Frage von Miru:
Hello,
I want someone to shoot a commercial. The budget is rather small and I'm actually still pretty wet behind the ears with regard to film.
This advertisement will run on a Kinoleindwand and on television. I have the camcorder JVC GR-PD1E would be found because in the context of the budget. Can I rotate it with the advertising film, which is synonymous shown in the movies? Or is the Resolutionzu weak.
Too much should not cost the Camera. That's why I've chosen me this camcorder. Is that correct?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Miru
Antwort von Jan:
Hello Miru,
PD 1 is so hotly debated here, with the search feature JVC GR PD 1 can be found eg the number of posts:
/ jvc-gr-pd1-can-you-capture full-dissolution-or-not -- To your question if the movies "blur" effect is desirable and should be the price Consumerklassengerecht I do not know (what should be shown), then
would be the PD 1to hot Kanidat. Even the accessories of the supplied V 428 U BN Battery (2400 mAh) - sowas gibts synonymous in the class do not often 2000.3000 ¬ zb. Then a slightly longer be synonymous "event" saved, although the 25 P "Movies" mode requires approximately 15% more power than the normal DV mode.
The inexpensive but good HDV SonyHC 1 approx ¬ 1500 would be ideal for their extremely sharp display in the other area where it should come to None "fuzziness" in the price range.
LG
January
Antwort von Miru:
Well the "blur" effect is desired in any case !!.... then is the GR-PD1E inappropriate?
The sony sounds good!
Antwort von Miru:
PS: well, yes I will turn this werbeiflm but as I said, he is shown in the cinema ... have a test on this homeopage read about this camera:
http://www.dooyoo.de/digital-camcorder/jvc-gr-pd1e/1028267/
I am a little confused !.... want that image quality is very good, so as I said no allzuzstarke blur on the silver screen!
Antwort von wolfgang:
The test here is completely obsolete and outdated - because once you see the reports of preferred meeting place for me in the video.
Whether the PD1 such a professional application has grown, I do not know exactly. Your claims are hard for me to grasp hold - .... which means "no exaggerating the blur?
I have test material of the JVC HD101 and the PD1 - the differences are not very large. But the HD101 stop even more of a professional device. And of course there still the Canon and the new Panasonic HVX 200 in a few months - the latter filmed in DVC PRO HD, and thus really in a more professional format. But you can edit the synonymous? Do you know what you need for that?
Antwort von Miru:
So this is the werbefilm:
At the beginning I Time Lapse in various local shows .. (only a short excerpt)
Mann (staff) go in the rain of the job for home runs Z4 .. s.ihm past him and up and down wet squirts of man ... then goes into einlokal locally in that he sees a large poster (advertising for a coupon book with the you can win a BMW Z4), he asks the economically from it -> then he goes to the bathroom ... (peeing on) g ..* *... there is also the poster .... man sits down s trigger. tresen the wants and with 5 mädels - noted> mädels not him! ... .. next scene with man's suit with coupons to retailers and Z4 gets off his Z4! ... scene: man is driving a BMW Z4 rum very happy! .. passes s.bushaltestelle where these 5 mädels .. mädels are suddenly very sharp on the type he can lie on the left and drive past!
werds probably with music .. ton accompany only one or two scenes with! must be very good quality ... the poster should be clear and everything else .. except that the budget is very small .... so 2000 ¬ eer I will pay for a camera rather ned!
Antwort von Miru:
PS: I must perform exactly what I need and I know myself really ned as I said ..... I still turbans behind the ears as far as the! .. This is for me the chance werbefilm hold a piece of my next dream the regie to come!!
Antwort von wolfgang:
When using the PD1 for the interior lighting would be a good critical - is in the interior area are not as particularly bright. Pay attention to which one must, I fear.
Antwort von Miru:
ok ... I'm gonna go look get this done with the lighting !!!... but otherwise we recommend the camera to it?
Antwort von Jan:
Hello Miru,
obviously makes the 50 P mode, sharp images. Some might but the 25 P Studio, so I had recommended her, da gibts Namely in the price range almost nothing (I had my first time with the PD 1 synonymous accustomed s.den slight blur Cinema)
So when "sterile-sharp" shots with the 50 P program is a top camera as the 1000 ¬.
LG
January
Antwort von wolfgang:
So the best image quality really brings the HiRes mode, which absorbs but with 25p. The 50p mode is high as the next, and then stop the DV-avi mode. This time, above all the sharpness.
Then you should still look at the behavior of motions. Here, the 25p mode tends to be stronger judder during fast movements, such as the 50p mode.
Idealweise to make stop inden different modes test shots, and looks at the material.
And do not overlook that the processing of material m2t stop but not that easy - I even do it with Vegas or Edius, which are not stop 50 euros solutions.
And the PD1's just no HDV camera, but stop as a kind of intermediate to HDV. Alternatively, you could probably synonymous still rely on a FX1, or higher quality avi DV camcorder.
Antwort von Miru:
The FX1 sounds super s.aber the cheapest offer is at nearly 3000 ¬! .. I'm not sure if this "salary" bekomm !!!... the camera is in the range of up to ¬ 2000 which I almost professional synonymous can be used? times ... I'll talk with him! or do you know where I herbekomm cheaper the FX1?
