Frage von GEZIE:
Hello,
verzweivelt am, looking for a new calculator for handling of the shooting I with my Canon HF 100 (AVCHD) aufgenohmen have. Unfortunately, my "old" völlich overwhelmed. Would like to stay in Widows XP, whom it's done, and alls müchte editing program I like to use Pinacle Studio 12, got my old VHS Kaset digitized with Studio 10, it has all worked very well
Can someone help me with the compilation of the individual components so that a quick calculator s.Ender raußkommt? :
Which processor? maybe I 7
graphics card?
Rams? what? how much?
Blu Rey Brennr?
Brener DVD?
and, and man and everything else needed.
Windows XP 32 bit is available, it could change when on 64 where appropriate.
Preiß up to approximately ¬ 2,500
Thanks in advance
Gezi
Antwort von darklord77:
Get a PC with Quad-Raid CPU and system.
Then I was s.Deiner place to advise Vista Business 64 and 8 or more GB of RAM construction.
Be careful with all components on high-quality parts. Which board with that chipset, no Billi Grams, Ne GraKa matching, etc.
XP, I would not use because 32-bit. And XP64 is probably times of the mega-scrap, since there are no drivers for, etc.
Antwort von GEZIE:
Hi,
thanks for the reply
Unfortunately'm an absolute loan, have a good friend of kofiguration in the teeth ausgebissen has. AVCHD is not his world, other a top man
Can you be more specific, which is as good Gr.Karte.
Can you possibly an assly. List with the necessary parts together?
You have to know scheihnst. With Vista, it is OK if no other way, or make it meaningful, good.
Regards
Gezi
Antwort von marsteini:
This money would have di ne MacPro get;)
Ne times but in earnest, the price for what is already usable together ^ ^:
CPU: Quad or i7
RAM: 2, 4 or 8GB, perhaps s.Anfang A bolt with 4GB installed and then still failing NEN second purchase.
Hard Drive: RAID, so depending on how much memory you need, take of the board wanted two plates and let them run in RAID1 (hardware RAID -> SATA disks!)
As long as you are not a lot of 3D animation, the graphics card is not soo much hergeben, but in Grakas know I am not so good ...
OS: Windows XP32 support as well as from Vista32 techn. Max reasons. 3GB RAM, deswgeen empfehele I have a 64bit system.
That means either WinVista64 but no XP64, which is really scrap.
Wart bissl still a lad, or you the beta of Windows 7 down, the duetlich runs faster than Vista, but is still not quite ready ...
Antwort von Manu72:
Hello Gezi,
Although now I'm not exactly synonymous expert HW, but had the same problem and therefore a few experiences. My Conclusion: If you cut AVCHD, with effects and filters and audio, etc. want to edit native ranges synonymous called the HW is not sufficient to result directly from the timeline without rendering view. So smooth preview kannste forget. If this is not so important, is synonymous imo the rendering time and thus the HW unimportant. Whether you are for a few minutes of film one or two hours render synonymous makes no difference - you must not watch it. I did not want a 1000 euro (or so) in new HW invest and am therefore the way through Intermediate codecs are gone and with Canopus Edius Neo. Works fine with my Core2Duo 2.2 GHz and a simple graphics card.
Antwort von weitwinkel:
mal ne ask rangehängt:
what about with 64 bit enabled software from?
what works, what not?
gruß cj
Antwort von Zizi:
Take 32bit!
The 64bit is really total crap!
Only problems with printers, scanners, camcorder software, Wlan,
Periphrie etc.!
It may indeed be that it is always better but I hardly knew a great advantages of the disadvantages of 64bit whose covers!
Also you need synonymous for cutting as little more like 3.5 GB!
It is the hardcore you are the Steven Spielberg Schnittassi ..
But since you AVCHD movies so I doubt it!
In all cases a quad!
Cheap Wenns the Q6600 should be the bar with good cooling to 3.4 Ghz or equal to a Core i7!
RAID 0-1 would be synonymous to superior or even a SSD!
but not with MLC!
