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JVC VHS VCR production ended after 32 years of rudi - 4 Nov 2008 12:19:00
Nor is the end of that era are still not completely sealed, but JVC has now after 32 years, the production of his last VHS VCR officially stopped. It will certainly be one or the other combi player and give the bearing to only be sold once more. Even foreign licensee should certainly become a next production. But surely still gets many a heavy heart. Finally, one feels the death of old technologies so synonymous always one's own transience. Resting gently VHS, Betamax freut sure you now have to ...

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

Even if the worst with all the VHS format has enforced: It is astonishing how long JVC his system has kept the loyalty. If I s.Philips Grundig and think at the beginning of home video technology naslang all new, incompatible with the recorder predecessors on the market are: VCR, VCR Long Play, SVR - it was already big botch. And in their Community Video 2000 format, they have it in the first series indeed managed to edge the track heads s.unterschiedlichen places to install - if you can distinguish between the recorders swapped the tapes, the sound was suddenly no longer synchronously ...

But can live JVC bygone days of glory probably not. Especially as the connoisseurs know that the flowering of the art the best of VHS recorder Sony, Akai, isolated synonymous times of Hitachi and Philips came ...



Antwort von WoWu:

Did not even the whole of license Sonyand JVC, it was only acquired?
Really long time ago ...



Antwort von r.p.television:

"WoWu" wrote: Did not even the whole of license Sonyand JVC, it was only acquired?
Really long time ago ...

I would be surprised.
Then Sony would have shot self in the knee.
Why a format s.JVC sell themselves and are trying in vain as the Betamax home video standard to establish?



Antwort von Debonnaire:

Quote: ... but JVC has now after 32 years, the production of his last VHS VCR officially stopped ...
It makes me incredibly sad that JVC's "last-VHS VCR" TO END not yet produced, rather than its production - apparently in the middle of the manufacturing process - easy to stop! ;-)

Sooorgfältiger formulate, dear editors! ;-)



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"WoWu" wrote: Did not even the whole of license Sonyand JVC, it was only acquired?
No, no - JVC, Panasonic and Sony U-Matic have jointly developed. Then they went their separate ways. The original Betamax (synonymous, see the link in the original announcement) was just 'ne Reduced U-Matic with just one hour recording time, VHS had (as is the memory of the boys Brodcast Engineering synonymous already tarnished) in the UR-NTSC version two.

Video8 was then a community event - but without my knowledge JVC. (Edit: Also JVC was, but there's apparently not used.) And Panasonic has the only license used as a blue dot for a few Video8 camcorder built.



Antwort von WoWu:

? Everything misreporting?

Quote: Originally one of Sony at the end of the 70s developed the patents of JVC acquired.
Source:
http://www.mediabit.de/lexikon/vhs.html

Or synonymous here:
[quote] Quote: The real Urpatent of Sony, which is the VHS system at all possible, was of the firm JVC acquired since Sony's own invention deemed to be too bad.
Source:
http://www.duo-data.com/html/vhs-kassette_vhs-c.html

Or synonymous here:
http://www.movie-college.de/filmschule/medien/Videogeschichte2.htm

If the reports or is Quadruplex's memory is not much more with his "Ur-NTSC-Version" tarnished?
Schu'n times we ...



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"WoWu" wrote: ? Everything misreporting?
Besides lack of sources, the discussion somewhat pointless.
The basic technique, with all the video tape to work, according to the Ampex Quadruplex-came, the helical track record. The has already 1953 The Telefunken-Ingenieur Eduard Schüller patentieren lassen.
"WoWu" wrote: Telefunken-Ingenieur Eduard Schüller patentieren lassen.
http://www.mediabit.de/lexikon/vhs.html Telefunken-Ingenieur Eduard Schüller patentieren lassen.

