Frage von Reimer Reimer:
Hello!
I have now is to buy already read a lot but still I'm not closer to the decision which I now camcorder.
It should not be more than 500,-euro cost and 16:9 can be synonymous. Then he should make synonymous with something worse light still usable videos.
I stopped getting soon is synonymous of young and the main reason why I want to grow myself a camcorder. However, it should be synonymous serve for other recordings. How to celebrate such holidays or the dog.
I have looked at times as the Panasonic NV-GS180 and the SonyDCR-HC42. With the Sonyja has "only" 1.07 megapixels.
Has anyone of you a recommendation? Perhaps synonymous another model?
Would be very grateful for any tip over, because I have been looking for a little longer and sometimes do not remember next.
Antwort von Reimer Reimer:
I still remember it. Should be mini-DV.
Antwort von steveb:
Panasonic! better the 280s. Then later, remains synonymous cannot go :-) (imho)
Antwort von Acer:
Trust Steve, he's right
Antwort von Markus:
Panasonic! better the 280s. This camcorder model is recommended here strikingly in recent times often. Würde mich mal interested to know what makes this camcorder. But buying hired one? Where else but I only had Sony cameras ... ;-)
Antwort von jabone:
The current Camcordereihe of Panasonic's really quite good. I now have the GS 500 and which is of course the picture quality of her with the GS 280/300 comparable (only slightly bsser maybe) and much better in lowlight.
What I only wonder which is always recommended gS GS 280 and not the 300th The crucial difference is the DV input for the GS 300, but a DV_Eingang is nevertheless an important feature, unless you do not have enough money.
Otherwise, this camcorder is really worth money, Mark.
Antwort von steveb:
The reason is that Acer and meineeiner are registered here under many pseudonyms .....( according to the motto "I'm Brian ... no, my wife and I are Brian ...")
I think it is synonymous make a lot of other cameras, which certainly good service, but they are just always the same "buying arguments" are decisive ... (example: The new "SFT" is ne magazines for all Multimedia stuff - Panasonic again test winner!)
Antwort von steveb:
What I only wonder which is always recommended gS GS 280 and not the 300th The crucial difference is the DV input for the GS 300, but a DV_Eingang is nevertheless an important feature, unless you do not have enough money.
Otherwise, this camcorder is really worth money, Mark. That is what it is. Was synonymous for the 300 .... squinted but the price difference was huge. And only for DV in!? Do not hold so many people ... apparent.
Antwort von Jan:
Tatsch but that's the DV in only a small number of "Experienced user" to use the Ottonormalo burns his films on DVD.
If the limit is really at 500 ¬ is then as usual, the recommendation of my GS 180 - all functions / settings / accessories we have already gone through umpteen times - search function.
The HC 42 is old it's something that's 2005 model and was of the newly slimmed-HC 46 (no AV in / Lanc / Accessory shoe etc) abgelösst, the GS 180, the current model.
Yes HC 42 has AV / DV IN - for the customer, the 2 inputs need interesting, perhaps, the time lapse function / night function best when moving the Panasonic does not have that.
But pretty much everything else speak for GS 180th
LG
January
Antwort von steveb:
na as so often happens, will happen to the layman ... sometimes synonymous an "experienced user" and he notes that additional investment in the 100 ¬ (180zu280), he was angry about it afterwards is not needed, with increasing demands s.seine Camera, to miss missing features. However, it should be in this price range, already a little deal with the matter ....
Antwort von axn:
So the price difference of the 180 to 280 is then something more extreme. 450 to 637Euro.
And if I'm not mistaken, the Sony46 will not be as good as the 42nd Did I read somewhere synonymous. And as was already mentioned it is a bit slimmed down.
As it looks for with the obsolete model of Canon? MVX35i?
Although a bit dated, but yes it still quite expensive.
Antwort von Fireblade900:
Got the camcorder time with these two Nachtmodi tried and he did not even come afterward. You can actually just put the camcorder on a tripod and filmed for a job. But woe if one runs through the picture. Is with you so synonymous that have this camcorder?
Antwort von Jan:
Yes if it can not be illuminated / wants and movement comes into play, look consumer Canon, JVC and Panasonic badly. In Sonydas Nightshot still brings s.Meisten in SonySlow shutter läufts synonymous nothing better.
Also increasing the clever invention for the GS 500 in 0 Lux Night mode, the LCD just as light and then shoot through the viewfinder is very interesting, but as synonymous with movement is the end.
The experienced filmmakers suggest, but rather always a light.
Say "tigert" it actually all through the dark forest at night?
LG
January
Antwort von Ivy:
Hi!
How about real time with ner separate category for "purchase advice. And then it makes ne constant live connection to Jan's cell phone. ;-) The report is among the major retailers who then gets s.and ne commission.
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von jabone:
Do not forget ne Liveschaltung for Acer and because of their SteveB NV-GS 280 recommendations)
Antwort von Jan:
Thanks, but there are similar in many shops "Fite" sellers who either do not have time / inclination to help here with their excellent skills to.
That is not synonymous so hard when you on a daily basis with the Cam's connected, then tried many functions, I'm lucky to even randomly "my" almost 40 Videocam's try when I have time for digicam's / SLR ' s "must" take care of me so I still synonymous, because once an information is already on the track. The time is not enough - Private is indeed synonymous important.
And I'm just over 2 h in an interview for a small forum of the tape Oomph - you might say to me now already wobbly knees are (all battery's loaded? "Are you arrogant?, All the accessories it?, Which extends the battery MKE 300? what they said filmmakers Professional XL 2's with me / us - with the small consumer Panasonic GS 500? etc
LG
January
Antwort von wowzik:
Have the Sony42, 44 and 46 times compared. Can it be the difference between the 46er and the 44er does not really?