I would just as an assembly:
Boxed Intel Q6600 @ 3,4 GHz
Alternative: Intel Core i7-920 Boxed
ASUS P5Q-E
Alternative: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS4 or MSI P45 Platinum
-4GB G. Skill 1000MHz CL5
Alternative: 4GB OCZ 1000MHz CL5
HD 4870
Alternative: 260GTX
-625W Enermax MODU82 + (KM)
Alternative: be quiet Dark Power Pro P7 650W (KM) or Corsair TX 650W or 600W Tagan PipeRock (KM) or Cooler Master Silent Pro 600W
G.Skill-32GB SSD as a system disk! (not a bottleneck through more hard disks)
Alternatively, or as a memory: Samsung F1 1000GB and 2x Western Digital Caviar Blue 640GB in RAID
-Aerocool Extreme Engine 3T black (very quiet and ventilation Stark)
Alternative: Cooler Master CM 690
Come with ~ 1000 ¬ extremely cheap and is hardly as bad if you want 2000 ¬ reinbuttern!
Anything over 1500 ¬ it is only slight more expensive but much faster!
But if you absolutely want to spend 2500 ¬ can synonymous the same power at Apple get with Apple's elegant design and flair.
Antwort von marsteini:
@ Zizi:
Hmm, but I would not like seinsehen me for more money to buy 4GB, of which I am only 7 / 8 can be used. Then would you rather be a 3GB module, which makes it half GB synonymous yes then no difference.
64bit, I can honestly not reinforced, at least in Windows XP's ne disaster, everything up and running. OS X works now on Intel 64bit only because I have no problems - but it's true, unfortunately, very few 64bit applications use ...
That with the Solid-state disk, I can only assist if at all, then only system and DV editing software and play it the temporary folder of the software on the HD set. So I would say that this is not necessarily profitable.
Otherwise, you can really look at the MacPro, only a suggestion, but the price would of fit. Then you still lacks appropriate software and you have to get used s.ein different system. if you want? Quality so that you have in any case ...
Antwort von darklord77:
Take 32bit!
The 64bit is really total crap!
Only problems with printers, scanners, camcorder software, Wlan,
Periphrie etc.!
It may indeed be that it is always better but I hardly knew a great advantages of the disadvantages of 64bit whose covers!
Also you need synonymous for cutting as little more like 3.5 GB!
Huh? Under Vista 64 bit is running as good as anything. There is absolutely no eigendlich Treiberproblmem unless you have antediluvian hardware.
I've been using for over a year since Vista Business 64 and it has everything at once without any problems geklappt.
And Under Win XP are not synonymous responsive 3.5 GB. Although some say something. about 2.3 GB are used effectively of XP. Nothing more.
Advantages of 64-bit: A lot more memory possible!
Advantages of 32-bit: none!
Antwort von Zizi:
So ein scheiß .. 4GB running stable in dual channel, are cheaper in the set anyway and fill in only 2 slots!
I wüße really no reason to be less than 4GB einubauen only wiel Windows zuordenn can not do everything!
Macbook Pro just a reflexion about where money does not matter!
Otherwise, get half price for a 4x so fast PC
with 10x more freeware programs and upgrade for the future! Also those who already prefer to cut a small
Laptop than on a real calculator with great picture and keyboard, etc.!
Is certainly a noble Macbook, efficient and economically
DIY PC alone if you have a little clock rates increase so Renders Quad so AVCHD file out like a Youtube video!
Huh? Under Vista 64 bit is running as good as anything. There is absolutely no eigendlich Treiberproblmem unless you have antediluvian hardware.
I've been using for over a year since Vista Business 64 and it has everything at once without any problems geklappt.
And Under Win XP are not synonymous responsive 3.5 GB. Although some say something. about 2.3 GB are used effectively of XP. Nothing more.
Advantages of 64-bit: A lot more memory possible!
Advantages of 32-bit: none! Then did you luck!
When I ran the printer driver only with sophisticated search the web,
my AVCHD SonyCamsoftware is not 64bit compatible, with a friend, the Wlanstick and printer hardware and some not!
could continue forever tell with similar problems!
And who needs more than 3.5 GB of RAM?
So now I have CS3 PP with 4 video tracks, Photoshop, Media Player, IE Explorrer, Messenger, Skype, Torrent and many many other services and the load under Vista! is currently at 68%!
How is because a normal Menshc with 10 fingers a lot more use?
Do you play besides WoW and Battlefield and incidentally a bench so that you are running 3.5 GB utilization?
