Frage von Daca:
As the ass, between two haystacks threatens to starve, because he is none of both can decide, I hang on the net for days to find out if I (as a second camera handy) the Panasonic GS 500 or the SonyHC1 growth should. I'm really just a question of whether it makes sense, with an eye to the future HD-eyed, as long as I am in SD-nest sauwohl feel. My editing program (FinalCutPro) can be HD, but the peripherals (monitor, television) are not. And my skills are frozen in SD ...
If the man with Sonyausschliesslich in SD format rotates, then the image is that of the Panasonic's equal? Because somehow it is reassuring to know that in the HD world, if you wanted to be synonymous when it's not actually doing it?
Geb 'with the times but a decisive push, the final argument must be her!
Regards,
Daca
Antwort von Chezus:
Ich hab mich HD initially decided against it because to me is still too immature.
Ich hab mir was synonymous not just bought a DVD player simply because there still too many videos on the market. Furthermore, it ran quite well. The quality of the pictures was synonymous at that time a lot better.
As long as HD does not yet> 50% has taken over, I think that it is for "nichtvollprofis" hardly worth it.
Ultimately it must be everybody know yourself.
Should not every so synonymous in my opinion. I see the way the
Antwort von ruessel:
For me, HDV 100% ...... synonymous than SD to recommend no matter! I think the devices have never been immature, but the calculator with the editing software have something in HDV needed .....
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Ich hab mich HD initially decided against it because to me is still too immature. You mean HDV.
H (!) D (!) Is something else again.
I would just not in new technology investments. Is better for HDV / HD projects that the equipment for rent.
And if you simply could not lay down and wants a long lasting, flexible, well-established, scalable and not expensive solution looking for TO, it should fall back on 16/S16.
This can be synonymous evaluations to create Blowups or 2K, if the pay.
Antwort von Daca:
H (!) D (!) Is something else again ... not in new technology to invest ... HDV / HD equipment rental projects ... ... who does not wish to lay down ... should rely on 16/S16 ... evaluations to 2K or Blowups create ... ... thank you, this was finally a clear delivery! I go now to buy my new camera ... uh, what again because ....?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
I go now to buy my new camera ... uh, what again because ....? Well, the Arriflex 416 makes it a very good impression, right? ;-)
Greeting
Bernd E.
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Achso you wanted to buy only one tip and a clear answer on top?
If you want to know what camera (which format) you should buy, there is only one clear answer:
"This is your own decision according to your individual criteria and requirements!"
Personally, I suspect a format battle (actually, it is already in progress) of the Manufacturer. Each quarter, a new HDV format out ... and starts the whole s.Schluss Terce with "HDV +", "Super-HDV" or what I do again. I would wait ... and rent, provided that a high Resolutionnötig is.
And who produces short films for example, and thus (synonymous) into movies wants to be hired on a production (<-!...) 16mm cameras are still not the worst idea. And there is even a well-maintained synonymous Eclair ACL, or something.
Antwort von WeiZen:
whether I (as a second camera handy) the Panasonic GS 500 or the SonyHC1 growth should. HC-1, HDV and my shooting at the output via the IEEE, the very good good Downkonvert switch to DV. The result is always better than just DV and true 16:9, it is at the origin. And you have the recordings in HDV and then to speak for themselves.
Antwort von Daca:
I think that I apply for a "real computer experts" will decide and the hybrids are left on the shelf. If in five years' None know what SD was times and all related equipment anywhere in Africa on a landfill vergammeln, then yes ...
Have already, surreptitious Michel, with the gallop of the electronics industry can no longer keep a normal purse!
Gruss,
Daca
Antwort von Daca:
... Downkonvert to DV ... The result is always better than just DV ... Is it really?
and true 16:9, it is in the origin ... "True" 16:9 makes the Panasonic synonymous.
Antwort von Duisburger:
You want 800 euros in an obsolete technology to invest?
This old technique mastered the HDR-HC1 and HDR-HC3 also, and I do not know any SD camcorder in its price range (1000-1400 euro) of the SD is better than these two HDV camcorder.
If you ever want to buy outdated technology then enough synonymous thee a camcorder in the 200 to 300 euro class.
Antwort von Daca:
You want 800 euros in an obsolete technology to invest? Well, if I was not at the same time, the second screen, the need for cutting small tube and the monitor to the movies necessary Päsentieren TV (imagine: a synonymous tube device) wants to exchange, comes HDV ultimately very expensive. Somehow, everything is always a question of money ...
This old technique mastered the HDR-HC1 and HDR-HC3 also, and I do not know any SD camcorder in its price range (1000-1400 euro) of the SD is better than these two HDV camcorder.