Because is not clear to what part of the technique it could go.
Telefunken-Ingenieur Eduard Schüller patentieren lassen.
"WoWu" wrote: Telefunken-Ingenieur Eduard Schüller patentieren lassen.
http://www.duo-data.com/html/vhs-kassette_vhs-c.html Telefunken-Ingenieur Eduard Schüller patentieren lassen.

Ditto.
Edit: They're not taken seriously as a source. Citation: "Philips had simply overslept and the trend was still his s / w Coil video machines, when the Japanese have with Color and cassette tape instead of coils advertised." That is nonsense. The cassettenbasierte VCR format of Philips was before VHS and Betamax in the European market. VHS and Betamax came 1977 Europe. VCR, there have been 1971.
"WoWu" wrote: 1971.
http://www.movie-college.de/filmschule/medien/Videogeschichte2.htm 1971.

The times do not know how to write Quadruplex. After all, you will get an idea what could go: the type of Kopftrommelumschlingung. VHS tape, the M-shape around the head drum, Betamax U-shaped. Whether the M-wrap Sonypatentiert of times actually was - I do not know.

But, as I said: The discussion is pointless. The Basics of NTSC RCA was responsible for PAL Telefunken. Ditto for the helical track record. Every modern technical device has more than one father. Probably synonymous someone has a patent for the eddy current brake, with the first generation of home video at Target speed was kept ...
1971.
"WoWu" wrote: 1971.
If the reports or is Quadruplex's memory is not much more with his "Ur-NTSC-Version" tarnished 1971.

Where is the problem, Mr. 1971.
Wunderlich? I have just described, that the original Betamax 'hours to include ne could, the UR-VHS recorder two (everything related to the NTSC models). Not a word of patents ...
1971.
"WoWu" wrote: 1971.
Quadruplex's 1971.

Mr. 1971.
Wunderlich! It hurts! There comes times for a change, so an apostrophe out - but no more S. Also: This is not an apostrophe, but an accent. Apostrophe is the thing above the diamond (on German keyboards).



Antwort von WoWu:

It is amusing that "turns out" to read the approach of the case with nothing to do .... I would be grateful for a useful clue where I am the apostrophe to find a Spanish Tatstur.
And the rest was "Quadruplex" in the genitive and was represented by an "s" to mark .... Yes, yes, Quadruplex ... inaccuracies in, you're very big ... but when it comes to concrete goes ....
Excuse the wrong number ... again but you will surely tell me where I find the correct characters, because keyboards seem so at least you bets ..... synonymous or not?






Antwort von Quadruplex:

"WoWu" wrote: It is amusing that "turns out" to read the approach of the case with nothing to do
Even more times to read and understand:
"The Ur-Betamax (synonymous, see the link in the original announcement) was just 'ne Reduced U-Matic with just one hour recording time, VHS had (as is the memory of the boys Brodcast Engineering synonymous already tarnished) in the UR-NTSC version two. "
I know the best will not be what it might be because herauszuwinden, Mr. Wunderlich.
"WoWu" wrote: .... I would be grateful for a useful clue where I am the apostrophe to find a Spanish Tatstur.
Just open up your eyes and looking. I have never claimed to be omniscient. If the result is a straight line,'s true. Sun: '
"WoWu" wrote: And the rest was "Quadruplex" in the genitive and was represented by an "s" to mark ....
No..



Antwort von Debonnaire:

"WoWu" wrote: ... where I use the apostrophe to find a Spanish Tatstur.
Can simply synonymous [old] +0039 (on the numeric keypad) type, for the apostrophe. Or you an apostrophe somewhere in the text simply by [ctrl] + C to copy in the cache and where you need it in the text, using [ctrl] + V. You have to stop to help know! ;-)



Antwort von WoWu:

A pity that I have no number pad ... but with the copy I find a practical matter. I could always open a file, where as a part occurs. Or am I do such a thing in the cache if I have understood you correctly.
But I still would have a better idea:
Whenever I need a short when I ask to Quadruplex.
It has certainly always the right hand stroke.