I think in 2-3 years, possibly 8Gb of distress when the next Windows + Programs, Games so far are but the bottleneck in my PC is far from being the 4GB Ram but exploded before my RAID0 disk before the memory goes neige The plates are in current PCs what the schnellichkeit Laden when rendering the brakes, etc. are!
Much more important is the schnellichkeit (MHz, timing) of the Rams as the size!
So it should be synonymous with during his Most ..... be ;-)!
But this is like the power adapter, car etc. .. all want it as big as possible whether it is or what it can use to ask until after the purchase!
I had 64 bit with 6GB Ram 32bit I have now synonymous with 6GB only 3.5Gb with more .. I remember loading of 0 different!
Why 8GB when the 3.5GB for the thread creator never rise above 80%?
Antwort von darklord77:
Then did you luck!
When I ran the printer driver only with sophisticated search the web,
my AVCHD SonyCamsoftware is not 64bit compatible, with a friend, the Wlanstick and printer hardware and some not!
could continue forever tell with similar problems!
But this is definitely not s.Vista 64th
This is then s.dem Manufacturer deies you the printer driver does not directly find. You must install the new drivers is clearly yes, Vista has already been a lot of drivers s.Board, but I would anyway always Manufacturer Drivers take.
If what does not work then either the old hardware, so that the manufacturer no longer support there. Or maybe it is the absolute lowest-shit, otherwise I can not explain.
Even for my recording card's 64-bit drivers.
I know some people with Vista 64 have the same positive experience.
Antwort von marsteini:
So ein scheiß .. 4GB running stable in dual channel, are cheaper in the set anyway and fill in only 2 slots!
I wüße really no reason to be less than 4GB einubauen only wiel Windows zuordenn can not do everything! For me the price would be the only argument. Sure you should prefer DC modules in construction, but if you atm has no money for the two bars, then I'll get a single set and later on, later than I'd like two bars in the garbage can join Mues, because the benches are full. ..
I had 64 bit with 6GB Ram 32bit I have now synonymous with 6GB only 3.5Gb with more .. I remember loading of 0 different!
Why 8GB when the 3.5GB for the thread creator never rise above 80%? Yes, unfortunately, use the Programs do not need anything from it or not. I still cut with 2GB SD (HD is synonymous but quite good) - but there was still synonymous times I am good with 1GB SD ausgekommen at ... (if one thinks back quite far gings still synonymous with 133MHz and 64MB RAM; D)
It is true that much is overkill, but if he has money and is ready synonymous, the Internet today!
Antwort von MHK:
when your whole 32Bit/64Bit 3 / 4GB mall even briefly thought my humble opinion:
AVCHD editing ... on my calculator: http://www.sysprofile.de/id46276
Is not no, to say at the moment is modest.
But more to the technical. Vista 64 is definitely mature. Anyone who buys a new system for DV editing should always be> 4GB and install Vista 64 or Windows 7 use. If one driver has problems because it is not necessarily s.Windows but manchml synonymous s.den manufacturers, but that's another shoe.
For your 32-bit debate.
If your installs 4GB, of which 3.5 GB System display, a video editing program normally a maximum of 2GB. This is synonymous limitations of 32bit architecture. Mean, who has started up XP, and then occupied 500MB, can be obtained from the DV video editing program for a maximum of 2GB, the rest up to 3.5 GB is not forfeited, but for other programs at the same time be used. Synonymous, there is sufficient information in the network.
For me, it is with 6 GB so that in the device manager rarely more than 1-2GB for Adobe Premiere to appear, but in the course of time the memory completely full (6GB) and synonymous the swap file grows to over 7GB (I will dnek maldas cached somehow because without it your program is assigned to ...). If I then quit Premiere will be at a stroke 9GB memory released. So the current programs already use the memory you get.
MfG MHK
Antwort von Zizi:
But more to the technical. Vista 64 is definitely mature. Anyone who buys a new system for DV editing should always be> 4GB and install Vista 64 or Windows 7 use. If one driver has problems because it is not necessarily s.Windows but manchml synonymous s.den manufacturers, but that's another shoe. Precisely because of the synonymous to me, I would have this year no 64bit drauf
32bit just because everything is running better because it's massive for the 0815 is programmed and then only for 64bit!
I think a SR11 Camera is not old but whose
bundled software is not 64bit compatible!
Even with my graphics card ATi 4870 1GB I've always 64bit problems / crash the driver triggers the 32bit does not happen!
