Frage von Pax:
Hello together,
like it here .... :
Antwort von Pax:
nobody an answer?
Antwort von Friedhelm Weiss:
Hi,
I have the synonymous NV-GS180 and am very happy with it. Sogut but since I only like movies with tripod, I do not know whether the stable now good or bad, because the 16:9 in anyway disabled. What I know is that with the higher numbers than the 180er a Leica objective is ...
is supposed to be better than that of panasonic (nv-gs180) ...
I stood at that time synonymous between the two and even the NV-GS500er.
but I've decided for 180, because of optical stability was not so important for me;)
So the 180er is a great device:)
mfg Friedhelm Weiss
Antwort von Pax:
Hello,
thank you for your answer.
Is the breakdown correct?
1 - GS180 - lower middle class
2 - GS230 - middle
3 - GS320 - upper middle class
Gruss Pax
Antwort von Marcel H. Parker:
The 180er and 230er which are identical. The 230er is the successor model of the 180er.
Antwort von Pax:
achso
You notice the difference between electronic and optical IS?
Gruss Pax
Antwort von Pax:
Hello,
what would you now recommend a gs180, gs 320 or gs 280?
Gruss
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
Stabilizer?
That's up to you, whether you have an opportunity or an ambitious amateur amateur filmmakers are. As already described remains at 16 / 9 for the GS 180 / 230 from the bar. A digital image is easily lost and is weaker in Lowlight, depending on the degree of experience you see it or not.
GS 280, I would take if you get it yet. The zb no flash, a smaller Station Battery (CGA DU 6) and no microphone input on the GS 320 can be reported, you can only with the lower price of the GS 320 explain.
This GS 320 is now a Turkish menu, a grid lines fade, and photos with 1 million pixels in video mode - which previously only GS 500 states has brought.
Yes GS 180 & 230 Buddies pleased with the microphone input and headphone output, but the two are in light sleep is not as strong as the GS 280 & 320, the latter two are synonymous an S-video cable with included.
The lenses I say now is not so much fun back then synonymous with VAD (Video Active) SonyHC Panasonic GS 23 vs 27
HC 23 - Carl Zeiss - Sharpness - Satisfactory
GS 27 - Panasonic - sharpness - good
HC 23 - Carl Zeiss - Color - fair
GS 27 - Panasonic - Color - good
With a 50-100 ¬ (depending on the camera) Carl Zeiss & Leica is synonymous not so much expect pure Leica lenses cost less than 1000 ¬ good (Leica R 8) when read in conjunction with Zeiss Contax siehts not different.
In another forum it was claimed the "Leica" lenses are from a Panasonic factory and suppliers - which I believe could well .....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus73:
Stabilizer?
That's up to you, whether you have an opportunity or an ambitious amateur amateur filmmakers are. As already described remains at 16 / 9 for the GS 180 / 230 from the bar. A digital image is easily lost and is weaker in Lowlight, depending on the degree of experience you see it or not.
Hello,
as a small supplement a link to another forum where often already discussed the fact that the synonymous optical stabilizers Picture deteriorate when less than synonymous digital:
http://www.pana3ccduser.com/showthread.php?t=2174
I've now read more often (I was completely new) and now start to believe it :-) At least the explanation sounds quite sound.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Jan:
Is synonymous Yes I know, by the gyro sensors "endeckt & weitergemeldet are lens groups from the beam moves, since it must be purely theoretically give losses. I believe but rather very low losses.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Pax:
Abnd,
thanks you for the answers. Garnicht I had thought that now but still has a participatory, respectful, I am =).
So probably the best 280er in the price range.
Suppose I go out there tomorrow and say the 70 ¬ more and we'll give you a 300.
Has the disadvantage 300er Unlike the GS280 or synonymous certain advantages?
Gruss, Pax
Antwort von znieh:
Basically:
Take the 320er at 100 euros more:
1. The OIS works synonymous in Photo mode
2. The OIS is synonymous with 16:9
3. The display has 16:9 format and you will soon eh only film in this format. 16:9 is currently vehemently by würd and I never get 4:3 display camcorder with purchase (which I did and is now synonymous the stupid EIS).
4. Take the 300 if you still get that is better equipped and, above all DV - In!
MfG
Heinz znieh =
Antwort von Marcel H. Parker:
That, however, whether he still Microphone and headphone output desires. As he comes with the 320er is not far.
