Frage von Ackie:
Hello,
've recently been a GS-280 (approximately 8 years before I had an NV-DA1).
When you buy the tapes for the 280, I was advised of the 80 tapes. "They're too thin". In DA1, I worked almost exclusively with 80 bands, never had any problems.
I know that the 80 tapes in Comparison to 60 sec. Expensive. But there are situations where there would have been happy to have a longer duration.
Can someone do me gben one recommendation?
I know this issue has been discussed here many times tapes, but I can bezügl. 60's / 80's do not really see what viable.
Thank you.
Antwort von steveb:
There are of special 3ccd Panasonic tapes. Are recommended.
Antwort von peha:
I was advised of the 80 bands. "They're too thin". ?
When used in my Sony camcorder gabs so far no problems.
Gruss
ph
Antwort von hannes:
'I know that the 80 tapes in Comparison to 60 sec. Expensive. But there are situations where there would have been happy to have a longer duration.
If your camera what you want to do good, take the professional bands of Panasonic. (AY-DVM63PQ or 83PQ) The synonymous are suitable for LP.
Do you play it remains the same device in the computer, with which they were aufgezeignet, gibts synonymous no trace location problems.
Antwort von Jan:
The 80 minute tape is the same as VHS 300, has a relative or others have had bad experiences.
Yes Panasonic tapes are good FE simple, the "3 CCD" are tapes YE very good - thanks to improved density, PQ is so with the best MiniDv tape what it is - depending on the price.
LG
Jan
Antwort von Nightfly!:
Hi Akki!
Must / Must not be more Panasonic. (eg I use only SonyExcell ...).
It is ESSENTIAL that you if you already have tapes and do not want to use this camcorder shuffle different varieties.
Mixing the tapes with the slight abrasion may lead to problems:
- More abrasive
- Chemical reactions that affect the quality of the band
Gruß,
Nightfly!
Antwort von Ackie:
Super, Thanks for the many replies.
if I prefer the checksum by the answers, so there is nothing against 80 tapes.
Get me time to look after the PQ or the YE.
Antwort von Jan:
Panasonic does not recommend, however, of 80 bands, at least in the broadcast area for the 100th AG DVX
Panasonic AG DVX 100 LG
Jan
Antwort von schumi65:
Video Hello Friends,
I use the current thread time to get rid of a general question regarding the Panasonic tapes:
Is there a purely optical discernible difference in results between the film strips and DVM63PQ AY-AY-DVM-60YE, between the professional band and the bands that are recommended for 3CCD?
Ironically, the YE-tapes a little more expensive here than the often praised PQ's. And wearum be found on the website of Panasonic no reference to the PQ's??
Antwort von hannes:
'And wearum be found on the website of Panasonic no reference to the PQ's??
Because these tapes are sold only through the professional trade.
(usually synonymous only by the box, not individually)
For quality:
it is not "visible", as is digital now sometimes only 1 + 0,
so long, so long as everything is in order.
If only times on dropouts, which is synonymous Blidqulität quickly lost.
Then come blocks and stripes and everything ....
For DV this is not quite as bad as all the cameras have a good error correction. But that happens in HD in an I-frame, things look considerably different.
To ... 83PQ:
I use exclusively in the LP mode, just when about 2 hours are needed. But then be synonymous of playing the camera (because of the track position) and not from the DV recorder. Thus gabs so synonymous have any problems.
But, as always Holger S says:
"But do what you want"
Antwort von schumi65:
Hello Hannes,
thank you for your answer. So I understand correctly that for example the higher particle density of the YE-make tapes primarily for stability of the recordings, so as to reduce dropouts? The exterior picture of the recordings remains unaffected, so no "better colors" or "better contrast," etc.?
Antwort von hannes:
EXACT
Antwort von Ackie:
Hello Forum,
Thanks for the responses thus far. Synonymous've already found my fovorisiertes tape (or 83PQ ... ... 80YE) but now I have three questions:
1. In beiner research, I came across several times on tapes with or without the chip. For what this chip is good / what makes this chip, or you need him?
2. Sufficient for standard shots (from my brother wedding, summer vacation, etc.) synonymous cheaper cartridges, or are we really the only 3CCD camcorder to use "expensive" tapes?
3. Where is the technical difference between a "normal" tape and a "master" tape (The 83PQ is partially favorable than the 80YE?)?
Thank you very much,
Acki
Antwort von Jan:
1. Oh yes my first mistake here September 05 because I wanted draufspeichern the Faderfunktion with, so the chip will be required eg:
Search by title of recording
Show of titles
Creating your own tracks
Naming of cassettes
Thanks Jens
"Is there a chip in the cassette, the band remembers the end, synonymous if the tape was removed in the meantime, you can type a table of contents ...
Thanks to Gamma nail / Kiara Borini
Supplement: Looking for photos (still images stored on the tape, if the storage of still images is possible on the tape) and indices (plural of index)
Thanks Mark
Useless at the moment but I have time in the manuals of Canon, JVC, Panasonic and Sonyof camcorders of 2005 / 2006 looked, JVC and Panasonic want to not comment so (no), and consumer guides in all of Sony & Canon consumer camcorder 2005 / 2006 is available - IC memory is not supported.
2. As you may argue, for permanent, long-play recording and dubbing often would be a better Coated interesting to see some pro's synonymous use the Sony Premium's simple - because you see everyone has a different favorite ...