If you ever want to buy outdated technology then enough synonymous thee a camcorder in the 200 to 300 euro class. If the two of you mentioned Sony's HDR-not better in SD than an outdated "Only SD camcorder to the higher class, and if synonymous a 200-300 ¬-class"-SD devices, "enough", then deduziere I razor-sharp, that between the video image of a ¬ 200-SD Camera and that of the HC3 in DV mode, no significant difference, right? :-)
Gruss,
Daca
Antwort von Duisburger:
Short version: If you are not at least 1000 euros in a HDR-HC3 want to invest then take a "class 200-300 ¬" SD device.
Antwort von Daca:
The SonyHDR-HC1 costs 1400 ¬ to 800 ¬ Panasonic scarce (Internet Store Prices). Crispy ¬ 600 difference for the same SD quality and nearly identical features! I think that the better HDV and HD picture quality is only really worthwhile if you with all of its material "move" will (and can). For the demanding amateur "HD has also the great disadvantage of the high compression. That will Riesenschlamassel cutting with effects. Uncompressed HD is just something quite nice. But since you have already played in an entirely different league.
Gruss,
Daca
Antwort von Duisburger:
Look the difference between SD and HDV at times, perhaps you will understand that I never again will shoot in SD.
Yet another advantage - if you are from HDV material to an SD, you can create without any loss of quality synonymous only excerpts from HDV material.
Have you already read a bit:
http://www.fxsupport.de/
http://www.hennek-homepage.de/video.htm
Antwort von WeiZen:
For the demanding amateur "HD has also the great disadvantage of the high compression. That will Riesenschlamassel cutting with effects. Uncompressed HD is just something quite nice. But since you have already played in an entirely different league. Sorry, if you write like this, unfortunately, has no depth of knowledge.
Antwort von Daca:
Sorry, if you write like this, unfortunately, has no depth of knowledge. Magst probably right ...
@ Duisburger: The "Hennek" I started through times. Very good tip. Thank you. Will my decision until the end of this Lektürte probably have to postpone.
Gruss,
Daca
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
Incidentally, the Hennek is that each of the Forum against HDV video aufgemischt and steadfast as a rock in the surf until it own HC-3 in the finger and got with his opinion the opposite is handled, ie was convinced.
Bezgl. the effects, keying times here with HDV material.
Materal of my FX-1, gekeyt of jörg. Watching is a very mobile yellow trike which changes color several times, within a top Reißschwenks. It should be noted that the yellow Audi A2 in the background is still yellow!
Antwort von Daca:
The file could my VLC player does not open. Mac?
(The HC3 like me synonymous extremely good. Unfortunately, they do not have Microphone output. And when HC1 opens the Kasettenlade very stativfeindlich down)
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
habs tested before posting, the clip streams yet. Windows Media File, not MAC.
That with the HC-3 should be yes no recommendation. Although for the Quick and Dirty film is not bad, what LowLight concerns synonymous. Had the opportunity yesterday so a little too exprementieren.
Antwort von Daca:
I'm quite and even Mac. Windows out of area ...
HC-3 ... ... for the Quick and Dirty film ... not bad ... You mean the part of all ranges to a hamburger-eating thick Germans MacDonald's after closing time (LowLight) to film?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
The file could my VLC player does not open. Mac? The VLC player is synonymous with me s.Mac just an error, but there are alternatives: the Safari browser, QuickTime Player and Windows Media Player could easily open the file. Lad you for simply trying the Flip4Mac plug-in download, then work it!
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Daca:
Thanks for the tip, Bernd has worked!
Much, however, I can with the clip does not start.
(Motor tricycles with a thick and wild men, I found it always silly :-)
@ Wheat: you explain me what should I look?
Antwort von wolfgang:
Moin,
Incidentally, the Hennek is that each of the Forum against HDV video aufgemischt and steadfast as a rock in the surf until it own HC-3 in the finger and got with his opinion the opposite is handled, ie was convinced.
Well, that is about in the video venue in countless threads to read. And Bruno was extremely colorful hats driven, and early user HDV almost massively tortured. Some of the discussion with the 400 at the time - maybe.
Him today as HDV guru to act, which can be synonymous only the ignorant do, and coaxed me that at least a massive grin.
But let's be fair: he has obviously learned a massively! And his website is quite well done - with a lot of information gathered.
:)
Antwort von Axel:
Geb 'with the times but a decisive push, the final argument must be her! The final push into the abyss HDV (synonymous me the cliff is crumbling beneath the feet) is perhaps the self-examination.
How important is a high resolution?