I knew absolutely no advantage to me would notice under 64bit?
While there is some promise, do notice that no pig!
For your 32-bit debate.
If your installs 4GB, of which 3.5 GB System display, a video editing program normally a maximum of 2GB. This is synonymous limitations of 32bit architecture. So something I have never heard?
We are talking about but not of Vista and XP and Premiere of the 1995th
Source?
Antwort von marsteini:
For your 32-bit debate.
If your installs 4GB, of which 3.5 GB System display, a video editing program normally a maximum of 2GB. This is synonymous limitations of 32bit architecture.
So something I have never heard?
We are talking about but not of Vista and XP and Premiere of the 1995th
Source? True, we talk of Vista. Under Vista, you can assume that the 4GB fully exploited are synonymous if and only 2GB to the editing program over the rest of Vista itself needs;)
Ne but let's face it: I got the Beta W7 and loaded as a virtual PC - it runs faster s.deutlich the beginning of a virtual environment than Vista natively on the same calculator ... synonymous must be s.Anfang not so much rumkonfigurieren like Vista - that one could say it - it is easy (I would have no Mac would in any Case 7 to install the Windows bisjetzt best when synonymous still beta and a lot of OS X abgeschaut ...).
It follows: If to 7 and wait in no case longer buy Vista ...
Antwort von Zizi:
Just so it will be!
Actually, Vista was never intended .. was just a gap filler
between XP and 7 to fortschritt / Design to OSX not alzu
far behind the marked!
Vista should never run correctly .. only to bridge the time!
But that makes mans .. OSX with Windows Vista mix to 50% cheaper to make and already have 7!
Just as it's at all .. makes Manufacturer Apple usually makes it before the other and build it for half!
The price is ultimately responsible for why things ever sell!
Why does everyone over 4GB in the box .. because man is not necessarily needed but because things do not cost more!
I hardly doubt the 20% write more than 2GB need!
Even if they cut AVCHD.
Much more important I find a faster disk (SSD) is a step forward to remember. sollange the RAM is not running at 100% is always the plate of the brakeman in new systems!
For my next system werkelt then IS will be 100% SLC SSD!
Dan takes 10 seconds to boot any more and the rendering is synonymous 5x as fast!
Antwort von pailes:
For my next system werkelt then IS will be 100% SLC SSD!
Dan takes 10 seconds to boot any more and the rendering is synonymous 5x as fast! As if when rendering the plate would be the bottle neck. With AVCHD, we are talking here of data rates in the range 6 to 24mbits / s, even with an intermediate codec like ProRes 422 in the area 145mbits / s werkelt may be an external USB 2.0-disk data quickly enough to read and write.
With your SSD disk can score so maybe because your 32-bit operating system is constantly s.swappen.
5x as fast rendering, I think I lach me limp ...
Antwort von MHK:
So something I have never heard?
We are talking about but not of Vista and XP and Premiere of the 1995th
Source? Just because thou hast heard nothing yet is it not that it is wrong. You will be synonymous to a calculator with 32-bit Windows program with no more than 2GB in Taskmanager seen if you do not have the Windows bootloader have previously modified (they are up to 3GB available, which is always the end of the managed memory of 32-bit Windows is ( should be at 3.1 ...). A simple link is what I call here: http://www.microsoft.com/germany/technet/technetmag/issues/2006/05/insidemsft_mux64.mspx#ELB
Otherwise, Google or various books your friend and helper. Basically this course is to restrictions under 32Bit Windows Vista to / 2008. As with the memory management under Windows Seven looks like I currently do not.
and about SSD's. Ich sag mal so .. which are currently very overvalued. You get if you would like to moderate 3 money damn fast disks, the consumer is on a board in a Raid5 set can. Then you have a multiple s.Kapazität in Verlgeich a SSD and a better performance and a little redundancy.
One does not need access times to zero to cut what is needed is more space .. For Tranferraten said Pailer quite legally synonymous to each plate behind.
MfG MHK
Antwort von soahC:
As I have previously just been in the "Basics: 64-bit" thread I've been using Vista 64 and had never ABSOLUT probleme damit.
I have installed 8Gig Ram, difference is in Premiere and After Effects in particular clearly noticeable and above all measurable.
As can now be so much theory Gequatsche come. 8Gig speed quad and After Effects a lot. End of story!
