Frage von don_dima:
Hello,
I am a mountain biker and would like for our team homepage videos rotate. This should, however, be creative, than simply to keep it.
I photograph for several years and want to use my experience in the video shoot over and synonymous with new experiences.
Tips for sports photography and I have the right here in the forum already read.
It would not be so difficult to find suitable camera, but my problem is that I have a very limited budget have to say about 100 ¬, if I save several months villt ¬ 200, rather less. More I can not just next to my studies and to free up other hobbies.
My reasoning is I now look for a used Hi8 to see. The manual settings are important to me, synonymous as a light and strong Lens chip, as most shots in the woods arise.
The size gives me almost no preference, it should not only shoulder camera. Without LCD synonymous, I can live. With would be perfect.
I've read that of second-hand camera is discouraged. Are the parts really so vulnerable? The 100 ¬, I would not be synonymous to the window bouncers.
As used with DSLR I have only good experiences.
How is the picture quality of Hi8 semi older models? The picture should be better than of 99 ¬ Mini DV Cams from the discounters, but takes a long time no HD. A Picture is sharp enough.
It would be really nice if I get something to the matter say. Experience, potential models or related links are welcome.
In that sense ever thank you!
Antwort von ksr:
So sorry's doing to me - but your budget is definitely too small for what to shoot halfway sensible to buy: (
Think about times when your hobby is photography: What would you advise someone who asks you what they buy for 100 ¬ so as to make it in good quality, with many manual controls and less light synonymous with great results?
Buying Used in principle: For camcorders with tape drives, you just never know how "abgenudelt" (= head high number of hours) already are and how the owner handled so is ... That is a gamble, of course, where you can have luck synonymous.
On the subject Hi8: Sure, there were good Hi8 equipment - but if you cut the film s.PC want, you have the material digitizer. Any cheap video card, etc. is not a good result. A very good result but it is important to set the maximum from the Hi8 material into the PC to bring! Consequently, you have a good converter to invest ... because digital is a much more useful!
Concentration on (download brand new product) MiniDV Discontinued models - which are still relatively good and inexpensive! And despite everything could s.ehesten meet your demands.
Can you maybe do not put money together, if you're a team?
Antwort von don_dima:
Hmm, then I had probably but a false picture of the whole.
Thanks for your opinion.
Then I will need to continue between the Mini DV devices. Previously I had the Panasonic NV-GS330 in the eye. Eventually the money I would have been together ...
Is there something useful down?
The team I would have time to address.
Antwort von Johannes:
If thou sayest Hi8 fall spontaneously with the Canon ex1 / 2, is the predecessor of the Canon XL1. Here in the Forum any person who sells synonymous. It is really in your budget, is medium in size and as you can get a lot of manual settings.
The link to offer:
http://forum.slashcam.de/verkaufe-canon-ex-1-set-vt67953.html
Antwort von don_dima:
The EX 1 is going in the right direction.
I think only because it was a mistake on my part before.
Is there Hi8 digital devices? Or what is the difference to Digital8?
So far, I thought that would be Hi8 digital.
I have a Macbook and would things have to be synonymous to edit. So the films via firewire import ...
This is probably the death knell of my consideration, or is there still a possibility?
Antwort von Johannes:
You have to you have a Digital8 to capture the hollow and the Firewire has Tapegröße is identical. Otherwise you need an A / D converter, there is the example of Pinacle or at the Conrad's synonymous.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Is there Hi8 digital devices? Or what is the difference to Digital8 ... Hi8 is an improved version of Video8 and also the same as this one. Digital8 is the Video8/Hi8-Kassetten recorded in DV format. A large part of the D8-(especially the older series) could play the analog format, digitally convert and output via firewire - the whole D8 system is then s.sich just been introduced to Video8/Hi8-Besitzern the switch to digital recording easier.
Antwort von Johannes:
... Is there Hi8 digital devices? Or what is the difference to Digital8 ...
Hi8 is an improved version of Video8 and also the same as this one. Digital8 is the Video8/Hi8-Kassetten recorded in DV format. A large part of the D8-(especially the older series) could play the analog format, digitally convert and output via firewire - the whole D8 system is then s.sich just been introduced to Video8/Hi8-Besitzern the switch to digital recording easier. What we want then HD (V) prepared ;-)
Antwort von shipoffools:
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Then I will need to continue between the Mini DV devices. ...
Is there something useful down?
Currently there are constantly new mini-DV - eg of Samsung or JVC in various supermarkets and wholesale markets (a la Lidl, real, market purchase, buying land, etc.) at prices between 150 and 200 euros. As the image quality of this device is, I can not say, but worse than that of a used Hi8 for 100 to 200 euro it will not be synonymous ... Of manual controls will stop hapern's ...
If it's still a price for the really useful image quality, what you will not Used "drum rum" come, and since then I would rather synonymous to Mini-DV tend to be too Hi8. We recommend, for example, something like the SonyDCR-HC14e or the DCR-HC15e. It cost 4 years ago to 500 to 600 euros and is regularly used by 100 euros to purchase. Returns the price for a top-quality. Manual controls are kept in limits, but for the price you can not expect too much (even manual focus, manual exposure setting, different Programmmodi, White Balance auto + interior + exterior + hold, manual micro-level).
But as I said above, is used as synonymous always a little gamble.
Greeting
shipoffools
Antwort von don_dima:
Currently there are constantly new mini-DV - eg of Samsung or JVC in various supermarkets and wholesale markets (a la Lidl, real, market purchase, buying land, etc.) at prices between 150 and 200 euros. As the image quality of this device is, I can not say I once edited a video that a friend of me with his Canon MV 600 has done. For me, the quality grade times for the mobile phone display enough. I was already terrified.
With the tip of SonyHC14e next time I am only 10 times zoom and a 1/4.0 "sensor should be a little better I hope.
I still looking for a Panasonic NV-DX100. It's on ebay recently üfr 140 ¬ has been auctioned. If I have luck, it should be a good price. [/ quote]
Antwort von joerg-emil:
... a Panasonic NV-DX100EG I had synonymous times, is somewhat awkward with the one screw under the unit if you must Headphones? would like, but the device ansich is very robust and makes really good pictures.
... the controls are sufficient for the beginning and she even has a sharpness to Opjektivring scheme ...
... I did it last as capture bitch used and she wanted and did not want to break down ... then they did two years ago sold at Ebay again .... I think for the 180 EUR ....
Disadvantages:
- No manual Tonregelung
- Only in 16:9 letterbox
- There are only relatively small, in the device will be pushed
However, you will for your purposes with the Cam your pleasure ....
Gruß Jörg-Emil
Antwort von tillbaer:
@ DonDima
A little bit I have the feeling that your expectations s.eine used or new cam this price range a little too high. I think the quality of a mv600 not too bad. Sure, the SD quality, but just not SonyVX2100. Maybe you need to either live with the quality of what you for "almost no money, get it or you try to obtain more money, or a little longer to save to an HDV / AVCHD Camera to be able to buy.
That is really not evil intentioned, but I had to start much too high expectations, because of photography I eiegentlich best quality for little money was used. For best video quality but always with a comma shift by about two points connected to the right.
S.besten a look on YouTube and Vimeo examples of your opinion in question Cams, so you're not disappointed later.
Greetings - Til.
Antwort von don_dima:
I see now synonymous, that my s.die quality expectations were too high.
As you say it synonymous, tillbear.
But now I have an accurate idea of what I must adjust. Thanks s.eure tips here!