Antwort von Debonnaire:

Well, then you can still Zeichentablle of Microsoft Office (although you certainly are not synonymous ...) and take out of him then you copy it. However, it is in the lyrics in this thread with tons of Apostophe, s.welchen you could use!



Antwort von WoWu:

But then I have every morning once unstop this thread ... nee, that's not such a good tip ...



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"WoWu" wrote: Did not even the whole of license Sonyand JVC, it was only acquired?
Eventually Mr. Wunderlich is still a difference between licensing and patent learn. The use of other patents is common - no it does not today.
"rptelevision" wrote: I would be surprised.
That is - in all forms - commonplace. The standard case is patents - where basic technologies are patented in one area, they must necessarily each company, which manufactures the products, take advantage.

There's much more common in practice, the situation that a company or a developer of patented something for which there is currently no issuing of the patent needs. Often synonymous lacks the technology for the practical implementation of an idea. Or the company that holds the patent, is too silly, the idea to market. The already mentioned to me of oblique track record at the time of patent grant does not realize - but nonetheless he Telefunken naturally for the later use of its patent-Tribune.
"rptelevision" wrote: Then Sony would have shot self in the knee.
Why a format s.JVC sell themselves and are trying in vain as the Betamax home video standard to establish?
It was as if the true story (sources I have not found, but this must be an old thing nothing called) is not a complete video system sold or licensed, but only one patent.

You know the story of the fax?

My favorite relating to "involuntary technology transfer" is still the Trinitron tube. The idea of typical strip mask in the picture tube probably originates from France. As in Europe, the dispute over PAL or Secam was raging, the French promised the Russians, when they build a strip mask CRT factory to help if they are only for Secam decided.
Have they made - the factory but has never worked. Instead, then SonyTrinitron developed for series production and which for decades lived magnificently.



Antwort von WoWu:

@ Quadruplex

Where is because only the change of mind?

Quadruplex 1:
Quote: No, no - JVC, Panasonic and Sony U-Matic have jointly developed. Then they went their separate ways.

Quadruplex 2:
Quote: That is - in all forms - commonplace.

Well what now? "No, no .." or "This is commonplace .. .."



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"WoWu" wrote: Well what now? "No, no .." or "This is commonplace .. .."
Mr. Wunderlich Good ...
If more than one manufacturer jointly develop a format is one thing, if a manufacturer for a product patent of another uses something different.

The whole story with the supposedly sold s.JVC Sony patent is anyway very ambiguous. The only concrete evidence there is in this, of your source.
http://www.movie-college.de/filmschule/medien/Videogeschichte2.htm
If this is true because what it says, has Sonydie technology in question (White anyone what could have been?) 1966 fall and sold. If JVC actually because ten years (in Japan VHS came to market in 1976) has built on it until it was useful: Well what? In the time it would probably synonymous Sonyans running. Obviously they have a different time, also working (and probably better) solution.

You awaken with your first post seems to Sonyhätte a complete, turnkey video format s.JVC licensed. This is definitely not so.



Antwort von WoWu:

Yes, yes, the correct misunderstandings .... I understand .. Rowing, rowing, rowing ...
I think the thing is sufficiently clear.

@ Debonnaire

I had completely forgotten that I have my apostrophe PM every other day for his collection was bequeathed ....
No wonder that I no longer find my keyboard.
Since I have to wait until I get a new computer ... until then just be saddled with the accent.






Antwort von Quadruplex:

Only because it's interested in me (with the old stuff I know very well it had me wondering if me as such a history would be lost):
The only specific reference to any business of patent Sonywith JVC / Panasonic (Matsushita) is the mutual licensing of U-Matic. See for example hierhere, Page 4 below.



Antwort von WoWu:

"Quadruplex" wrote: ... (Sources, I have not found, but this must be an old thing nothing hot) ...



