Newsmeldung von slashCAM: JVC HD5 and HD6: New FullHD of JVC camcorder with 1080p output of thomas - 30 Jan 2008 19:07:00 The new models JVC HD5 and HD6 are about 45% smaller than the already available since April 2007 HD-7. Both new models are available with Fujinon HD lenses that contain three 16:9 progressive scan 1 / 5 inch CCDs, have optical image stabilization and a maximum of 1920x1080 FullHD take on and use the xvColor space. A special feature is the playback of 60p (or 50p in the European area) FullHD the material, which allows direct playback via HDMI to improve high-resolution TVs - over here so the camcorder electronics instead of the TV the deinterlacing. The two models differ except by the colors (the HD6 is black, the silver HD5) only through the hard drive capacity: the JVC GZ-HD 6 with 120GB, 10 hours recording time FullHD and five hours for the 60GB GZ-HD5 in the maximum bitrate of 30 Mbit / s, in comparison to the as in the previous models has remained the same. Optionally microSD card to be recorded. The Prices are for the American market with $ 1399 (JVC GZ-HD6) or $ 1,199 for the GZ-HD5 indicated - the models are expected in March audf the market.
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Antwort von uho:
First, I was surprised at the features, but then I became sober.
s.Was should talk to FullHD with 1080p output!? The Camera is quite normal in mpeg2 with 1080-50/60i on, in any case not 1080-25/30p.
b) Whether the quality of the image with the new color is better performance is seen.
c) The Canon HF100 is AVCHD in on, but in true 25p
d) The Canon has no moving parts
e) The Stablilisator and the picture s.sich are always better than Canon JVC had.
f) The price.
g) Blue-Ray with mpeg2 can be synonymous, but many tools only work with AVC, which is synonymous makes the files smaller.
I'm waiting for test reports s.and then I decide.
Antwort von WoWu:
Now you can not synonymous at least once more to leave the format ... not only that you try, with FullHD 1920x1080 to suggest that it is now synonymous nor shall see whether the "p" Selecting only refers to the output .... of recording codec is now absolutely no question ... which one may imagine, because in an MPEG2 transport stream can be a synonymous AVC plug, because that's just the transportation container ... whereby the Tonlayer however slightly synonymous to MPEG2 codec suggests ... but will simply say nothing more ... not synonymous, that the use of the xvYCC color space corresponding synonymous Monitor and HDMI in addition to the transmission of metadata implies, is synonymous simply not mentioned .... and about 1 / 5 "CCD image sensors or CMOS ...?
JVC now seeming to be completely transferred to its purchaser only with advertising messages and to consider points in information: non-existent.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... CCD or CMOS? ... CCDs ... ... Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von WoWu:
Jau, true, I've read on .. but that is another reason fewer ...
Antwort von DeeZiD:
Now you can not synonymous at least once more to leave the format ... not only that you try, with FullHD 1920x1080 to suggest that it is now synonymous nor shall see whether the "p" Selecting only refers to the output .... of recording codec is now absolutely no question ... which one may imagine, because in an MPEG2 transport stream can be a synonymous AVC plug, because that's just the transportation container ... whereby the Tonlayer however slightly synonymous to MPEG2 codec suggests ... but will simply say nothing more ... not synonymous, that the use of the xvYCC color space corresponding synonymous Monitor and HDMI in addition to the transmission of metadata implies, is synonymous simply not mentioned .... and about 1 / 5 "CCD image sensors or CMOS ...?
JVC now seeming to be completely transferred to its purchaser only with advertising messages and to consider points in information: non-existent. Hr. Dr.Wunderlich, I can only wonder at such depth background knowledge of an author so unqualified statements to read.
The Internet is but the knowledge base on which they normally build up and they want to tell us not to find comprehensive information?
The advertising campaign promoted by Forum and the ISBN for MP4 AVC standard is slow tedious, we can no longer read.
Antwort von WoWu:
Then let it just ...
Antwort von DeeZiD:
Then let it just ... I would like but no preference for any theme repeatedly encountered it, always returning like the flu and a pandemic is the mass-like states accept.