Then to the 46er to 42er. The 46 has a Color Slow Shutter. What is that? You need one accessory shoe, which does not have 46? What is MpegMovie: EX? And a signal conversion, the 46 has not synonymous. What is always synonymous!?
The more I read the more confused and undecided I become.
How about with the older model of Canon? MVX35i?
But is it normal that a Manufacturer with a night mode and advertises it can not be filmed but because the camcorder does not hinterherkommt?
I Can the owner of the NV-GS180, or confirm, I may have just done something wrong or it was a defective unit!? Even at very minimal variations in the camcorder did not come. The whole in the night mode. Then there is still the option to turn with the display, which brings nothing at all.
Take the Sony camcorder in night mode actually in color or is this green?
Antwort von steveb:
And I'm just over 2 h in an interview for a small forum of the tape Oomph - you could say to me now already wobbly knees ( They go to the "elimination of competition" synonymous only to the loo!
Antwort von Jan:
Yes Flux (Oomph) was super nice, but somehow you're still excited at a time the tape was in the top 10, video filming, I could not, unfortunately, Label Gun Records (Sony) has decided shortly before the close but the only one's own team with VX could turn 2100th Otherwise I would have time to show what in the ¬ 1000 GS 500 is in lowlight - since the majority will be here by surprise.
Small bugs still synonymous me of the GS have 180 / 300 to 0 lux mode with reversed LCD as a source of light.
LG
January
Antwort von Acer:
Too bad that with the interview video is now nothing.
Still have one question: Could you make a few shots with the GS500 (Tag/Nacht/Low-Light/Kunstlicht/AF- "Test" / Zoom / Focus / vignetting, etc) and then here reinstellen ?...:-)
If the synonymous with the GS280/300 would be OK, that would be sharp. I think that it would in any case and make each synonymous user to choose between these camcorders, and the question of which of these two camcorders is better to be final cleared. ;-)
Perhaps we might then as an extra Browsing category such as "Test Videos - Quality of importing one Cammcorders" in which one can upload their videos!?
Well, I hope that works and all that.
ciao;).
Antwort von Acer:
Oops, that sounds so intrusive ...;.)
Antwort von Ivy:
Jaaaaaaaaaaa, juhuuuuuuuuu, good idea!
I really think everyone always crying out for test shots that were once the opportunity to introduce synonymous. If one imagines a clever system, how to make the images represent, then it could perhaps develop a similar platform as the freeware platform, what do you think?
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von Jan:
Have the Sony42, 44 and 46 times compared. Can it be the difference between the 46er and the 44er does not really?
Then to the 46er to 42er. The 46 has a Color Slow Shutter. What is that? You need one accessory shoe, which does not have 46? What is MpegMovie: EX? And a signal conversion, the 46 has not synonymous. What is always synonymous!?
The more I read the more confused and undecided I become.
How about with the older model of Canon? MVX35i?
But is it normal that a Manufacturer with a night mode and advertises it can not be filmed but because the camcorder does not hinterherkommt?
I Can the owner of the NV-GS180, or confirm, I may have just done something wrong or it was a defective unit!? Even at very minimal variations in the camcorder did not come. The whole in the night mode. Then there is still the option to turn with the display, which brings nothing at all.
Take the Sony camcorder in night mode actually in color or is this green? Yes, many questions, I said to the night mode on consumer except Sony, Samsung times take away, all 3 other big Canon, JVC and Pansonic and have no preference which model the same problem - use it all very slow shutter speeds, slow shutter function is activated Sonywith synonymous , which is already a few years, even for top models ala Pana 500th GS Slow shutter speed = no movement possible.
Sonyhat because their Nightshot and there remain approximately at a fast shutter speed around 1 / 50 and tries to compensate by increasing the / light / Infarotlicht. Yes SonyHC 39,42,44,46 have Nightshot Pros (Color) HC 94 / 96 normal Nightshot (green) sound.
MPEG Movie Saved a poor disbanded on memory cards and film with the most 320x240 / 30fps, Panasonic has not only since Stillimage's coming to SD cards, Sonyand Canon (Motion JPEG) can be both.
Yes HC 44 is basically a 46 without DV In.
HC 42 is the predecessor of HC 46, the basic differences, I had already written.
The shoe is already important for external Micro's, lights (though a bit problematic is attached to the Active Interface Shoe to a normal light, Lanc - camera control over tripod RM Series Sonyzb.
AV in the HC has only 42 of the 3s. No idea what Sonybei the HC 46 with signal conversion means, in AV's they did not.
LG
January
Antwort von Acer:
what do you think? I'm sure, and would find the best possible arguments to the Admis of this intended VERY hard work to convince!
Antwort von Jan:
Too bad that with the interview video is now nothing.
ciao;). Interview already, this time not only live recording.
Eh interview was only about 15 minutes nothing special, it is important to see the concert recordings.
Yes reinstellen can determine later what, but the question is whether the tape's like you in any way, it is more about Gothic / Medieval Metal and bands of Tanzwut - well known in the scene we hear a recording with GS 500th
LG
January
Antwort von jabone:
Why laboriously. Someone can still easily open a thread in the Panasonicbereich-maybe "Test Videos of Panasonic 3ccd" - where all the test videos and other clips to post (or links), with the Pana NV-GS 180/280/300/500 were filmed.
Antwort von Acer:
I s ****, but finds that everything must be in rapidshare, etc. reinstellen. 'm There in terms of viruses is somewhat uncertain. Therefore, it is too serious to download a direct access of WITHIN slashCAM, videos.
Ciao;).
Antwort von Timbo:
Attempt at this, your grandma to borrow from more money, then you can you afford synonymous ne better camera.
Greeting
Napoles
