator (preferably with a "Capture bitch") and then stored.
Someone of a XH A1 can be synonymous but which have money to buy more tapes, right?

Personal Note (please do not angry sehn) unfortunately I can not understand what a private user XH A1 is a must buy, but making this again and again finds that it gives the people too much money appears to have ;-( So here is my account number
"Donation Account 444, I'm poorer than you ... I accept checks, Paypal and cash in every German bank) -:
For me it's like a Hayabusa / R1 with half helmet and jeans for the ice cream parlor to ride ..... unfortunately from experience already seen such things are noticed. I just tell the UNICEF would be happy about the money .... but what I know already.

To adopt Kopfschüttelnd
B. DeKid

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Antwort von Peter Storm:

Even more times to understand:

I take a lot of material on mini-DV tape to create and then by cutting a film. I have the film finished, but the raw material is superfluous. The film is ready but because I can and make a new.

Incidentally, I use the camera even professionally, synonymous if I do not have idea about the topic. As a tour to Scotland, we want to house and area shots, which then serve to illustrate. And this seems to me to be quite good camera and the future of photographic material (from today's perspective).

As I understand it. Blue Ray has just about the HD DVD (blue laser) triumphed. The normal DVD (red laser) is unchanged next.

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Antwort von Peter Storm:

"B. DeKid" wrote: Hi Peter
...
Personal Note (please do not angry sehn) unfortunately I can not understand what a private user XH A1 is a must buy, but making this again and again finds that it gives the people too much money appears to have ;-( So here is my account number
"Donation Account 444, I'm poorer than you ... I accept checks, Paypal and cash in every German bank) -:
For me it's like a Hayabusa / R1 with half helmet and jeans for the ice cream parlor to ride ..... unfortunately from experience already seen such things are noticed. I just tell the UNICEF would be happy about the money .... but what I know already.

To adopt Kopfschüttelnd
B. DeKid


For this a hint: A smoker smoke per year for about two XH A1. And there is the Camera but durable. And may be synonymous with the car a lot of money spent. In this sense, synonymous spending a question of priorities. And most of our business background, the advertising expenditure.

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Antwort von robbie:

Believe us, Peter, we are still raw more than you on the various tapes at most, and we do not throw them away.

What do you do when you do in your role as a tour you think it would look nice, a film with the most diver highlights of your trips be designed? Then you have no high quality raw material. Schade, and just because you a ¬ 9 for three tapes were too much ...
And now let's face it ... to ¬ 3 per tape are not soo much ;)...

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Peter Storm" wrote: As a tour to Scotland, we want to house and area shots, which then serve to illustrate.


Degree because it's all more interesting pictures to use.

Once a film about a specific place, then perhaps a 'tour' movie with the highlights of different places.
Taste it time to shoot something - and is certainly more expensive which is new to rotate than the 3-4 Euro fuer ne MiniDV cassette or greater.

Edit:
Furthermore, with one time and ongoing experience (at least usually) better, what the cut is concerned.
Since you are half a year after his often unhappy with the finished film, because it's could do better.

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Antwort von Peter Storm:

I is not about the price of the tapes, but about how this organization is run. In that respect, your comments very helpful. So should I cancel but the tapes.

I do digital photography for many years in Scotland for catalog and advertising. The equipment in this price exceeds the XH A1. Here views but I like the pictures and just imagine the "good" and useful to the archive. Everything else (70%) will be deleted immediately and disappears in nirvana.

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"Peter Storm" wrote:
For this a hint: A smoker smoke per year for about two XH A1.

As you describe, however, an extreme chain smoker ... I have until the end of August last year smoked (not chain) and of mb on the menu abandoned. During the month of spare I do not take a hundred one.
BG, Andreas

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Antwort von Login_vergessen:

Hi Peter,

the photos you can not compare with video recordings. A bad picture is just useless and can therefore be deleted, of course. But on a tape is your raw material, which is often just in a different composition can be used. This has been so synonymous have described here. There can be different reasons or possibilities for a multiple-type analysis. The archive would not eat hay, and one day you will look either that you have your material, or totärgern that you no longer have.

