Newsmeldung von slashCAM:New Panasonic pro AVCHD camcorders: AG-HMC150 of thomas - 16 Feb 2008 15:34:00 The Panasonic AG-HMC150 is in AVCHD format to inexpensive SD / SDHC card to record, has three 1 / 3 inch 16:9 CCD, a 28mm Leica lens, a 3.5 LCD, XLR, HDMI, optical image stabilization, Connections for Remote control of focus and Start / Stop, a pre-record function (synonymous with their help will have pictures taken just before the recording by Knopfdruch staret), and supports 720/1080 various interlaced and progressive modes with different frame rates (1080/60i, 1080/50i, 1080/30p, 1080/25p, 1080/24p native, 720/60p, 720/50p, 720/30p, 720/25p, and 720/24p). Interesting is the bitrate, it will be recorded with 13 Mbps, but it is a synonymous HQ mode with up to 20Mbps give! Officially, the model will be presented at the NAB show in Las Vegas in mid-April. As the release date is Herbt of 2008 - the price is not yet known.
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Antwort von baerenbold:
... 28 mm Leica lens? - Or maybe the beginning of Aperture 2.8? - Or 2.8 Kg? - 2800 .- or ¬? ...
Antwort von naside-88:
Uh, what do you expect this issue?
Money is not measured in millimeters and visors are not synonymous. So, only filters or focal ring size into account. The filter ring size is probably a purely optical already out, so it is the initial focal length. the question would be if ever converted Photo whether focal or not ...
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
If a converted focal is 28 mm are not bad. Is it a "real" focal would obviously rather lousy. What makes me aback: the missing words "of up ... 'but this can not be a fixed focal length?
Panasonic is unfortunately silent on the homepage a little from this.
BG, Andreas
Antwort von C.I.W:
Since it was something of 12 specialized optical zoom ...
Antwort von Bernd E.:
If a converted focal is 28 mm are not bad. Is it a "real" focal would obviously rather lousy. What makes me aback: the missing words "of up ... 'but this can not be a fixed focal length ???... Honestly, I have obscure the contribution of baerenbold not understood as a serious issue, but in order to eliminate all clarities: The 28mm is the shortest KB equivalent of the zoom focal whose further data are still unknown. Synonymous, incidentally, I had already written:
http://forum.slashcam.de/jetzt-ist-es-soweit-panasonic-ag-hmc-150-profi-avchd-vt58000.html
Source of this is the official press release of Panasonic Broadcast.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
And the good pieces in AVCHD takes on - if the man in the audience for many people ...
Antwort von C.I.W:
Perhaps, the software manufacturer to the trend.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Rather, the hardware manufacturer. Another reason for the 8-core Mac Pro.
Antwort von C.I.W:
According to PC video, a PC with an AMD X2 2x 3GHz AVCHD editing, but because I have my doubts synonymous.
Antwort von naside-88:
where is that it will be up to 20Mbps? in the official press release is just a bit of "a higher bit rate is planned to be incorporated into the HMC150 for higher-level use."
Antwort von Jan:
28 mm focal?
There were already the 32,5 mm old Panasonic models already good.
Times we want to hope that with the Panasonic Wideangle
not too big & directory has vignetting.
Was clear that there is a model of Panasonic will be a Semikamera for AVCHD out a - no other company has more the combination of High Definition MiniDV tape and not wanted.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bernd E.:
where is that it will be up to 20Mbps ... Whether it is really 20 Mbps are currently knows nobody except Panasonic, but there are reports like this:
http://crave.cnet.com/8300-1_105-1-0.html?categoryId=1015
this bit rate, at least suggest.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von naside-88:
SDHC cards would be fast enough for avc-i 50?
Antwort von Jan:
Most cards have at least SDHC Class 4, ie 4 MB / sec always! (pledged) Write Lesegeschwindigeit and therefore 32 MBit / sec - that should be enough. Class 2, but too little.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Valentino:
So for the Camera Moch looks more like a slightly modified HVX200, which nurnoch in AVCHD to.
I've always thought that a kind of Panasonic HVX200 successor with a higher-resolution image converters (maybe times synonymous CMOS) with AVC-Intra (not AVCHD) recording herrausbringt.
Who is filming here in the forum please AVCHD format and can be synonymous Nativ edit? Since I stay at a rather HDV and find the solution of the Sonywith Flasch recorders s.besten.
Only I would now like a camera to get a better picture than with HDV usually unable to get the first HDV cameras are synonymous already well over three years old.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Moch ... for the camera sees, rather a slightly modified HVX200, which nurnoch record in AVCHD will ...'ve always thought that a kind of Panasonic HVX200 successor with a higher-resolution image converters (maybe times synonymous CMOS) with AVC-Intra ( no AVCHD) recording herrausbringt ... Announced was / is of Panasonic so long been both a DVX100 successor, the AVCHD to SD card recording (which now seems the AG-HMC150 has to be) and an HVX200 successor, of which I have only known, that he is not a MiniDV drive, because Panasonic Broadcast camcorder with no tape recording has ceased.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
I've always thought that a kind of Panasonic HVX200 successor with a higher-resolution image converters (maybe times synonymous CMOS) with AVC-Intra (not AVCHD) recording herrausbringt. . It is not fear, if my info correct as of autumn 2008.