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"WoWu" wrote: "Quadruplex" wrote: ... (Sources, I have not found, but this must be an old thing nothing hot) ...
If you know it, Mr. Wunderlich, then yes you can disclose it. In addition, between the subject of remark you quoted of me and my last post two hours of intensive search - with the term, arid results.
It's better if you can: Unlike you, I am learning ... Ich sag's noch mal: Facts, facts, facts.



Antwort von WoWu:

Quote: In addition, between the subject of remark you quoted of me and my last post two hours of intensive search --
Inefficient Total: 2 minutes had gerreicht
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_Home_System&stable=0&shownotice=1
Quote: 1976, initially as pure NTSC system in Japan on the market, VHS was in Europe in the years to s.1980 standard in home video after it is on the market against Sony's Betamax and Video2000 of Philips and Grundig had enforced. Pikanterweise based VHS Development on Sony's patent, the JVC had acquired. A major reason for the success were the Systemerfindern of the other format required license fees, while the JVC generous licensing clearly designed than the competition. This led to the format war.

All are wrong, except Quadruplex and the absence of massive information on the topic of dusty yet signs indicate that the opposite is true.
How about because with the facts that JVC does not use Sony patents, but that it is a completely independent development acted.
At least there are multiple references to the correctness of my statement and would be helpful in the correction was: License => Patent. Then everything would fit together and would be an accurate statement emerged ...
Unfortunately, it is not so Quadruplex came because it knew no better and loud:
"No, no - JVC, Panasonic and Sony U-Matic have jointly developed."
..... had to call.
If someone tells me that I had wrong information, then I search and check the correctness, to fix bugs ...
As far as relating to: learning



Antwort von Quadruplex:

Strange: In ninth source is, what is ominous for a patent because it could be ...

"Originally Sony once of the late 70s developed the patents of JVC acquired."

"The real Urpatent of Sony, which is the VHS system at all possible, was of the firm JVC acquired since Sony's own invention deemed to be too bad."

"Sony had synonymous attempts, with the help of moving the tape guide levers in order to wrap the head, had this idea because of technical problems, but again fall 1966. Interestingly, then bought this JVC Patent"

"Pikanterweise VHS-based development on a Sony-patent, the JVC had acquired."

Yes, what isses denn nun? I have the feeling here is one for the other method. And if the brain turns times: A key technique may not have been otherwise would have SonyBetamax no longer can do. Nor is this a conspiratorial "patent sold" in almost all sources very strange: If I get a patent on a technology I can against other royalties allow this patent to use. It remains my property and I can even use it synonymous.

What is synonymous always been like: We are not able to clarify. The Head of Development at VHS JVC, Katsuya Yokoyama, s.31.10 already died. 1993 (Source: 'video' 1 / 1994)

And, again: The phrase "Did not even the whole of license Sonyand JVC, it was just purchased?" gives the impression Sonyhabe VHS fix and ready s.JVC developed and then sold. They have not and why would they do? That patents of Sonyin VHS used, given the zeal that many Japanese companies in the 1960s in the video technology s.den have got anything but unusual.



Antwort von Jan:

A well-known technology site, wrote:

"VHS - Abbreviation for Video Home System, the world's most common video system for home applications, video-cassettes MAZ system (developed of JVC), which works with 1/2-Inch-Oxidbändern. The Y and chroma-records Under the color process. This is the Y-bandwidth 3MHz (FM, hub = 1MHz), the chroma carrier frequency is approximately 627kHz. The lane tracking is done with the help of fiscal stimulus, which hinted at the lower band edge s.der recorded .

Whether that is true, however, is synonymous Question .....

VG
Jan



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Jan" wrote: Whether that is true, however, is synonymous Question .....
What should they not vote?



Antwort von Jan:

Really developed of JVC - stop .....

VG
Jan



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Jan" wrote: Really developed of JVC - stop .....
Developed with safety. JVC had so long been the rather embarrassing advertising slogan: "The VHS-inventor." That is about as VW would be "The Auto-inventor" call ...