I can not really understand why this 320er Connections no longer has. Are probably the Rotstrich victims. I could swear that the sales figures would be significantly higher if these connections were available.
Antwort von Pax:
The 300 is actually a 280er with DVin, order there are other differences?
Gruss, Pax
Antwort von Jan:
Exactly right Pax a GS 280 with DV in - whether you need and use, you must know.
I have tens of customers every day, 95% of whom do not want a mic input & headphone output, it is often only stop opportunity filmmaker - is unfortunately the truth.
Pana does what the masses want. Yes I know the mass reads newspaper and verblödet Picture of the day more ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Pax:
Hmm, was there today.
For, only the 320 and the 230 available: (.
What are you working Saturn, vlt komm ich mal xD gone?
Antwort von Jan:
I've only 230er there. GS 280 & 300 only the Internet, in stores because it is difficult.
The 320 Panasonic has locked me in because I have times where a lower selling price, which was of a Munich dealer endeckt and immediately s.Panasonic Hamburg nextübermittelt was .....
So there are price wars synonymous in the stores.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Pax:
Munich, hmm, a bit off: (
I'm here in Saalfeld / Saale is near Jena / Weimar in Thuringia.
Would you say the 320er's s.den 300 ran?
Antwort von Jan:
If you are on the flash, the microphone input, the smaller the included Battery and DV In renounce it - Yes
VG
Jan
Antwort von Pax:
Are the new models only DVD, or why there is only the 320er, 230er the 500s and the?
Gruss
Antwort von Pax:
no one an answer: (?
Gruss Pax
Antwort von Jan:
There are still a GS 60 & 80, yes DVD, SD and HDD are on the rise.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Pax:
Hello,
thank you for your answer.
The GS 60 is really fürn ass, right? (sry..)
What has the GS320 In contrast to GS60 more or less?
Gruss, Pax
Antwort von Pax:
pls answer: (
Antwort von seven21:
Hello,
'm just synonymous with me a camcorder to buy. and I've just started with the initial models involved.
The GS 60 is only 1CCD model and has no 16:9, just EIS. Is just the absolute Einstigesmodell and s.250 Eur already have. DA is synonymous nor the GS 27th Even little cheaper and from what I've read just as well.
Have you noticed rather quickly that you are not long and my joy has determined pay more. Since then the GS 80 comes into play.
Added: 16:9, OIS. Synonymous but "only" 1CCD.
These I have read that the large optical zoom (30x in the field) the image quality press.
In the price category, there is still synonymous to the GS 37, which in turn has but only one is synonymous EIS and a 1CCD device. But it cost almost 400th no idea why so expensive.
Ultimately, then just come 3CCD the devices and different x them synonymous. I have absolutely no idea which of the devices 180 (about 430 Eur), 230 (approx. EUR 410) is better.
The other GS 280 (about 700 Eur), GS 320 (about 500 Eur), GS 500 (approx. EUR 800) will play again on price (and probably in a qualitatively different league).
I think it's synonymous a budget issue
about 300 Eur => GS 27, GS 60, GS 80 (as I would take the 80)
about 400 Eur => GS 37, GS 180, GS230 (????) no idea
The other 3 are both yes synonymous min. $ 100 apart, so that certainly synonymous again a budget issue.
I will probably between the 180 and 230 decide. Do not know yet which of the two it is.
Antwort von Pax:
Hello,
and how are you to 320
So now in comparison to 180 and 230?
Gruss
Antwort von seven21:
The 320 is simply too expensive to me. So I sat down with the differences on the two cheaper models are not yet involved.
Know me from zuwenig synonymous to the price differences to be aware. What is often what makes are the inputs / outputs and possibly the lens used.
But there is certainly the users know better
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
Differences GS 27 & 37 we had here, "together":
Kaufberatung-panasonic-nv-gs27-vs-gs-37 GS GS 180 vs. 230 - I've studied the whole menu and not well established, synonymous Lowlight & stabilizer (at 4:3) were roughly equal. That is, rather than the Panasonic Page still the EIS stability so you can act on activation of the stabilizer function seen. Unlike changing the Canon Wide Anglebei shutdown still does not.
GS 230 is probably much cheaper than the old GS 180 (at least after my purchase at the start of the new GS 230), so probably the first choice.
The majority of the GS 320 GS 280 vs. differences yes, I had already mentioned above.
VG
Jan
