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Apple has, as of the rumor mill predicted, last night, new MacBook, MacBook Pro and Cinema Display (24 ") are presented. For the portable Macs, a new manufacturing process, in which the housing of the new MacBooks & MacBook Pro from a single aluminum Block herausgefräst will. Apple indicates that this process easier, flatter and more stable while housing production. Among the notable innovations also include: 2 Nvidia graphics chips in the MacBook Pro, with longer battery life for a graphics card can be disabled, with a large glass Multi-Touch trackpad, LED background lighting, environmentally aware production methods, and the conversion to a mini DisplayPort output synonymous with the MacBook Pro to save space. Blu-ray is not supported, however, dropped the Firewire 400 port the MacBook, Firewire 800, however, the MacBook Pro. The following technical data, prices and availability of MacBook, MacBook Pro, and Apple Cinema Display 24 "according to press release:

The new MacBook, the 15-inch MacBook Pro and the 17-inch MacBook Pro are s.sofort and delivered via the Apple Store (www.applestore.de), Apple's retail stores and Apple stores will be available.

MacBook:

The 2.0 GHz 13-inch aluminum MacBook, for 1,199 euros VAT has:

- A 13.3-inch glossy widescreen display with LED backlight and 1280 x 800 resolution;
- A 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3 MB shared L2 cache;
- A 1066 MHz front-side bus;
- 2 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable up to 4 GB;
- An integrated NVIDIA GeForce 9400M GPU;
- A 160 GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm) with Sudden Motion Sensor;
- An 8x SuperDrive (DVD ± R DL / DVD ± RW / CD-RW) drive;
- A Mini DisplayPort output (optionally available adapter);
- Integrated AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless and Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR;
- One Gigabit Ethernet port;
- A built-in iSight video camera;
- Two USB 2.0 connections;
- Optical and analog inputs and outputs for audio;
- A multi-touch glass trackpad, as well as
- A 60-watt MagSafe power adapter.

The 2.4 GHz aluminum MacBook, for 1,499 euros VAT has:

- A 13.3-inch glossy widescreen display with LED backlight and 1280 x 800 resolution;
- A 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3 MB shared L2 cache;
- A 1066 MHz front-side bus;
- 2 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable up to 4 GB;
- An integrated NVIDIA GeForce 9400M GPU;
- A 250 GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm) with Sudden Motion Sensor;
- An 8x SuperDrive (DVD ± R DL / DVD ± RW / CD-RW) drive;
- A Mini DisplayPort output (optionally available adapter);
- Integrated AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless and Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR;
- One Gigabit Ethernet port;
- A built-in iSight video camera;
- Two USB 2.0 connections;
- Optical and analog inputs and outputs for audio;
- A multi-touch glass trackpad and illuminated keyboard; and
- A 60-watt MagSafe power adapter.

Among the configuration options for the MacBook include the upgrade to 4 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, a 250 GB (5400 rpm) or 320 GB (5400 rpm) hard drive, a 128 GB Solid State Drive (Flash Memory), Mini DisplayPort to DVI adapter; Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (for 30-inch Apple Cinema HD display), Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter, Apple USB Modem, Apple Remote, Apple MagSafe Airline Adapter and the AppleCare Protection Plan.

MacBook Pro:

The 2.4 GHz 15-inch aluminum MacBook Pro for 1799 euros including VAT has:

- A 15.4-inch glossy widescreen display with LED backlight and 1440 x 900 resolution;
- A 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3 MB shared L2 cache;
- A 1066 MHz front-side bus;
- 2 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable up to 4 GB;
- An integrated NVIDIA GeForce 9400M GPU;
- An NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT with 256 MB GDDR3 memory;
- A 250 GB Serial ATA hard dr

Antwort von WoWu:

No HDMI instead display port although Apple. As well as Intel UDI-body "mitmischt".
That's the price for the NVIDIA graphics card.
Interestingly, when synonymous expects the development, video and more specific tasks to the GPU more and more suitable for processor architectures (DSPs) to transfer. Good news for all "gebeuteten" AVCHD users after ADOBE now supports such a solution is likely to step in NLEs Apple's probably no longer synonymous far.

Antwort von Abercrombie:

The MacBook has no Firewire more. So the pros at the pros, "as the conference was so beautiful.
Schade.

Antwort von WoWu:

Well yes, but a MacBookPro is obviously synonymous MacBook and who would still buy the larger part, if not at least one additional feature would be ... ?
And the pros, FW really need even less, because most video content is increasingly coming on MXF and USB is actually better suited than FW. Disadvantage of USB is just that the interface always needs a host ... otherwise ... FW has no significant benefits more. In addition, there are USB to all integrated Intel processors, while FW is additional hardware and thus power and space.