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Antwort von robl21f:

hey leute ....

... then let him now but now the so-handle as he says! everyone does his hardest (= memorable) experience is itself

Almost all of us know that the day will come s.dem he will remember s.diesen thread :-)

rob

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

@ Peter
Now that of course I would like to apologize if I was you Meihnung they (Cam) uses as a private toy.
Unfortunately, however, synonymous to the Still Image to your equipment only to suspect that you seem very highest quality.
Whether your work is synonymous but are better times I venture to doubt.
Go from the times of which I certainly did know (especially what photography is concerned) and I still Eos 1 V Eos prefer a digital (synonymous when new 1DsIII I find quite nice) but a EOS 400D tute for INet photographs or snapshots synonymous. My EOS 1 and my Bessa and my Mamiyas but Durchlichtscanner synonymous with a quite fast Digitalisiert and times you should see my statements here in the forum by reading, you probably fall on me a Canon XL 1s perfectly acceptable as a video rate, which for my activities synonymous enough.

Sorry but I meet in my field often refer to people as Fullys in 3-5000 euros worth of driving but not yet have a Wheelie of 10 m to create the same when browsing and MTX / SM.
And for such people, I have no understanding.

Accordingly, I can only say good luck and success in your further Because Mr. Storm and Mini Dv s are storage tapes and should only be used once.

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Antwort von r.p.television:

"B. DeKid" wrote: @ Peter
Now that of course I would like to apologize if I was you Meihnung they (Cam) uses as a private toy.
Unfortunately, however, synonymous to the Still Image to your equipment only to suspect that you seem very highest quality.
Whether your work is synonymous but are better times I venture to doubt.
Go from the times of which I certainly did know (especially what photography is concerned) and I still Eos 1 V Eos prefer a digital (synonymous when new 1DsIII I find quite nice) but a EOS 400D tute for INet photographs or snapshots synonymous. My EOS 1 and my Bessa and my Mamiyas but Durchlichtscanner synonymous with a quite fast Digitalisiert and times you should see my statements here in the forum by reading, you probably fall on me a Canon XL 1s perfectly acceptable as a video rate, which for my activities synonymous enough.

Sorry but I meet in my field often refer to people as Fullys in 3-5000 euros worth of driving but not yet have a Wheelie of 10 m to create the same when browsing and MTX / SM.
And for such people, I have no understanding.

Accordingly, I can only say good luck and success in your further Because Mr. Storm and Mini Dv s are storage tapes and should only be used once.


Why? Can everyone buy what he can afford and like!
This is good for the economy, jobs, and last but not least the progress is not stagnant. And the quality of the recordings can only get better, regardless of the filmmaker's talent.
Just because Germany is the envy of the country is number 1, I would not be ashamed, a privately XH A1 use. I got my XL H1 even in my private holiday with them, as the XH A1, I have not had.
Why should I use for Private's high quality of the refrain?
If it were a wrong look, this is his problem. Not mine.
I work so hard for my money.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"rptelevision" wrote: And the quality of the recordings can only get better, regardless of the filmmaker's talent.

Not necessarily.
All the buttons to adjust so must first be served. Because I would rather more confidence in the right automation program s.der HV30 to choose (it still has twice as many as the A1) and thus will ultimately be perhaps better-looking video production.
edit: <- this is not meant ironically! I see quite easily NEN difference if I use my camera s.einen times totally unexperienced FORM to the movies with me a tiny bit of experience to date.

But that's not so.
Go to the archiving and synonymous when the Comparison photography has lagged somewhat - you would not synonymous yes' webtauglichen '(800x600 or so) to archive digital images, but the' original '(at 7 a.m. to 9 p.m. megapixels) take.