Antwort von Miru:
So the last question, because tomorrow I speak with the sponsor and he then arranges for the Camera:
Is SonyFX1 recommended? Better than the PD1? Only a decision between these two please! ... I'll ask him whether the with the financing is so bad !!.... would need the answer until tomorrow at half past eleven !!..* g *... then antscheidet are what I get ..
But the reading, and I suppose I should be more likely to buy the FX1! Or?
Antwort von wolfgang:
Difficult. The FX1 is a HDV2 camcorder. She synonymous bearable good lowlight properties. The controls of the camcorder are quite good. The main disadvantage here is still s.ehesten the interlaced format, which is actually today still can hardly argue.
The PD1 is older, but has a chip, which practically s.HDV1 Resolutionherankommt but does the stuff on tape just as the standard definition Resolutionab. It has significantly worse controls, as far as the camcorder. It has worse lowlight properties. She has but a progressive recording format.
It's just such a combination of strengths and weaknesses. If the money is no preference, I would almost rather resort to the FX1. Personally, I still always annoys interlaced format - but there are many colleagues synonymous disagree. In this comparison probably win but the FX1 because of better controls, the fact that the device is a true stop HDV camcorder, and synonymous better lowlight properties. Wiegesagt if money does not matter.
Antwort von Miru:
Money already plays ne rolle !!... I'll ask him if he wants to pay 3000!! .. What was the matter in a low-class between 1000 and 3000? .. But this is as good ??...
sorry for the stupid question, but interlaced format?
Antwort von grovel:
Camera hiring! Similarly, the other material.
Is surely more appropriate for such a project. Then you have that is top material and the rest of the money may otherwise invest.
However, I now want to question but a few things
- You're certain that you can be up for it, because for Beginners This is a pretty serious project.
- What about the rights conferred upon it with - you have the right, as the Z4 as a promotional item used in the film? (Is probably not really a problem)
- You know that it is not done with the camera? For such a project you need sound and vsLichtequipment synonymous, synonymous a good video tripod is necessary.
- How the movies projected onto the film? With a projector, which format? Or do you want to make a 32mm-Blowup - the costs you ev more than the camera.
Be certain that you have an answer to these questions, otherwise DU s.Schluss stand in the rain ...
SeeYa grovel
Antwort von Miru:
I want to rent ned because I need the camera this way or that!
which are secured it is a promotional company! ... we have known me with supervised the project!
I bekomm tripod, lighting equipment synonymous (recommendations?)
will have the film screened in public cinemas .. their rpofis explain everything to me and help me synonymous!
synonymous, and I'm someone who can help me out ... is it .. I ned bekomm out that, because as I said help, I've got it!
Antwort von mint400:
Where can I report me to get where incompetent people given a camera? No. Seriously.
You have never made a movie, you probably never been more synonymous busy and you think if someone gives you ne Cam, that then you're a director?
What crew (lighting, sound ,...) does he want someone to work with the 0 and synonymous practice has apparently hardly theoretical know?
Which advertising agency is very interested s.Ihrem own ruin, hire people like you and finance?
Sorry, nothing against you personally but this whole story comes to me very ominous.
Antwort von Miru:
I can understand your concerns already. I see it as synonymous ned attack.
1. I have not forced my client. He is a friend of us and I'd asked, because he knows that I want to be a director. I entertain myself with him, told him how I would do it and he said that's enough for this Project !..... His opinion, I ned to change.
I told him synonymous words that I've made have never been in this dimensions, of course I have some kurzfilme rotated but more synonymous ned. And all this with my Handycam. Yet he had no problem with it. He brucht someone to turn to him, most of the post-ned is in my hands. He needs the video material.
We have agreed only on my salary if I take over and that's just the camera. Also I could borrow my everything and so what I work so synonymous for the most part do, because there are nice people who seem like someone who would support me if I'm still inexperienced synonymous!!
No matter. Since his SonyFX1 are too expensive, I can understand synonymous, PD1 is the recommended anyway or do you know ne other cam which is in the price between 1000 and 2000 euro? And also would be suitable?
Antwort von matarese:
The SonyHC1 or from April, the HC3 would possibly consider synonymous considered.
LGH
Antwort von matarese:
Miru, act like a professional - you concentrate on the Directing and you may take a professional cameraman with professional equipment and lighting. You'll be more than grateful if you help good people in the project, especially if you're still Beginners. Then you get a professional result and a top reference. Otherwise, hire you for that, a Sony Z1, Canon H1, JVC HD100, or - if already available - HVX200. The HVX is the best choice for telecine, as the higher color resolution (4:2:2) and has much less compression artifacts than the HDV cams. Very good, the XL2 is synonymous with relevant knowledge and accessories (Lenses) filter.
The Post / Editing You can do it myself, because when you have time then to try experimenting 1A and especially raw materials.
Plane especially generous synonymous for sound design, which is very important in those spots and uu important than the Picture!
With a toy camera angles and s.wichtigen missing equipment and know-how will you bring the Project into the sand.
