Frage von Termi01:
Hi folks,
I wished I Saturn Today in buying a new camcorder to record smaller films. Max, I would like to spend 300 ¬. I am in the Panasonic NV GS80 and the SonyDCR HC27E stuck. Now I wanted to ask what times of the two would you take? =)
schonmal thank in advance
Antwort von robin1990:
because nobody can give me help?
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
well actually it is likely the GS 80 at Saturn did not give - as business professionals, which showed my stock lists synonymous - at least a few weeks ago. GS 60 is but since.
If you are interested in the GS 80 then speaks almost everything for the model, except for you is something of the following data is really important:
Sony-emotional preferences
- The better night program in motion (professional smile and always use a head light, amateurs are therefore satisfied with NightShot Pros)
- A way an S-video cable adapter
- A few nice features such as point measurement (manual exposure measurement on finger pressure) and Focus Point (manual distance measurement on finger pressure)
- Touch Screen preferences
- Cassette tray top - a bit more logical than Pan GS 60 & 80
- Easy for timid
- GS, over 60 (not 80) improved 16 / 9 mode - GS 60 (cheap Letterbox)
and even some small talk as the HC 27
GS 80 can be with:
- Better image quality (relatively - for professional eye)
- The optical stabilizer
- External battery better choice
- Improved manual exposure control - Shutter, Aperture and the reinforcement and in the well-known figures such as F 1.8 and 1 / 50 sec.
- Supplied with a Charger
- Significantly more Angleals Wide HC 27
- Joystick handling
- Wind Cut + Zoommikro
- Higher optical zoom (but now I would not overestimate)
So what happened to me in the head rapidly to the 2 models of mind.
At the end, but often a gut decision, because the filmmakers Normalo rarely satisfied with both cameras should be the tip of the Forum goes to the GS 80th
But another question, "Why did you not advice - I'm synonymous" only "a seller of Saturn?"
VG
Jan
Antwort von robin1990:
Well the sellers in our Saturn can often forget ^ ^
So would you give me a GS80 rates? Had the feeling when Sonydie quality a bit better would be the picture from? And because of the night program, I have not yet fully understood. Has the GS80 synonymous for one night only program that is not as good as with the Sony?
Antwort von robin1990:
and how are the battery life of the two cameras?
Antwort von Jan:
The included Batteries CGR DU NP 6 and FP 30 are roughly comparable - depending on the user about 45 min to 1 h. In the third choice, the battery Pana but significantly ahead in the network, there is still plenty of NP to FP xx Batteries C Error 04 in the Camera show.
Also known as the outside of Ansmann, Hama Vivanco work or not permanently s.den Sony devices.
Yes, I might add, the more accurate indicator of battery condition Sonydafür commendable, Panasonic has made all consumer models (the grad on the market except for SD-1 & DX 1 - only one bar remaining indicator, not a minute remaining ad like Sony.
The Picture on the LCD can compare it is difficult, which is set or adjusted, the screen has the same resolution and size?, SIS is purely coincidental with the Pana to put out (GS 60), etc. ...
Look at the test times on video pictures of Active, and the corresponding test sentences:
VAD VAD VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan:
VAD is a small error in the GS 60 has a USB interface synonymous. The film will be but for all three models in best quality with plays about Firewire, USB can be used for Webstreaming (s.Win 2000). With USB HC 27 was omitted, as well - then there are no stress only question is how to play ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan:
Oh so totally forgotten, Panasonic used the night program for all consumers - a long shutter speed in Lowlight, which is so at 1/2-1/6 sec, what the picture is bright make but little movement permits. With the new AVCHD SD 5 & DX 5 says it was a 1 / 25 sec can, in some situations which can bring the latest models have, unfortunately, in manual mode, 1 / 50 sec as the longest manual Verschluszeit in video mode.
If Sony Color Slow Shutter or long exposure (2 more Nachtmodis vary depending on the camera) is omitted, you get in a better activation NightShot Picture in motion, as in Sony, where the constant 1 / 50 sec left and with the built-IR and normal light ca 3 m a better picture than a Panasonic with 1 / 50 sec without light how.
VG
Jan
Antwort von robin1990:
mhm okay really serious decision ...
So would you say if I have not actually filming at night and rarely will not be optimal in areas exposed to GS80 should I take? Because now I must somehow decide;)
Antwort von robin1990:
because I think at the GS80 daylight pictures are a bit better, or I see this wrong?
Antwort von Jan:
Well the SonyNightshot Picture has nothing at all synonymous with a well-lit picture to do, but just a little bit better than a night without Pana Picture program. That's why the pros always funny about Nighshot because there always with 3 lights and head light & or (often more than 50 watts) are used, Nighshot is a kind of noisy Horror & Green Stitch program itself must be well aware. So not a program where in bad light at once a clear, bright, unverrauschtes Picture arises ....
With cameras well over 1000 ¬, I am often on the SonyPage, the cheap Panasonic Consumer is often better for me.
So GS 80!
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan85:
okay synonymous and there is still a camera up to 300 ¬ the quality of it is like the GS80 and a Microphone input has?
Antwort von Jan:
Yes - Canon MD 101 / 110 - but a little worse.
Ich hab heut nochmal compatriots, Saturn Kassel, the GS 80 as a single market in Germany is already there. Panasonic is synonymous with a couple of days, the GS 80 for all shops released - so I get what synonymous soon - lucky ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von DocMAX:
s.okay, and other times not matter how it looks in the GS80 and GS60 Comparison? Have the large differences in quality?
Antwort von Jan:
Since the price difference is often only about 20 ¬ is the question is quickly resolved,
a anmorpher 16 / 9 mode (GS 60 has cheap letterbox) and the optical stabilizer (the little picture and no errors as the Digital GS 60) include at least a few more points.
VAD has only one point more, but of course it's worth, the price difference.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Olli2269:
Hello, I am a private detective and the economy, and I've decided for the GS80, and am very happy with it, often at Sonyhat noise in the sound from the drive (had Sony, never again). I needed a camera which I can leave, and that's me! The Panasonic is synonymous been test winner!
I hope I could help!
another thing to Acku, I have two large 2100mAh at large Internet auction company bought 3.2.1, with a Acku films you have several tapes full.
Antwort von Jan:
Hi,
hab noch 2 Advantages of the GS 80 forgotten - Accessory shoe and grid line insertion.
VG
Jan