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

@ Peter:
tapes are so ridiculously cheap, as is worth a multiple dubbing not. So just a space problem, and fortunately they are still small synonymous :-)
I hold with very few exceptions, everything that I've s.Originalbändern. If a project is finished, this will also be on one or two tapes and so on in full quality.
The fact that I (like most common) only a small percentage of the collected footage in the final take, are on the archive tapes still quite a few minutes unververwendetes but usable material. Even so, I throw nothing away.
I have only once many years ago lost important recordings. The entire material was useful to a DVD have been processed, the two tapes, then plays. On the "back-up DVD," are perhaps 10 minutes to read, the rest is broken. This has made me extremely cautious.
And a DVD as backup medium, I do not trust a tenth of the storage capacity of a good band, of the loss of quality time apart.
BG, Andreas

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Antwort von Peter Storm:

Many thanks for your tips.
I think I now synonymous the raw tapes will hold.
But only with other experiences, we might as well start right.
In addition, I believe that you can learn everything. That is why I see this is not so closely with my so far very little film experience. And if someone else has a bad experience has made, I need not even make synonymous.
So I will be here in the forum even more stupid questions.

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Antwort von Jan:

Oh HDV - read all about.

For HDV but does not always end or Search?

Na dann erst recht!

What did you do for a DVD?

The raw with the MPEG 2 transport stream or a 576i PAL DVD?

The 576i PAL DVD resolution anyway you away, Blue Ray, you can work with 1080i, Blue Ray synonymous allowed Tonoptionen quite different than a normal DVD.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Jan" wrote: ... When HDV is not an end but eh Search or ...
That should already work, only when the cassette from the camera times and made wiedereingelegt was to "end search" no longer (unless the tape would have been an info-chip and the camcorder supports it). That is exactly the same as HDV with DV.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Peter Storm:

In my XH A1, I can tape the purely arbitrary and take out the blue and synonymous sites between the shots, the camera will always end with the end of the search button.
Meanwhile synonymous, I have noticed that the camera is a bit confused when I forward the tape to record something new, but not to the total intake of the wider tape.
The confusion is, if I get the latest scene s.das s.weitesten rear part is connected. Then she finds synonymous the absolute end of all recordings on the tape.

I save at the moment - as beginners with a few test shots - all on the mini-DV tape or on the hard drive.
I think that I have the final storage in 1080i in MPEG1 and MPEG2 Picture Sound on normal (red) DVD can store. Unfortunately I have no Blue Ray DVD drive.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

@ Rptelevision

I was surprised to sehn that you quoted the full text searched. Kenn ich Dir not of course it is not jealousy but only a statement of my hand. I admit I am synonymous too often benefit from it. Only, I often stop and have noticed I find it unfortunate halt. The trade certainly benefited me is synonymous aware and I can describe it as good.
It should rather be just a comment not a reproach. If it wants to be understood, of course, I apologize.

@ Peter
Sorry if I'm going to close came just as I had the feeling it is time to mention them.
But I do see that you insightful show "I will now not the fault begehn the others are once again driving" is the theme so clarified.
To "Then I will continue to stupid questions ..." a hint.
THERE ARE NO stupid questions. Only stupid people are not stupid questions or just Antworten.Stelle So next to each question you need to get you safely and that the synonymous here you will be happy to help.

@ all

Please see my comments on some issues are not as neid. Since I have no need for this. I put on my travels abroad only repeatedly noted how well it goes U.S. HERE, and find it very unfortunate that a run on non-essential consumer goods, we sometimes need to look at our fellow human disguises.
This should also always be considered with.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Peter Storm" wrote: In my XH A1, I can tape the purely arbitrary and take out ... the camera is always the end with the End Search button ...
This is surprising because other cameras is not possible (for the XH-A1 Canon loud statement of the way, are not synonymous). But even more gratifying to you that it still works!

Gruß Bernd E.

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