HMC 150 is a precursor, which you notice, yes. The latest Consumer Panasonic new AVCHD models already working with 17 Mbit / sec (HS 9) - HMC 150 has been previously developed, but Panasonic has only now decided to market them to "throw". From discussions with staff coming out Panasonic, Canon & Sony have a good pressure in the 2000-6000 class ¬ - Panasonic must now respond.
Well look when the HMC 150 is published here.
It was not quite sure whether your goal for AVCHD Grupe too soon. You can compare it with the Blue Ray development at Sony.
[quote = "Valentino"]
Who is filming here in the forum please AVCHD format and can be synonymous Nativ edit? quote]
As far as I know does Vegas 8 and Edius (no idea what version) quite acceptable, we must not halt 100 ¬ Consumer Programs ala Magix & Co use. In Wolfgang's Video Forum should give it because premiums.
Which programs worked her the HVX 200 files? Since the cost of a program synonymous provides ¬ 500 upwards.
Mid / late 2008, but it made the program better AVC can edit the NLE developers hope, of course synonymous to the improved hardware support.
But the SD cards are still a huge Pros.
Good & fast 16 GB card but now are at around 150-170 ¬, the fall of week to week - the P 2 map of the HVX 200 loses as clear.
VG
Jan
Antwort von wolfgang:
Who is filming here in the forum please AVCHD format and can be synonymous Nativ edit? Since I stay at a rather HDV and find the solution of the Sonywith Flasch recorders s.besten.
Although I myself movies with HDV, have a FX1. But AVCHD is in the area of beginner tools quite well with Pinnacle Studio 11 + Edit gehobeneren in the field of tools of some Vegas 8th In both cases, natively. Furthermore, the matter is now synonymous Ulead VideoStudio 11.5, and Canopus Edius Neo (both is better than conversion to the Canopus HQ codec). As I already wrote s.anderer body - there are solutions to slow but certain.
And yes, please provide her with AVC-I camcorders ... and not with machines, although their camera body top, but again only the current AVCHD codec interface.
Antwort von PowerMac:
As long as the Final Cut Pro, Avid and Premiere does not natively, brings even nix.
Antwort von wolfgang:
So when such format of camcorders available, is synonymous in the case (some) cutting programs available. Not all NLEs halt, but that's another story.
Antwort von WoWu:
As long as the Final Cut Pro, Avid and Premiere does not natively, brings even nix.
Apple has always been a long time to present new.
ADOBE AVID as well as two codecs have bought one of the best currently available is one of the ....
They are already with NLE's to come out if you need it, I am quite sure. The conditions are there.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
[quote = "Jan"]
The latest Consumer Panasonic new AVCHD models already working with 17 Mbit / sec (HS 9) As for the few available, "AVCHD-compatible" editing programs do not know ... But perhaps it's the next update set. The convergence of consumer electronics and PC is something miraculous :-(
Antwort von WoWu:
In MPEG-4/H.264 AVC, it is not a question of bandwidth but more a question of the
Profiles and
Level +
Extras. (NLEs support so no bands, but only tools).
The tools available to support different requirements, and in turn, can be found, depending on the needs in the different profiles and level again.
AVC can be assessed called AVC to understand .... there are slightly different rules than the crude reduction to the broad band.
The NLE, eg (h.264 Main Profile@4.0 or 4.1 level with CABAC) support already achieved first class results with it.
Antwort von salinger:
As long as the Final Cut Pro, Avid and Premiere does not natively, brings even nix.
ADOBE AVID as well as two codecs have bought one of the best currently available is one of the ....
They are already with NLE's to come out if you need it, I am quite sure. The conditions are there. Avid brings the end of February the new info on the planned restructuring and new versions are considered very likely. But just what counts supported format is concerned Avid probably less notable for the company - the offer until today no 720p25p the European HVX200 and how many years, there's the now?
With Final Cut you have less stress because of the HD formats (because yes, you can pretty much cut anything with), so the statement that I do not completely understand (Apple codecs but delivers much faster after that Avid has ever done - or what I missed)?.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Was synonymous only an allegation of WoWu. Apple has at 720/50p quite a lot of time left, as well as 720/25p. But Apple is still much, much faster than Avid and offers more up to date format as Premiere, Vegas and all the others. Namely, almost all professional formats out there. An exception should DNxHD of the Editcam HD Display.
Antwort von salinger:
In MPEG-4/H.264 AVC, it is not a question of bandwidth but more a question of the Profiles and Level + Extras.
Do you have more information on this? Find nothing really useful in google
Antwort von WoWu:
@ PM
Apple has at 720/50p quite a lot of time left, as well as 720/25p If more than 1 year for 720p25 as quite a lot of time considered, like you are right. Then we can AVC therefore expected for 2010 ....
And what has emerged is a more than mise implementation, working in the cut only once every 3 seconds in Nirvana disappear ....
Let's wait times who the nose in front AVC will have ....
@ Host
... clearly there is a lot of precise information. Too much, it is to describe again. (See below)
But if this is part of Main Profile @ Level 4.0 or 4.1 with CABAC makes my wishlist would be the beginning of almost fulfilled.
But I fear it is again something set up on 1440, which is now about to HD specification fits None.
We will see it.