3. Well eingentlich the Panasonic Preisstafflung FE - YE - PQ / AMQ, the PQ was indeed a well kept secret of a user's here, usually they are more expensive than the consumer 3 "CCD" cassettes YE's. The exact differences are well explained in Pana:
FE YE PQ AMQ LG
Jan
Antwort von schumi65:
Hi Jan,
So that's what I call once again an accurate specification! Thanks.
Antwort von Ackie:
Hello,
bring the matter of my Page views to a conclusion:
I opted for the AY-DVM83PQ of Panasonic.
Then I jump 5 pieces of "dvtape.de" ordered. (This is probably the cheapest provider for this synonymous tapes.)
Thank you for the many replies.
Acki
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Who do you want something a long time of your camcorder, I advise you most urgently, with only a band places to stay! The problem with the various lubricants was discussed in a thread once in full detail. And it's true. I then had exactly 1 years old joy s.meiner Canon MVX2i to me at that time with 2nd Battery and WW has some cost 1200EUR (is now a nice AV) converter.
By thoughtless and excessive use of different mix tapes was thrown out the window Money. A repair would have been too expensive (wear, especially video head of the warranty are excluded).
I now take only of PDV-40N Sony, reel in the camcorder only in extreme emergencies. Reverse I'm only with this part of Hama:
http://www.conrad.de/goto.php?artikel=350388
So, you're with your camcorder in a business that places your band does not ... Suddenly, two types of the store attacked, without you noticing. You should have enough time to take a tape from the shelf and the film both in peace and quiet that even a tripod or you could take from the shelf behind you to make beautiful tranquil images.
Later, you ask the police all over the world why you have not included the two rascals ... what do you say?
Antwort von hannes:
> ... What do you say?
did not have my band (;-)) Places
> .. I advise you
most urgently, with only a band places to stay!
it looks so much better, right?
Antwort von schumi65:
... so slow, I wonder if I should switch my camcorder at all :-))
The parts are really that sensitive to the coils, etc.? I have read about, no other device as many precautions as on your camcorder. When I think there s.meine old tape recorder, man, what you have to put those things in terms of before-and rewind - And? Synonymous they have survived for many years.
That with the "Band varietal purity" is clear to me, I consider myself synonymous because YE (-tapes).
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Yes, they are! 1 YEAR MVX2i! And Sense!
Tapedecks indeed synonymous work differently.
Antwort von VolkerS:
So my "Sönni" has been running flawlessly for six (6) years, and I use different tapes, dubbing the films with the camera to PC and reel synonymous go there and her. Am I just lucky or is jetze wirlich the issue a little exaggerated?
On the other page is indeed of some people here advocated, it is imperative that the entire stock s.tapes umzuspulen at a distance of 6.39478 months or something like that does not deform the winding and transfer them to a new tape in order to Dropouts avoided by Demagnetisierung to And. ...
This indeed does not fit the theory, the camcorder irgenwie conservation by avoiding any unötigte rotation of the drive (or are there only people who have enough coal to take to step for each application the suitable roundworms dubbing or recording drive?)
Was now expressed perhaps a little exaggerated, but as I said,
I have so far of the above. not really score greater attention and everything is running properly.
Antwort von Spell:
Hello,
I am an absolute beginner here in the forum, but I did once read a little bit.
We want to grow us the GS280, and then the tapes according to 63PQ. Would it be the cam already disastrous if I'd use - for reasons of time - for the first images a 60YE and then - if the delivery is done - change the 63PQ?
LG
Marion
Antwort von VolkerS:
Would it be the cam already disastrous if I'd use - for reasons of time - for the first images a 60YE and then - if the delivery is done - change the 63PQ?
LG
Marion Very unfortunate that simply do not work, even unpacking the wrong tape in the vicinity of the camera can even permanently damage them :-))
Seriously, do not worry about it, there is no security with the camera when you insert a supposedly "wrong" tape immediately disintegrates into its component parts.
As I've already written up next, I had different cassettes still synonymous with no problems.
Antwort von Spell:
Very unfortunate that simply do not work, even unpacking the wrong tape in the vicinity of the camera can even permanently damage them :-))
Sowas I'm almost afraid o) * g *
Ok thanks for the reply. They want to stop there for a new device is not necessarily directly what is wrong or broken and I'm here more cautious.
LG
Marion
Antwort von schumi65:
I switched to the synonymous 63PQ, without having problems (a Pana GS180). The prices were ok. For 10 tapes, I have included some tales tax and shipping gelöhnt over 48 Euronen. Comparison to cost me 3 CCD tapes (YE) in the market for almost 15 Euronen Grump. So then I'd rather like the professional bands 63PQ.
Antwort von toni:
Hello,
what are these tapes 63PQ?
I have a current Panasonic catalog (p. 85) in front of me and there is no mention of these tapes.
Antwort von schumi65:
The tapes are professional in the field. That is, Panasonic offers products for the consumer segment called, so the public trading with the target consumer (you and I eg), and also carries products for the broadcast sector called, are here meant professional end users, such as video production studios such as
Nevertheless, one can naturally synonymous than ordinary gasoline, the tapes (eg, the aforementioned purchase Panasonic AY-DVM63PQ) for some merchants (eg www.dvtape.de or times) googling.
Why Panasonic does not make these products accessible to all and brings them into the catalogs, I do not synonymous white. In any event, the professional bands and have better mechanical properties should produce less dropouts, as the consumer products, at least this is confirmed again and again of Forumianern.
Anyway, I think off the tapes and the price is ok (see my Beitreg up next).