Antwort von WoWu:
such is life ..
Antwort von kroko:
such is life .. Wunderlich flat, but not hopeless and the layman or the seekers of such statements should be read can be helped in one such contributions as gap fillers entlarvt.
Antwort von Joe_MS:
Hello forum users. I am surprised and disappointed with the sound of the reigns here. I think the statements of WoWu very helpful and appropriate. Sure, he has a viewpoint about the codecs. Den can be critical. But we should in this case argue factually and are not the same person! Hopefully this is an exception - otherwise it will be tolerated Forum damage.
What struck me about the camcorder really bothers: Have now synonymous the JVC camcorder viewfinders no more? Only this summer I (Alpine, radiant sun) once again found that a folding LCD s.Ende can be quickly and have enjoyed my viewfinders (in this case synonymous with low Resolutioneine help is great - perhaps not the sharpness regulate, but to see what is on record!). The structure of the image is just as vital as my white balance, exposure and sharpness!
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Joe_MS
Thank you for the contribution ... In fact, it seems that the industry is entering a new "layer" s.Camcorders want to introduce, for the "point & shooter. As Jan in his speech said, an estimated 80%.
Will those who want to edit, probably the only step in the "middle class" to the appropriate price.
But was it really different from the past? Because the Z1 or the HCX200 earlier but was not really synonymous Consumer class. The HVX200 is incidentally in the U.S. now for $ rd.1.600, so almost back to the Consumer Price .. So if you do not necessarily always have the latest model needs perfectly synonymous has the option of using a good camera at a great price to get. (plus the German mark-ups, but this can be synonymous to play back and save the DVCPro VTR)
But s.die finder free camcorder we will probably get used to.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... The HVX200 is incidentally in the U.S. now for $ rd.1.600 ... If it is really about the HVX200 is: Can you estimate how serious this 1600-dollar provider? B & H and some other dealer, they have currently with the $ 5200 listed, Adorama is still $ 4300 for a nearly new "used" model. $ 1600, which in the U.S. half a Canon XH-A1 corresponds to come to me as highly suspicious before!
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Holger K.:
Again a camcorder without Viewfinder!
This bad habit now takes on all camcorder manufacturers increasingly common.
Everyone wants to sell most expensive camcorder, but the string in the equipment list is growing.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Bernd
I think he is serious, I did many years ago where my first HD1 GY purchased, because there are no HD cameras in Germany at the time was.
However, you only accept addresses in the U.S. and international synonymous only CC.
I will now no link to post here, but you can send it when you get me on-mails.
Antwort von WoWu:
.. oh, incidentally, which is synonymous GY HD 200 with $ 4099 a bargain.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... think he is serious ... now wants no link to post here ... Okay, then let me look at you by mail (although the link still synonymous sure others here would be interested)! Maybe your dealer soon a HVR-S270 for $ 2000 ;-) The three US-dealer with the HVX200 for $ 1700, which I now have found, however, had so grotte bad reviews that I do not even have a lens cap wants to buy .. .
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von WoWu:
It may now be that the dealer is, I can only say, then everything has worked reliably, even quite apart from that he naturally has tried me as a whole package with s.Zusatzteilen for sale ... but if you then this remains true of synonymous price. I am close but not from that over the years things change, just when everything would be just shady, even if such dealer from American market long gone. But such decisions can only be taken alone.
My question is really only is whether American Dealers really much cheaper to buy, and then with such prices to be able to live as a German dealer ... or will be in Germany just hearty abkassiert?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
It may now be that the dealer is ... Expecam
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... if all this would only shift would be even from such Dealers American market long gone ... Should we accept, but unfortunately it is not so: It seems there are always hopeful enough customers, these dealers in the trap - as can be, for example on consumer sites like www.resellerratings.com deterrent as many experiences to be found. And if a supplier of the ground but once too hot to be under a different name, a new shop just opened and the game starts of the front.