It is unquestionably the only positive criterion of HDV. By now you should have read so much that I have a list of behavior in a direct comparison of both formats can have.
Yet another example of professional practice. Yesterday, the football-fan-Doku of Axel and Lars Pape, "Why half past three?" We gala premiere. Produced to the movies on a HD DLP (the large 2k, on the synonymous regular movies are shown) is projected to be. I asked the director / cameraman, why the movie in SD (as in "summer fairytale" with the DVX 100) has been rotated, though as it was known that he is on a giant screen would be shown.
His answer, which I do not first heard: When fast movements (Sport) will reduce the resolution to a wide HDV Camera DV. What Meter Width at a barely noticeable (only the one who respects it), is reflected in higher magnification as extremely disturbing.
Without doubt encounter such statements enraged at the lack of enthusiastic HDV manufacturers such as Bruno or Ulrich.
To compensate for the practice of
video-Slip, of which it is in Cologne, Dusseldorf and a lot there. Customers of Image for movies or presentations at trade fairs expect HD! The main movement in these spots arises of animated logos or growing pillars, which the ever-growing company sales representative.
I myself would travel in the future film, I always more than semi-documentary than a normal movie Holiday raise, prefer to make HDV. The FX-1 one of my colleagues I would have liked (DV is synonymous very good). Filmic matters: With my own VX1000 & 2000 with the DVX or another colleague.
The final argument is
your answer to the question: What kind of movie I want to do?
Antwort von MarrientesAD:
So I would my home movies in SD no longer want to have - if only all possible. HDV-FX1 material of the class is easy, compared with SD - right on the display unit, eh klar.
I would test material times synonymous runterladen - that can be seen with SD on a conventional LDC PC monitor compare, and so a certain impression of the difference provide.
Antwort von Duisburger:
His answer, which I do not first heard: When fast movements (Sport) will reduce the resolution to a wide HDV Camera DV. What Meter Width at a barely noticeable (only the one who respects it), is reflected in higher magnification as extremely disturbing. Had not yet made sports, could if necessary but then times synonymous with my HDV camcorders record in DV.
Antwort von WeiZen:
Thanks for the tip, Bernd has worked!
Much, however, I can with the clip does not start.
(Motor tricycles with a thick and wild men, I found it always silly :-)
@ Wheat: you explain me what should I look? Did I do here:
Bezgl. the effects, keying times here with HDV material.
Materal of my FX-1, gekeyt of jörg. Watching is a very mobile yellow trike which changes color several times, within a top Reißschwenks. It should be noted that the yellow Audi A2 in the background is still yellow!
Antwort von WeiZen:
Yet another example of professional practice. Yesterday, the football-fan-Doku of Axel and Lars Pape, "Why half past three?" We gala premiere. Produced to the movies on a HD DLP (the large 2k, on the synonymous regular movies are shown) is projected to be. I asked the director / cameraman, why the movie in SD (as in "summer fairytale" with the DVX 100) has been rotated, though as it was known that he is on a giant screen would be shown.
His answer, which I do not first heard: When fast movements (Sport) will reduce the resolution to a wide HDV Camera DV. What Meter Width at a barely noticeable (only the one who respects it), is reflected in higher magnification as extremely disturbing.
Without doubt encounter such statements enraged at the lack of enthusiastic HDV manufacturers such as Bruno or Ulrich. Now sharp and make the shutter, he must use it.
But this is synonymous to the above clip an argument. The trike was now faster than a footballer can run, right?
Antwort von Daca:
The final argument is your answer to the question: What kind of movie I want to do? And / but most of all:
Who should be
where it can be?
If I were alone in this world, it would me the movie in your head (perhaps) suffice. But the others were to reproduce only 35mm wide, genuine celluloid. So far I have with my Canon XL1 DV gewerkelt quite badly and the result - on DVD - I was never really satisfied: the eternal feeling of uncertainty, griesige pictures, cheap ...
Now I want materialmässig (and thematically) and convert slimming: lighter, more mobile, cheaper. My little technical knowledge, I have recommended the Panasonic GS500 (better Resolutionals the XL1) and DV, I wanted to simply because of the familiar and secure "workflows" not give up.
Obviously I would like a significant improvement in earnings, but simply afraid that my picture is literally stuck in the camcorder, because the "then" very complicated but seems to be.
Nevertheless, I will probably buy the HC1 and converted in the DV mode filming. Then remains so until all the old times ...
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
as in HDV and DV output, please.
With Edius or PP2 and its Intermediate Codec, CanopusHQ or AspectHD, HDV cut you like butter. Conversion on the fly during normal Captuerns.
