Frage von frm:
Hi folks,
I voted for my Ex1 of a 16GB Transcend card (ExpressCard !" / 34 Solid State Disk (SSD) with USB adapter http://shop.transcend.de/product/searchresult.asp?itemid=&query=TS16GSSD34E-M&btnSearch=Los) tested. Unfortunately not successful, he breaks down after about 20 minutes from recording.
Do you have a working solution to the 16 GB really is working correctly?
Thank you very much
Antwort von WoWu:
So's trying times:
http://www.expansys.de/p.aspx?i=146866
or here:
http://us.kensington.com/html/12631.html
Did you predict the card in another system, or "fresh" in the Camera used?
It may be that otherwise the defect management is not working correctly, because the cards do not have their own logic, broken blocks and masking by the user program must be accepted.
And there must have the defective blocks registered, with which the cards are delivered, because as good as no card comes with no defects (up to 40 are allowed).
Therefore the question of what the card was initialized.
Antwort von deti:
Although I have no idea why the Sony firmware so fussy with PCIe card readers is another manufacturer, even though the SxS cards are so inexpensive to have ;-), but ...
It may be that otherwise the defect management is not working correctly, because the cards do not have their own logic, broken blocks and masking by the user program must be accepted. .. because I have little doubt: The Flash Memory Controller, which is part of the medium (eg a SDHC card), shall, inter alia, the Bad Block Management (BBM). This is no additional software support. A storage unit fails, he will usually respond to a reserve block transferred. Only when a flash memory has no more spare blocks available, errors are visible to the user. But this is at today's flash memories are not so good as to create (synonymous for more than 100000 non-write cycles).
(This statement is not true if the media does not have a flash controller, such as Smart Media, XD-Picture Cards and of course raw flash chips).
Of course I would be synonymous interested what the exact causes for the crashes when recording is ... - Because we should look to what mode the SD cards from the card to be addressed, but the artet then immediately turn into a total of Frickelei:)
Antwort von frm:
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It may be that otherwise the defect management is not working correctly, because the cards do not have their own logic, broken blocks and masking by the user program must be accepted.
Since I have not really got a clue.
I did get the card in the camera and formatted. Then I have about 20 min you. From about 20 min kamera said the "media error" and stops recording.
The Kenigsten adapter I have seen, but since I get the card or not? Priced about the Hammer. Do you know the right thing SxS cards funk from the slot and I can close properly?
Antwort von jazzy_d:
The people are beginning to lose the SDHC cards so abzuschleiffen so that the flap can be closed (s.der EX3 goes anyway). The new SanDisk adapter that sometime soon the times come, it is synonymous s.der EX1 to be lockable door.
http://forum.slashcam.de/kensington-7x1-media-reader-funktioniert-with-sony-ex1-ex3--vt64920.html
and
http://www.glasseye.com.au/articles/sdassxs/
Antwort von WoWu:
@ deti
The flash memory controller, which is part of the medium (eg an SDHC card), shall, inter alia, the Bad Block Management (BBM). This is no additional software support. A storage unit fails, he will usually respond to a reserve block transferred. Only when a flash memory has no more spare blocks available, errors are visible to the user. The FMC does the initialization of the
file allocation table, the device does not provide for the self-masking of the defective cells. There is still application programming is required. The marking on the chip but can be deleted, unfortunately synonymous ... and then can such problems may arise.
But I know now, of course not sure if this is the cause, but we had a similar phenomenon once in a P2 and have the cause is pinpointed.
@ Frm
maybe a whole bunch of additional information:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=146972
Antwort von Lutz Dieckmann:
Hi,
Now please do not helped me, I just want a general statement on the subject.
I know there are many alternatives to the not entirely approve of Sony SxS cards. I will always ask for it. Why the Sony card to buy is the question? It's easy! Sonygarantiert 100,000 game operations and 50 years shelf life. There are only the top of a production batch s.den customers.
Ehrlich, who works as a professional knows what a cost of filming. If a card fails, why always synonymous, it is always expensive to shoot than to repeat the same professional card to buy. So simple is this
If you are not working professionally, and that is not meant pejoratively, for which the alternatives are certainly right.
The only times I wanted to get rid of. And - incidentally, no, I will for this statement is not paid, it is my personal opinion.
Greeting
Lutz
Antwort von WoWu:
100,000 gaming operations and 50 years shelf life. The guarantee with the 100,000 already the "INFINIONs" of the world who produce the chips .... However, this is only related to the failure of ALL cells .... So until all the floating gate with electrons are full, no more bytes on the card can be written .... and the 50 years .... pure theory ... when will the next slot's type?
After all, P2 "already" held 6 years. How long will keep PC Express? 2 years, maybe 4? Absolutely not but 50 years.
So everything just advertising slogans, the sound will be great.
There are only the top of a production batch s.den customers. There is no flash, which is not already s.Werk cells are damaged.
Up to 40 is allowed.
Most memory but have enough "reserves" to more than offset .... So what should this top batches be?
And what are the failure of ... Programming the user should identify defective cells and mask .... if the cards are not cheap at work, then do not synonymous with brand cards because the camera thing is ...
Lutz, nothing for ungut ...
Antwort von Lutz Dieckmann:
Hi Wolfgang,
clearly you have legal, user programs should recognize it. I stop twice only recently heard of defective scenes in selbstgebastelten adapters for flash cards for the EX models. Hence my comment. I'm synonymous you think 50 years is difficult to verify to be ;-)) At least for me.
But there are differences in saving, there is s.den many USB sticks can be seen. The very cheap and have more dropouts are significantly slower than the more expensive models. I have examples here lying.
What are the Top batches, of course, because one must rely on the manufacturer's specifications. But the differences are made can be found in many reports in PC magazines to read. So what should probably be tuned. Would synonymous normal. If I would make something, I would have the best products synonymous sell more expensive than the not so good success.
Is everything synonymous only my personal opinion.
Many greetings
Lutz
Antwort von frm:
Lutz I'll give you absolutely right. Sure it's expensive to shoot a repeat. But I thought that there are now so many Herstller of the cards, there might have a different function. For 800 EUR for 16 GB is really not only expensive but I feel bold. But I'll just as accustomed to with my two 8 GB cards work and after they are full to secure laptop.
Has the last half year synonymous works.
hg
Florian
Antwort von Lutz Dieckmann:
Likewise, I would make synonymous. If you have two cards but quite enough. Incidentally, the Endsicherung of the data, I would in the future to make Professional Disc. That makes the price-performance ratio her mind. Sonygarantiert there an (almost) eternal life. At least it is over traditional tapes. As things synonymous in the area are high, what will probably be tuned. One of 50,000, - for a CameraLink output, there is not starting with uncertainties.
But the only s.Rande.
Many greetings
Lutz
Antwort von frm:
I make my data on two separate hard disks (2TB My Book) Local separated and both are not the same old. Normally I would have given a certain synonymous security.
Antwort von Lutz Dieckmann:
Because I give you right, I do it partly as synonymous. My data are on different carriers secured. The halt is the lot of today. Previously, we have just finished a master ;-))
Greeting
Lutz