... My question is really only is whether American Dealers really much cheaper to buy, and then with such prices to be able to live ... or will be in Germany just hearty abkassiert? The latter ;-) anyway, but the mystery of this infamous U.S. dealer is that they usually do not deliver the advertised prices. You may on occasion so times on the above linked Page some customers experience read: you are the hairs stand on end, with the tricks that are used. Here are just two examples: The advertised price is at once only for the bare Camera - Manufacturer of the enclosed accessories such as battery or cable cost extra, and not too tight. "Beautiful" synonymous the method, the customer after the contract award be informed that the ordered super-affordable Nikon digital SLR camera manufactured in China and therefore until further notice was not available. You have but in the U.S. manufactured Nikon in stock, the top of a magnesium housing that (the China-Nikon will only be made of plastic) and can deliver it immediately - but for $ 600 more. Needless to mention that Nikon did not produced in the United States and have no same enclosure made of various materials ...
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von WoWu:
Bernd, I will not synonymous in the purchase ... the U.S. propagate there are quite a few reasons to buy in Germany .... I have therefore not synonymous varied experience .... but at the time the purchase went smoothly, a friendly call from the salesperson who violently tried to send me an extra package once the exception. But after I click the camera without the "frills" existed, synonymous everything went smoothly and the camera was synonymous not from China but from Japan.
But, as I said ... furthermore, if there's not a commodity, just call back the visa amount. This also works in case of doubt, fairly well, because the VISA-affiliated banks may be the reputation of not ruining visas and therefore tend to act first in the interest of customers.
But let everyone know .. as I said, this is no Plädeuer per U.S. to purchase just the question of whether what you really pay in Germany in a healthy relationship.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
From the exchange with colleagues, I know:
Purchase extreme caution when in God's Own Country. S.Online The percentage-crooks should perhaps be so high as here in D, but there are a few things that are over there right crooks easy - or . angeschissenen the buyer in difficult D:
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No obligation, so something like the VAT-ID indicated. This can not verify that the company is;
- Personal documents ( "ID") are virtually unknown and in any event for the company's foundation is not required. In order to open an account, sometimes reaches a license or an honesty Augenaufschlag.
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No single register. The Social Security numbers are easy with the network tools available to falsify names were at least until 9 / 11, even more than easy.
- In a corporate bankruptcy, the debtor may be under the protection of "Chapter V" is: They can then take quite a while to even years, until his business almost entirely normal lead, and with him it can not be enforced.
- Privacy is over there as good as unknown. Your planned to purchase mail address will be of even reputable companies, including purchasing data immediately resold. Address as traders pay up to $ 50 (and more) per address, if with such data has been enriched. Somewhere has to come from the low price, is not it?
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no explicit law, but what
if a court somewhere zusammengepfändet and s.die creditor is paid to foreign creditors, according to the back of the distribution. That will never officially said, but it is already too often occurred as a coincidence that it would be. I have heard of one case, as were the U.S. with 80% of creditors abgefunden and European creditors with 35%.
- It execute something a German court titles in the U.S. :-)))) more fun is not ...
So when USA Purchase: s.besten combine a holiday with a product and touch and go. And hope that during the warranty period, nothing happens.
BG, Andreas
Antwort von WoWu:
Hello Bernd ...
I have a few stories from "the horror department" you've read posted ... "The story with the extras, I know synonymous, but I am in the 'delivery without extras" and still have a JVC original broadcast ... get with Battery and Charger etc.
It may be that times have changed since dadach you can really only strongly advise against ... I am totally in Dir
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... It may be that times have changed since dadach you can really only strongly advise against ... Caution is appropriate because necessarily, because there is probably no coincidence that of the top ten retailers with the worst rating on Reseller Ratings eight from the Still Image and Video sphere. Their ratings on the scale of 0 to 10 are between 0.11 and 0.69 - which translated means "Here I wish to order my own worst enemy is not" ;-) For Comparison: The famous B & H is located at Shop 9, 63.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von WoWu:
Bernd,
I think it was good that you have the ratings as a corrective've posted, though, of course, is more likely to perpetuate to the nose and are less like those who awaited product, just as I got.
Synonymous, but I think that a couple is always dissatisfied, but the volume of postings convinced me totally.
So stored under "what you should never do."
Thank you for your contributions (synonymous s.Andreas).