Antwort von Froschkapitän:
If ¬ 2,000 - the total budget is, then the half probably have to go west to the film exposure (30 sec-500, -).
Antwort von Miru:
Good Good, thanks for the tips hiring! ... But is not easy in there, because no-one camcorder to Passau of the camera rental companies rented !....
Antwort von Miru:
What is it now actually with the SonyHC1?
Ok I'll try that myself so I can particularly someone starts! But'd still like to know whether the HC1 or would not be good. I'm always on the internet but rumgesucht None rented for Passau! Now I'll just wait.
As always synonymous! Wish me luck synonymous if you're not quite believe that it really is! (Please understand your concerns!)
Lg Miru
Antwort von Miru:
Well, then, last question: If this does not work with the film but I want a camera!
JVC PD1 OR SonyHC1
The two are simply in the context that I can make myself by my selbstverdientes Money and anyway I'm sorry for my Handycam camera itself, I can buy it! (we leave with views of the outside before the movie)! Which of the two should I purchase more?
LG
Antwort von grovel:
Passau none of the camcorder, camera rental companies rented !.... If you Munich is not too far:
http://www.dv-kameraverleih.de/
The ship usually synonymous material - to truly affordable prices.
Other Rental you can find here:
http://www.slashcam.de/cgibin/scripts/haendler_sec-i-vermietung.html
SeeYa grovel
Antwort von deepcode:
So I myself gucke for weeks for a private cam - I say once you lie down with the HC1 quite well. The only weakness compared to the FX1/Z1 einn appears far worse picture in low light to be, in good light, both are about the same.
I have a lot deinterlactes 1080i -> 720p seen footage, progressive comes over quite well. The non Resolutionliegt course at the high level of the Canon H1, but it can keep up with regular light with the Z1 and overall is a good piece better than DV. For the price, in any case a good thing. The zoom control is, however, mist, when then zoom with the ring, but then always the autofocus is active.
I'll share my (if I buy it to use adapters) with one Letus35 mm, let's see ..
Antwort von Miru:
Thank you.
I'll take time s.dass I then nen FireWire port for my PC need ?.... What would be good cutting program for the HC1?
Antwort von wolfgang:
Edius, Vegas, AP Pro, MSP8.
Antwort von Miru:
Thanks for your help, would rent it!
have the SonyHDR-FX1, tripod, dolly, lighting, etc. diffusers'll rent or borrow it!
The last problem is the cut! .. but I'll unravel some way already .. I believe that there is sufficient ned in the FX1 is an XP laptop to have ...
Antwort von deepcode:
Get ne Sony Vegas 6 trial, which runs erstmal 1 months free & it can work fine.
Antwort von Miru:
now I've got me by the Dv camera hire looked around and went back on consumption but little decision:
I personally would have taken the SonyFX1 but still have a couple of selection, ie:
SonyVX2100 or FX1 or Canon XL2 or Canon XL1 and Panasonic DVX 100AE?
It is a 3 minute promotional film, as already mentioned, are processed for Fersehen for Movies and needs!
Had I decided to go right with the FX1, or is the better of the other?
Antwort von Oli68:
Hello,
How much did you pay for,
with so little competence to carry out such a project be allowed?
Antwort von Miru:
hmm I think I've paid a few millions !!....
what I do, for whom I do it and that I do it even though I'm probably my competence is not a Case and the Case of our famous !....
ned I think that I'm the only one with no experience in major project s.ein dared hatt ..... and if they do na bravo ....
synonymous, as always I will accept this project as well as the challenge .... thank God there are people synonymous to help people turn on the inexperienced synonymous and not permanently stupid ....
but we leave that, because that does not belong in this forum! competence ... or not ... I'll get it that no preference for whether I should break open the Ar !!...* *** g *
Antwort von Miru:
PS: keep if you have no idea, just eat the times, because who says you @ guest that the film will be released and not just a test for me? .. Who you / tell you that this "advertising film" really used .. which is not a word I said ... it is rotated, which is not cut etc, what happens next in my estimate !!!... I just wanted people to be able to give tips to me, perhaps, no stupid claims!
Antwort von grovel:
I personally would have taken the SonyFX1 but still have a couple of selection, ie:
SonyVX2100 or FX1 or Canon XL2 or Canon XL1 and Panasonic DVX 100AE? Since you do a movie production anvisierst I would bet on the FX1, which suggests in this area, probably the other cameras.
Tell us, have some, like the film is projected in the movies. For that is pretty crucial. When it synonymous only want you to press them with a DVD in hand, I would in fact do not work in HDV - and since the color resolution of DV cameras is even better, especially in lowlight area - and that could be crucial to your project already . Furthermore, due to much easier to work with DV than with HDV.
But if the have an HDTV projector, and will expose you to the whole film (probably) cost issue, you should use in any case, HDV - meaning the FX1, so you can reach with appropriate application of 16mm quality.
SeeYa grovel
Antwort von Miru:
ok I'll ask ... how to be sent!
when working with dv should I hire a pure DV Camera?
'm gonna go ask how is the!
HDTV -> SonyFX1
for DVD -> Dv Camera
gutgut ....
