Frage von Vonunterwegs:
Did my degree in canon XL2 to review and, where incidentally, I assume SONY PREMIUM. The technician asked me shaken now, why me and my cam that because Antu. He advises of sony in general that the material was too soft and bonded head and roll. He recommends PANASONIC and FUJI.
you only want to participate can s.dieser experience: D
Antwort von hannes:
> You only want to participate can s.dieser experience
which has long been commonplace, why is that when you have not yet arrived?
In such a camera include Panasonic
AY-DVM63PQ and nothing else.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
What is bad for Canon is still a long way for Sony to be Bad. I guess only Sony tapes.
Antwort von Johannes:
I suppose the Sony tapes synonymous, because it is after quali sounds.
I had never been synonymous with a SonyTape a Droup out.
Now there is talk of Fuji bands do not ask me why but I can not from the company. The Fuji Tapes are too cheap and are more often than the recommended TDK tapes but why?
Some advise synonymous of tapes from TDK.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I think just because the Canon cams do not come so clearly not synonymous, they are worse than others. It has already been posted umpteen times even ARD and ZDF thus rotate.
Antwort von Rene K:
So I basically turn on sony premium, with panasonic cameras. manschmal on panasonic tapes with 83 min.
've never made a bad experience.
Incidentally, many turn to I know sony.
Antwort von Johannes:
...
Incidentally, many turn to I know sony. Synonymous with me but because you Sony Tapes & financial everywhere. When I got my XL1S I actually wanted to
Panasonic to change the tapes, but I get nowhere. Then I shared with the TDK synonymous with the beginning, it is not always so easy to come s.welche ran. But every video store has in our Sony.
In the next MediaMarkt had while TDK, Pana and Fuji tapes,
but 5 different Sony cassettes.
Antwort von DennisP.:
Hello,
So I use for my Canon Sony tapes in general, is about a mistake?
Is it really that Sony tapes in my Canon harm?
I like this until now have never heard and am surprised synonymous.
Antwort von Johannes:
Well it seems to be yes s.der mix of Canon and Sony camcorder tapes are available for folgennes problem trozdem change, I would not because then you have the salad.
http://forum.slashcam.de/postet-hier-alle-remove-the-cassette-probleme-bei-der-xm2-pic-vt24454.html?highlight=postet + your + remove + the + cassette + probleme
Antwort von sammy:
I think just because the Canon cams do not come so clearly not synonymous, they are worse than others. It has already been posted umpteen times even ARD and ZDF thus rotate. The wag I zubezweifeln. At least is not a Sony tape cutter voluntarily in his MAZ slide.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Is it really that Sony tapes in my Canon harm? If you are so far no problems then I would not worry too much: Never change a wining team! In general terms, but it seems to be that everything connected with the drive a weakness for Canon camcorders is (noise, "Remove the cassette" error and the sensitivity is synonymous what some tapes are concerned). ZDF and ;-) I also use Sony Premium - but not in Canons.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Markus73:
I think just because the Canon cams do not come so clearly not synonymous, they are worse than others. It has already been posted umpteen times even ARD and ZDF thus rotate.
The wag I zubezweifeln. [...] -> Search!
The issue here again and again. If the tapes were generally as bad as they sometimes are presented here, they barely on the shelves up front for years to come.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Vonunterwegs:
I think just because the Canon cams do not come so clearly not synonymous, they are worse than others. It has already been posted dozens of times even the ARD and ZDF thus rotate.
The wag I zubezweifeln. [...]
-> Search!
The issue here again and again. If the tapes were generally as bad as they sometimes are presented here, they barely on the shelves up front for years to come.
Gruß,
Markus understand. but what an engineer would have a workshop like this canon, a falsehood to others? he said zb synonymous, that they panasonic tapes for calibration of equipment used because it is the standard body. He seemed to me synonymous really competent - well, you can be wrong from time to time.
I can imagine that the tapes sony something cheaper made, but synonymous another target (zb.urlaubsfilmer) target.
pana-tapes which are already significantly more expensive and are so S.2, 99 per tape. that is, then, rather in the direction Prosumer / profit, right?
bye the way: how come since the tapes away in your assessment?
PANASONIC AY-DVM80YE (80 MIN SP MODE)
PANASONIC AY-DVM60YE (60 MIN SP MODE)
PANASONIC AY-DVM80FE (80 MIN SP MODE)
thank you very much
wish a relaxing tach ...
:)
Antwort von Markus73:
understand. but what an engineer would have a workshop like this canon, a falsehood to others? A certain degree of incompatibility with Canon cameras is repeatedly reported. But why are the tapes are not always inferior. Elsewhere they seem to work for years without problems.
Gruß,
Mark (in his synonymous but Panasonic Panasonic uses tapes)
Antwort von Vonunterwegs:
understand. but what an engineer would have a workshop like this canon, a falsehood to others?
A certain degree of incompatibility with Canon cameras is repeatedly reported. But why are the tapes are not always inferior. Elsewhere they seem to work for years without problems.
