Frage von atmosfear:
Hello and good morning!
I have already remarked several times that a rendered output of 7.0 AU is much bigger than an exported movie into Premiere 6.5, although it is actually about the same comic!? (Size difference 1:10!)
Now I have looked at that precise. I used a tool to build in me the codec of the AVI's look and found some interesting things:
After Effects 7.0 zum Bild This is the result of AE 7.0 - you can see that the compression on DIB Full-frame is set - so nice uncompressed, as one of the DV-AVI anticipated. The Einstellungin in AE 7.0, in this case
Video for Windows - No Compression Premiere 6.5 DV-AVI (DV-AVI PAL) zum Bild When exporting from Adobe Premiere 6.5 as DV-AVI, I asked then find that the AVI is uncompressed, but with the Microsoft DirectShow codec is encoded and thus had lost s.Qualität! This went against my expectations, because it always means that DV-AVI is the best format for export to be able to further process the result!?
PREMIERE 6.5 Microsoft AVI (No Compression) zum Bild Only when I use the Microsoft AVI container, and had had this set to "No Compression" I came to the conclusion that I had expected. NO COMPRESSION, as you can see the file the codec DIB Full frame, exactly as AE 7.0 ...
Now, my basic knowledge accumulated to date, a hole:)
Captured is still synonymous in the DV-AVI format, right?
And container or codec which must / should now really be used to further process such as an output of Premiere: with AE you to? I always thought that the DV-AVI format would be ideal for it, or do I lie about wrong?
Greetings and thank you for your participation!
Atmosfear
EDIT: images do not seem to work - no idea why!?
Now is the pictures - had problems with space, etc.
Antwort von Marco:
"DV" is a compression. "Uncompressed" is not.
In an AVI which can both be present.
Marco
Antwort von Wiro:
Hello,
You're making a fallacy to make the many.
DV-AVI is by no means uncompressed - 1 sec DV-AVI is around 3.6 MB.
1 sec "uncompressed" are, however, approximately 31 MB!
Read synonymous here for times Gruss Wiro
Antwort von AndyZZ:
When you set in all programs as encoder DV-AVI, then you have these problems not synonymous. You machts yes here only apples and pears, cherries, then ...
Antwort von atmosfear:
Alright, that is, that a DV-AVI (which is already of such a camera does not come) next is compressed when you go out again a Premiere DV-AVI export!?
So I think if the file is compressed, then again and again and thus of saving process to store process always s.Qualität loses.
I have since discovered a box in Premiere to compress with new '- these can be chosen prior to export ...
And, in AE it would be synonymous to use the DV-AVI, which of course would be located somewhere under the container "Video for Windows" to better ...
When used properly then you really have no compression?
THANK YOU
Atmosfear
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
So if you make will no destructive operations (Color correction, etc.), the quality should not decrease. "recompress" would have associated with minimal losses.
I use no compression, for example, with Cinema4D, if I want to render animations with very little loss as possible detailed lines and colors. Would I cut them to convert to DV and then converting to Mpeg2, I would have more loss. I have time with the game Leisure Suit Larry (the EGA version with the high resolution geingen) made a small clip, and for that I had to back up the animations with the Amiga emulator synonymous uncompressed. Everything else, synonymous DV-AVI because of the color compression led to ugly blur.
Of imaging or for an "uncompressed" format would be recommended. As you use either Kodak Cineon (even what older), or SGI BMPs.
Antwort von AndyZZ:
The button "new compact" you should NOT click!
Antwort von atmosfear:
Hello!
Do you mean this box?
zum Bild THANK YOU
Atmosfear
Antwort von AndyZZ:
Genaus NOT click on this box.
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Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
The same problem when I had worked with Premiere6.5 have. This attitude I find completely unnecessary, not really knows what has been thought of as Adobe as they had programmed it. And synonymous in the manual nor the box must be described as a I find even more stupid. Man loses s.Qualität anyway if you want some matters because of the add or edit sch .... MS codec, as it is re-rendered anyway. Can not really understand. With the newer versions you can even thank God disable the MS codec.
Antwort von PoopShooter:
And, in AE it would be synonymous to use the DV-AVI, which of course would be located somewhere under the container "Video for Windows" to better ...
Dv-AVI, you can process them in AE, although it is not optimal. And certainly not if you lot with text / graphical elements are working. This time a link:
http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_page_wrapper.cgi?forumid=2&page=http://www.creativecow.net/articles/hodgetts_philip/titles/index.html
And that's an excerpt:
"If not you want great quality then you will need to follow most of these guidelines but NOT compress to the DV codec. The DV codec is optimized for text. It was designed for real-world images where images blend together rather smoothly without hard lines .
