Infoseite // Neon flickers to NTSC



Frage von DezorianGuy:


Hi!
I just wanted time to know exactly why my HV20 ntsc now artificial, neon tubes, extremely light flickers. Did it with what the aperture setting to do with the HDV format, modes, etc?
My video games on his 42 "lcd s.and you see those bodies extremely light flicker, as I said, what happened to me not so far been noticed.

Dankeschööön.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"DezorianGuy" wrote: ... ... wanted to know why ... the HV20 ntsc ... ... neon light flickers extremely ....
Neither Aperture nor the HDV format are to blame, but the frequencies of the different grids: the U.S. (the NTSC format) are 60Hz, the European countries but 50Hz. The latter is a PAL Camera voted with you then here synonymous had no flicker.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von DezorianGuy:

This means that there is no way to regulate the flow through adapter, etc?

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Antwort von WeiZen:

With a PAL HV20.
USA>>> NTSC 60Hz>>> 59.94 frames
D>>> 50Hz PAL>>> 50 frames

Coincidence? No! The causes lie in the history of TV development.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"DezorianGuy" wrote: This means that there is no way to regulate the flow through adapter, etc?
You'll hardly a fixed wired ceiling light can regulate. If your camcorder (the model not known in detail) has an adjustable closure, which is synonymous, for example, on computer monitors can be synchronized (with which one has the same problem), you can try's. -> Manual

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Antwort von Tuffy:

"Quadruplex" wrote: "DezorianGuy" wrote: This means that there is no way to regulate the flow through adapter, etc?
You'll hardly a fixed wired ceiling light can regulate. If your camcorder (the model not known in detail) has an adjustable closure, which is synonymous, for example, on computer monitors can be synchronized (with which one has the same problem), you can try's. -> Manual

For Canon (at least for the XL) is called the "ClearScan"

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Antwort von DezorianGuy:

This means that I am in no flicker ntsc countries would get, right?

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Antwort von bj-the-oj:

Exactly.

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Antwort von DezorianGuy:

thanks for the info. I have halogen spotlights, which seem to be like this unbetroffen. Is it only "neon" tubes bring a flicker?

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Antwort von Pianist:

"DezorianGuy" wrote: I have halogen spotlights, which seem to be like this unbetroffen. Is it only "neon" tubes bring a flicker?

Everything is accordingly nimble. Halogen bulbs are very sluggish, which have a long A-and Ausschwingzeit. Therefore, the different frequency on them not to.

What the heck are you doing in the middle of Europe with an NTSC camera? Reports for the American or Japanese television?

Matthias

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Antwort von bj-the-oj:

Actually, it should mean for Western Japan, as in the east of Japan, they have again 50 Hz ... and when the small country .... There are things ....

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Antwort von TheBubble:

"DezorianGuy" wrote: This means that there is no way to regulate the flow through adapter, etc?

Theroretisch already: AC -> rectifier -> Chopper -> appropriate lamp. It is likely but cheaper and easier, and a second camera to buy, with the lighting of the "compatible" means.

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Antwort von TheBubble:

"Pianist" wrote:
What the heck are you doing in the middle of Europe with an NTSC camera?

So I would find it good if all the cameras menu, for example, by the choice of frame would allow.

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Antwort von Pianist:

"TheBubble" wrote: So I would find it good if all the cameras menu, for example, by the choice of frame would allow.
Sure, so that people are still more possibilities have set something wrong ... The frequency is not the only technical magnitude, for a change of the standard changed. In my view it does not make sense, of existing standards should be.

Matthias

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Antwort von Markus:

In dimmed light bulbs should be synonymous flicker.

I had a few months ago, a consumer-NTSC Video to DVD dubbing on here and that flickered almost continuously, if not with daylight was filmed. War times more and sometimes less clearly visible. - Gruselig! That would save me the American camcorder (by the low dollar exchange rate) to local devices not worth it.

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Antwort von TheBubble:

"Pianist" wrote: Sure, so that people are still more possibilities have set something wrong ...
Following this reasoning, then it should only cameras with automatic mode, practically without any manual adjustment type. Perhaps synonymous nor what the record only if the automatic smiling faces detected ...

Also, the usual manual controls can be used incorrectly, it can be no argument. A clear recommendation may use the software, a set of dependent / adjustable region, of course, pronounce like when such references appear.

"Pianist" wrote:
In my view it does not make sense, of existing standards should be.

I speak of is not necessarily completely arbitrary settings. But the most common worldwide standards to support, especially if this software and hardware with no modification is possible, but may not wish to be exotic.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"TheBubble" wrote: ... the most common worldwide standards to support ... can not but desire to exotic ...
For an estimated 99% of users this is likely to be a most exotic requirements. Although at least three major manufacturer have shown that it is technically feasible, should this feature of below 10,000 euros Kamerapreis continue to remain the big exception.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von TheBubble:

"Bernd E." wrote: For an estimated 99% of users this is likely to be a most exotic requirements.

As I said: If it is the masses, you can still synonymous omit other controls (white balance, aperture, manual focus, ...). I see the choice of the frame rate setting as one among many.

Even an old webcam that I have, you can in a 50Hz mode switch. How exotic can not be.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Anonymous" wrote: There are things ....
The drive train synonymous with literally double. The older part of the network is Kapspur, the Shinkansen has been standard for the European decision.

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