If you look in the 1970 home video systems available watches, one sees quickly that the technology is very similar. Hence, it is synonymous not surprising that a manufacturer uses other patents. But the actual implementation, each made according to discretion - everyone has hoped that its format prevails.
This has little do with technology and customer orientation with nothing to do. For each format licenses are to be paid, a licensor may be a licensee detailed prescriptive. Since it is understandable that each donor and do not want to be policyholders.

A current example: In 2006, Philips announced several radios, not just a socket for the Apple iPod, but synonymous for its own MP3 player should have. Shortly before the start of production, Apple said: Ne, ne Philips: Only for the iPod - or even nothing. Because joy comes in ... And Apple has available for the iPod dock obviously synonymous to the hand.






Antwort von ShiBaden:

Welcome to the thread is a little older, but still I would like to add explanation.
The technology which had sold Sonyan JVC was the Bandladeprinzip - M-Loading - which Sony is not necessarily classified as unusable had, but with many disadvantages for the operation was connected. Through this Compact charging band were friendly special feature is not possible due to the short Ladeweg was the tape on a short route and diverted several times by the friction forces and Bandzug fairly high, it was synonymous of high timing errors in recording of wholesome image. The tape had to repeatedly rewinding ausgefädelt be added which is a stress factor. The target which was then to U-loading process is realized most of many experts and has been recognized until now is still the popular band Gentle charging par, if not the most compact synonymous. (U-Matic / SP Betacam SX Digital Family / D1 / D2, etc) You must, however, JVC's credit that they are the M-loading procedures in the course of time developed and still quite passable Works. Synonymous rest of the newer video devices in the professional sector of JVC to use U-synonymous when Loading from licensing issues in a somewhat modified form (eg MII), the M-Sonyverwendet Loading zb in Video8 and mini DV devices, DVCam come in both as synonymous M-U - Loading applications.

A Good Source: The History Sony video (; com domain simply googling)

There you can view everything from Sony read, incidentally, the synonymous JVC / Matsushita s.Sony some video technology has abgekupfert without paying!

Another note on the article by the College Movie - This Report
is peppered with errors, I think that means I think that the author of the material has no clue, and the simple things without context from the network has copied .. he knew not what he did.
Much has happened is simply wrong.

Greetings Alfi, Munich



Antwort von Jan:

Thank you - but like 4 times?

VG
Jan



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"ShiBaden" wrote: The technology which had sold Sonyan JVC was the Bandladeprinzip - M-Loading
In the course of this discussion emerged sources, there were so many times already indications of band management. Of the fact that Sony has patented and patent then this JVC for VHS used, was synonymous to me, however, not known. May be due to that over time the advantages and disadvantages of the band tours have approached. Video In 2000, there were both variations allowed - Philips used M-Loading, Grundig U.

The recent improvements in M-Loading/VHS-Mechanik did not JVC, but unfortunately, even in the history of Akai firm commitments. The tape could be the synonymous with the pros and rewind mechanism in the recorder, the rotating head drum pads, the tape on air and gave it the minds of television. Incidentally, they synonymous with intelligent scheme VHS decks at front and rewind steam by the end of the 80s it took on most VHS recorders up to eight minutes, a tape rewind four hours. Akai pushed the time by half, Philips was the early 90s then one and a half minutes down.
"ShiBaden" wrote: There you can view everything from Sony read, incidentally, the synonymous JVC / Matsushita s.Sony some video technology has abgekupfert without paying!
Och - it is in all versions of almost all companies commonplace. If somewhere a good idea appears, it is stolen or if it is patented, it looks to whether a man with little variation (maybe even an actual improvement over the first version) can circumvent the patent.
"ShiBaden" wrote: Another note on the article by the College Movie - This report is peppered with errors, I think that means I think that the author of the material has no clue, and the simple things without context from the network has copied .. (..) There is just simply wrong.
Jau - see synonymous