Gruß,
Mark (in his synonymous but Panasonic Panasonic uses tapes) Thank you! ;)
Antwort von sammy:
I use currently expensive Panasonic tapes for the extra 3CCD camcorder for my 180th GS I would like to switch to other Panasonicbänder, which are more favorable. What would you recommend to me since that I sow synonymous in the Mac do?
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I am always a little disappointed what some people here so let go. The fact is the Sony tapes are soft as we already had so often here. The Pana will be harder but the head wear rather, which I have already synonymous of the öffteren read them. You can now decide whether to head with the supposedly Sonyzuschmieren want and then clean, or whether the head abraspeln want and then replace it. Weis is not what is better.
Antwort von sammy:
Do you like it if you so choose with heads smeared and associated erroneous recording live or whether you can every 1000 operating hours a new head drum bez. A new CAM besorgs.
Personally, I prefer safer recordings apart from that it is of course synonymous s.der CAM which is now the tapes are more suitable.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I think you have to wear but synonymous to the tapes and if you are re-insert the old tapes, I do not know whether this is good. As I said I'm not a professional but I'm already thinking that. I think the best is always the same tapes to use when one is already with another variety has begun, it is always bad to change it.
Antwort von AndyZZ:
I am always a little disappointed what some people here so let go.
Why? What is being released here?
The fact is the Sony tapes are soft as we already had so often here. The Pana will be harder but the head wear rather, which I have already synonymous of the öffteren read them. You can now decide whether to head with the supposedly Sonyzuschmieren want and then clean, or whether the head abraspeln want and then replace it. Weis is not what is better. The fact is ... and then comes back synonymous only hearsay. Should, could, allegedly .... These are not facts. We have no facts about the tapes, only experiences. Since everyone has to rhyme together.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I think with the release again and again and always maintains the last Sonyder is dirty and most of them use it, and has been synonymous to the ZDF use into question, unfortunately, knows the thread no longer wants him and not looking synonymous. If you have a SonyCam may have no problem using Sony tapes, I think times. If you have a CanonCam has always and only use Sony tapes synonymous think I get no problems, believe it or the drives of the properties are so different?
Antwort von ruessel:
believe her or the drives of the properties are so different? Yes, in any case ....
SonyHC1 + SonyHC3 + SonyFX1 = 2 years since Sony Premium tapes for 2 Euro set, never problems with it, whether in the heated to 50 degrees or Lakierhalle filmed outdoors at Frost ......
Canon XH A1 = 5 of 5 tapes Premium Picture and Sound
total failure with it. Even your own Canon HDV tape made synonymous with me and other XH A1 cameras occasionally sharp drop ..... I myself could s.zwei XH A1 test, the tape s.den points of the dropouts in the HC1 inserted correctly characterized on contrast.
Canon HV20 = 1 Premium tape used S.4 bodies and dropouts, the same tape in the trash .... is not easy with Canon.
Conclusion = Sonybaut the tape drives better .... For Canon, you can better Panasonic AY-DVM63AMQ use me a can of superstition, but the band dropouts have decreased to a minimum .... hopefully remain so.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
And you have never any other brand in the premium Canons had except as you've tested. In plain text, the Canon Cam has never seen any other tape? That would be really a KO criterion for me and Canon.
Antwort von glumschie:
In plain text, the Canon Cam has never seen any other tape? Right. Brand new camera ..... 0 Operating hours.
Antwort von ruessel:
Right. Brand new camera ..... 0 Operating hours. That was just me, sorry, I forgot to register.
Antwort von ruessel:
In another forum is rumored that Canon dirty head drums in their camcorder installed, after a few long hours of operation, the dropouts disappear ..... or more cleaning tapes.
I myself do not believe it, but otherwise about the successful band does not change so quickly without dropouts ... he's now so all the (estimated) 3 tapes once briefly. Nevertheless, I am superior to a hard disk drive (synonymous) so moving.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Yes I think it will really give variations of the viscera. Strangely, the Canon since so much trouble with the band's choice. The hammer is but the tape does not own funzt times, so I will definitely not buy the Canon really frightens me ab.Aber thanks for your info.
Antwort von ruessel:
Strangely, the Canon since so much trouble with the band's choice. Well, you have but synonymous mention that not every owner of this Canon has trouble! My experience is limited only to two synonymous XH A1 and an HV20 .... then take it to 100%. This reflects the HV20 is better than the big sister, but whether every 15 minutes or 10 drop in 15 minutes .... both versions are bad shots in key ..... Therefore, I only Panasonic tapes.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
What are you doing but if it is in the extreme case, no Pana tapes should give more. That would be my argument that I in no way a Canon I would buy. Something else, it would naturally produce itself if Canon would be synonymous but then 100% funzen because you can almost certainly be the one in the coming years is prepared.
Antwort von ruessel:
What are you doing but if it is in the extreme case, no Pana tapes should give more. That would be my argument that I in no way a Canon I would buy. Not so änstlich! Why should it not give in 2 years? But you buy a large stock ;-)
tapes are completely out anyway. Who ever has rotated with AVCHD missing tapes are not really .... but that is an entirely different matter.