Antwort von emu:

Pro and glossy but does not fit together. Why does Apple actually in almost every audit any crap? Want to provoke?
When the first MacBook Pro lacked Firewire 800, but was later re zurückfand his way, the MacBooks only with reflective displays (ok, at least options for the Pro's) and now only have glossy crap on all models.

So I honestly do not believe that Apple so many friends that will make (the first petitions against this decision, there are already) and we can only hope that this decision is withdrawn. The same applies to the synonymous Cinema display - that is before me as a mirror hanging s.den Mac, I prefer to Eizo.

So my opinion is disappointing. Technically a MacBook Pro would be quite interesting, but not with mirror display. And what to ask this black keyboard? I mean, the keyboard has been synonymous with the predecessor models is not high end, but what is now please?

Antwort von emu:

"WoWu" wrote:
And the pros, FW really need even less, because most video content is increasingly coming on MXF and USB is actually better suited than FW.

Na, saying times the musicians among us - you can not just out of Video (synonymous here when the forum is a video). In the audio section makes USB more problems than Firewire (synonymous if the arithmetically really can not understand) and a lot of high-quality interfaces offer no USB to. I would be without firewire with my Fireface 800 (which is practically the standard in many project studios) aufgeschmissen pretty - so this is definitely a no go criterion for very many people.

But synonymous with video: most consumer cams, as the playback Schlampen abused, but offer nothing else other than Firewire? Sure, the trend is towards memory card, but the percentage should probably still a small marginal group.

Antwort von WoWu:

@ Emu

In terms synonymous Audi, I am absolutely of your opinion but the requirements are not synonymous highly comparable, but the "host-less" architecture is all the more important .... Only because of the lower requirements synonymous older Calculator happy times considerably longer involved in such infrastructure and the software is synonymous is not similar renewal cycles.
Only the steps in the video are obviously quite large, even before it was not so long time in SD with 5 MHz, there are at present approx. 150 MHz and the speed to take next.
The consequence from the demands for ever better and higher resolution images with the impact on computer architectures and codecs and file formats. In addition, the innovation cycles have always become smaller and the companies throw almost yearly cycle new devices on the market.
But who prevents it because once someone real-time format on playback bitches "and old recordings, not file-oriented format used synonymous an old calculator to use?
The systems fit together perfectly but what time and again, with right to be proclaimed. Why must there be a new calculator?
The new calculator come only synonymous with the more complex formats to correctly apply and are synonymous so urgently awaits ...
In this respect there is no need to complain .... there are for each system the right format (and vice versa). That makes it even more affordable to older systems ...
And with the fringe group ... I do not know, look at the shelves of the art houses and on the new releases in the mass market consumer devices ..... it is high time that the computer industry follow.

Antwort von emu:

The calculator with the old would certainly be a possibility and there are certainly always some workarounds that you can use to aim still to come. But it would be from the user's view is not easy, if certain standards are maintained simply next? I think it has to do with Firewire! That is neither dead nor in danger of extinction (on the contrary, there is already a successor of Firewire 800) and it would certainly be a cinch been synonymous in the MacBooks to pack (it was previously synonymous).

I think this would not be. But let the market decide.

Antwort von strike300xxx:

So I hold out my first impressions of:

Pro:
- Internal hard drive you can now easily switch without OP
- New iphone-like, touchpad
- Better graphics card
- Again a bit flat
- Better keyboard
- Better, magnetic, shutter
- Better Gummifüsschen

Contra:
- Still no BluRay
- No better Batteries
- No more Firewire 400 (each FW400 but can adapt to FW800)
- No more DVI (only mini-DVI)
- Only Glossy Displays
- No USB 3.0

The design I am now as a matter of taste dar. Can you like, but it is not.

My Conclusion:
The update is mainly cosmetic with a few evolutionary Technicatome gimmicks.
Real revolution would be for me: USB 3 and Blu Ray was.
But the first revision of a new generation should be just at Apple never buy anyway.
I will do my old MBP still retain some ne.

Antwort von WoWu:

@ Strike300xxx

The main innovation for the video user is certainly somewhat lower, however, is that in quite a considerable extent the NVIDIA graphics ensures that in a computer architecture, which actually (exaggerated) for Exel lists has been made and not for image editing, just this application "welfare" is supported.
The new codecs are architectures for how we can preferably be found in DSP and memory devices such as highly specialized for video feed can be found now.
It is here in the forum but already more than a year ago and discussed the problems found in the posts described in detail.
If interested, because you will surely find it.
I think therein lies one of the major changes in the new MacBooks, which are so synonymous adapted s.die requirements of the new ADOBE NLEs.
Sometimes you have to "open up the hood times" to the merits of a new product to see if they are not equal to the hand.

Antwort von vaio:

Hello!

The advantage lies not in the actual graphics performance of the new MBP, but in the longer term, due to the second (not as "powerful") "9400er" Nvdia graphics. The 9600M GT in turn differs from the predecessor "8600M GT" in the performance is not ...

Why do they offer as an upgrade of a 2.8 GHz clocked dual core when it comes with the same TDP, already has a mobile quad (but with 2.5 GHz) there. Well, most people in genuinely new 17 "MBP coming ...

Greeting
Michael

Antwort von WoWu:

Hello Michael ..
I do not quite agree that the 9600er and 8600 do not differ, even if we consider that the 86 to 32bit and the 96 percent to a 64 bit ProZ are synonymous and the DDR3 is twice as large , then of course leads to quite different synonymous tape-and interface widths.
The timing is pretty irrelevant.
And because the processing of the AVC codec significantly different processing requirements s.die in the registers are, the difference for such an application already significant.
It comes in assessing the performance is always in response to the request from the application ....

Antwort von vaio:

Wofgang Hello,

synonymous the 8600er are already with GDDR3 memory (MBP 17 "has him in it ...).
MOBILE Both (!)-Processors have 32 processing units (stream processors), a 128-bit memory interface and both have 512MB of memory (96 max. 1024MB Ram). I do not want to say that both 100% identical, finally, I'm not an Nvidia developer (think the clock rates could be slightly higher, but the notebook manufacturers as their thing anyway).
Nevertheless, from power - and only them, I have written (keyword: "Performance") - are both absolutely at eye level and one is no difference in d. Video Editing (!) Can be observed.

ps: how are you to the statement "32/64-bit processors?

Greeting
Michael

Antwort von vaio:

I again ...

I guess the advantage of the 9600M GT to the 8600M GT is that it is max. 1024 MB RAM can be addressed (8600er max. 512 MB). Just makes the new MBP this advantage not to use, it's synonymous only 512 MB of graphics memory ...
Furthermore, with one doubling of graphics RAM, dual power not let the application is twice as fast.

Apropos advantage: The new "nvidia quadro cx" learns the application of a performance advantage and so you have a synonymous (customer-) benefits. However, there is probably no more of a regular "graphics card" talking. Seems more an integrated solution (according to Adobe products), similar to that of the Matrox already gave / gives ...

Greeting
Michael

Antwort von WoWu:

Hi Michael,
I would reduce the focus on the actual processor and less on a graphics card, so I'm with the actual cards are not so familiar names.
The differences do you see in the Specifications at NVIDIA:
GeForce9600 and 8600GTS.
eg http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8600.html

The link for the 9600 I no longer on hand, but you will find with "Search" synonymous.

Because the execution of the AVC-H264 on existing computer architectures is extremely unsatisfactory runs (with a logical link as of 8-bit values within a 32 bit processor, the higher 24 bits of the registers go unused ¾ and thus the processing capacity is lost) and the ALU is not fast enough with data.
The fast memory access complex data register lines in DSP architectures changes das An FPGA - this approach can perform specific tasks and all data values in a register reserved.
Now, one might debate whether 8600 would have been sufficient or the 9600 as a useful control. But I think this discussion is pointless, because the Apple and in the case of the new MacBooks to the 9600 presentation. You will know why.
Therefore, since I try not next in research to join the cause. I'm just curious on the performance in this specific area.
As it seems, are increasingly well-Manufacturer (synonymous of software) to this "Sidecar (d)" solution.
A year ago, I predicted here in the forum and synonymous words, why this can happen ..... and the noisy "outcry" is triggered ... Now, today we are probably the extent that synonymous doubters are the last to accept that, with just more CPU power or overclocking is not done. Wait times we, as the DSPs do their job.

Antwort von vaio:

Hi Wolfgang!

"Now, one might debate whether 8600 would have been sufficient or the 9600 proves as useful ..."

simply because the mobile processors, the 8xxx series of nvidia no longer be offered ...

"The most important innovation for the video user is certainly somewhat lower, however, is that in quite a considerable extent the NVIDIA graphics ensures that in a computer architecture, which actually (exaggerated) for Exel lists has been made and not for image editing, precisely this use "welfare" is supported ... "
.
"Sometimes you have to" open up the hood times "to the merits of a new product to see if they are not equal to the hand ..."

The difference between the corresponding 8xxx (!) 9xxx is roughly as big as the difference between a Canon HV20 and an HV30 ... I'm saying: The advantage is the longer (battery-) term, due to the economical second image. Perhaps, the new 9600er 4 frames / s. more in the game xy. In the video - / graphics applications, there is no difference.

But is only my opinion. Have neither a MBP or a HV20/30 ...

Yours sincerely
Michael

Antwort von PowerMac:

There are certainly performance advantages for the new card in Motion and Color & co.