Antwort von glumschie:
I have with my XH A1 head about 50 hours, and only Sony Premium (until now) no dropouts. I hope it remains so. But until now, no problems ...
Antwort von BananaDragon:
Good to know, get the XH-A1 synonymous end of the month and hope not to have to change because I've only used Sony Premium did.
Antwort von glumschie:
I have with my XH A1 head about 50 hours, and only Sony Premium (until now) no dropouts. I hope it remains so. But until now, no problems ... exotic!
gruß dersonytapesinsonycamsnutzt cj
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
@ trunk
But for archiving, there is nothing better than the DV tape. That must be me in the next Cam already carefully about whether there is any other than with DV tape will be. I am secure in all avi files synonymous addition to two ext. Plates but there is already a good feeling when you then have two extra tapes in the archive.
Antwort von klabauTamann:
What is actually in principle with the 90 - or 120min Tapes?
Is it possible to use with quiet conscience, or do I need to with inferior quality (because of the longer playing time) expect?
Hm ..
Antwort von Markus73:
What is actually in principle with the 90 - or 120min Tapes? There's not :-) There are 60 and 80 minutes. With Long Play mode, then run these tapes 90 or 120 minutes.
Generally speaking nothing against the "longer", there were only leading to this topic:
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=230569 # 230569
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I have looked at the linked thread is not quite synonymous not read the stuff is linked. But I think times have read the lengthy tapes which a thinner material and thus I would not necessarily be used if it is otherwise synonymous.
Antwort von ruessel:
@ trunk
But for archiving, there is nothing better than the DV tape. I see too slowly otherwise. In recent months I have had a lot with the AVCHD format had to do, here I find it refreshing, the video in seconds or minutes to a Terrabyteplatte copy, this does not cost the world and it fit 125 hours on it .... Data for a second to reflect and buy for the next 4 years is calm. Thereafter, most anything on blu-ray computer, 2-3 euros for the disc
The tape died out! The bells ringing already ..... ;-)
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Yes, I think extinct synonymous it is. I do it with the current material synonymous so that I, there are two parallel plates 500Gig safe.
What struck me in the bands is simply disturbs the drive, simply because I always had a bad feeling when I go through a lot and leave again, etc. etc. must stop. The mechanics is just not very high quality when I watch myself so, no preference for what camcorder. Because hard disks are synonymous or camcorder to record a better card, etc. I think the holiday synonymous with sand and wind you will not have to be careful so as dvBand.
Antwort von Cookie:
Hi folks,
synonymous if I do not very often and a lot of recording, so I am synonymous wondered how s.besten archived.
Have just after the HD-geguckt Prices. Ne 500GB disk costs synonymous only <100 ¬ and fit as much as ~ 50h Film drauf.
But what do you then really with the old tapes? Also remove or reuse as a backup? The latter I as "not recommended" in memory. Is actually in the bands prices need not necessarily synonymous.
But again back to the original topic: I think times is that the mixing of different bands is not so great, since the different coatings may produce a lubricating film. (When the music cassettes was synonymous times claimed if CR / FE (?) Were mixed tapes)
I have so far with my MVX4i only the cheap tapes of Panasonic AY-DVM 60 FE cassettes. Speaks as a lump sum against what?
So far, I think only once seen an artifact (at ~ 15h).
Regards,
Jan
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Jan, for your permanent s.liebsten Panas with your Canon is the best and do not use any other brands anymore. I have my Sony yet another tape never brought out once a Fuji or TDK weis is no longer accurate, otherwise only Sony tapes. I archive all tapes twice and examples they just once synonymous.
Antwort von RupertGr8:
@ trunk
But for archiving, there is nothing better than the DV tape.
I see too slowly otherwise. In recent months I have had a lot with the AVCHD format had to do, here I find it refreshing, the video in seconds or minutes to a Terrabyteplatte copy, this does not cost the world and it fit 125 hours on it .... Data for a second to reflect and buy for the next 4 years is calm. Thereafter, most anything on blu-ray computer, 2-3 euros for the disc
The tape died out! The bells ringing already ..... ;-) This is certainly true, but that save on the hd I doubt is the best ... because what needs to happen direction archived.
currently is with me, the core archive the band, everything on my hd
saved is a security but probably not permanent .....
early as 4 years old must be persuasive of the IDES
to Satas or whatever ...
hd crashes and gabs with me already synonymous with specifically endorse external usbs.
what is on the hd is good for quick access!
gruß cj
ps. and yet the band is much more practical than those in urlaub hds and the laptop.
Antwort von Tim.Krieger:
Hello!
The ZDF has SonyMiniDVs against what I can confirm .. During my internship (unpaid, incidentally ...) told me that the chief editor of From SonyDVs why I since an arc around the things made. Can of course, all legend, but the rumor keeps on Lerchenberg any rate stubbornly ..
Regards
Tim
