Frage von Guzzicam:
Hello,
I have read the tips here. Subsequently, I have a cam in the lower price segment decided - images of children, celebrations, a little bit of nature, excursions and holidays. In the segment for the SonyHC23. No great claims, but: good sound, no drive noise, good stability, no artifacts in low light - but then just perceptible noise.
Sun, and because the problem is now happening: I have a few test shots of the children with normal, decent room lighting, ie 16m ² room with four 60Watt light bulbs - one of them directly on the player gedrichtet, as well as the halogen desk lamp.
Cam On the small screen everything looks great. So everything via firewire on the Calculator (real 1.5 GHz, 512 Ram, 128MB graphics, so well).
And because it looks bad that you can not show. The Picture roars, as shall be subject to evil. (As are the clips of the 60-euro-Cheap Digicam better!) From my point of view is therefore that (my) Camcorders (SonyHC23) absolutely useless.
(I have it original packaging purchased in trade, transportation damage retires from So).
Before getting the thing back into the store now bears the following question:
Since I can not imagine that such a bad Cam is more than a week on the market holds, I think it must be s.mir. But where?
The settings of the Cam are all still at work, I have no movement.
Could it be the calculator? The fact is up to the last slot vollgeknallt and Firewire / USB card for example is right next to the graphics card, then TV card, sound card, NIC ... stört itself as what?
If you need more information - if you like.
Thank you for help and many greetings,
Guzzicam
Antwort von hyneck:
On Television synonymous Noise?
Or just s.PC?
Then it is s.Skalieren the graphics card.
Antwort von Guzzicam:
On television, it is somewhat better.
What is "Scaling the graphics card?
Is it possible to change / adjust?
Thank you in advance for the quick reply.
Guzzicam
Antwort von hyneck:
Hi,
Resolutiondes the monitor screen can be in Windows via
Start
Preferences
System
displayname
Preferences
Setting. The best Resolutionist those of native Resolutiondes monitor.
Gruss
ph
Antwort von Markus:
Hello,
You write in your first posting something of "perceived image noise," so far of an ant colony. Could it be that you are of a cheap camcorder simply expect too much?
Antwort von Markus73:
... Sun, and because the problem is now happening: I have a few test shots of the children with normal, decent room lighting, ie 16m ² room with four 60Watt light bulbs - one of them directly on the player gedrichtet, as well as the halogen desk lamp.
[...] And there is so bad that you can not show. The Picture roars, as shall be subject to evil.
The easiest and most obvious test would be, with the camera a few shots outside during daylight hours to make and to compare. If there is ok, then it is clear that the behavior observed in this camera is normal.
So formidable is the Lighting of you called and not heady test results, the little Sony is not synonymous, it is already possible ...
I have recently known for images of a Panasonic GS20 (should be roughly comparable to) cut, because it grieselte at the interior shots partly synonymous tremendous.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von hyneck:
1. Aha, the native resolution. I of course set.
2. Too much waiting? I do not think so. I am well aware
that I have for 250 euro price performance does not get 2,000 euros. Out
the age, I am long out.
If, however, at normal room lighting, the picture of a person before
a white Rauhfasertapete so grieselt that we think that
Camera would be broken or it's snowing, it can surely not be synonymous.
I do not need a HDTV picture, but one clear. So now I walk in the
Shop where I bought the thing and ask the seller, 20 sec
times of my video on his PC to be drawn. If the picture so as synonymous
as for me, I do not understand that you even want such a
Cam buys. For example, each instance of a family film festival
evening in a room is not possible or ansehbar.
Times I had a VHS-C camera, the picture was there but so what of
more ...
I have a cheap digicam with video capability, as is the synonymous Picture
much better ...
Maybe I have purchased a warranty case.
Or the cards in the PC is disturbing.
Tomorrow more. Until then many thanks in advance.
Guzzicam
Antwort von Markus:
If, however, at normal room lighting, the picture of a person against a white Rauhfasertapete so grieselt that you think the Camera would be broken or it's snowing, it can surely not be synonymous. It is in many camcorders in this class is not possible, ordinary (ie, noise-free) to do interior shots. Often it will muddy the picture, the colors flat and the image noise shows itself as a dominant image content.
What effect should the savings in the manufacture of such a camcorder because otherwise, if not a light weakness?
For example, each instance of a film family celebration dinner in a room is not possible or ansehbar. Apparently you've still retained a certain claim. Many aspiring videographers have not and because they come with green images is because everything has been rotated with NightShot and then find the synonymous still great!
You're certainly not targeting those beginner camcorder. ;-)
Antwort von hyneck:
Good friends.
1. Outdoor reception under a cloudy sky have to Comparison
I just made, I can only tonight but in the
Calculator drag.
2. If I should keep it,
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..... they did everything to excess synonymous no accessory shoe, the
Point I had before actually overlooked because I sowas synonymous
could not imagine. But - before I put them now to my daughter
give:
I've seen, there are lights, with a rail on
Threaded tripod mounted and of a separate battery
be fed. There is what with 3 !!??? Watt, however, synonymous with 15th
Good for what and how many watts should they have to 3-5 m
auszuleuchten?
BTW: great forum here and nice people ...
Greeting
Guzzicam
Antwort von Markus:
Good for what and how many watts should they have to 3-5 m auszuleuchten? To 5 m distance auszuleuchten yet, even 100 watts would be much too weak. Makes sense I find halogen lamps with an output of 20 watts. The proximity to the bright and the batteries still have a certain operating time.
3 watts is only something to keyhole search, but nothing on the video. Peculiar trend: The camcorder will lichtschwächer, the video lights synonymous. An unfavorable combination! ;-)
Similar question:
Antwort von Forumgeist:
Hi
I would not say I know what you have for a VHS-C Camera've paid for, only the most devices I knew at that time have more than 500 DM (about 230 to 250 ¬) tasted, ergo were the most important things like the Optics much better (does not mean it with a higher Resolutionzu legally, but were simply more light).
I come rather from the photo industry, but I think synonymous in the video sector is not unimportant.
From a previous field I do not know everything glänzd what is new, the best current example is probably the Pana GS-280 to your successor, announced yesterday, GS-320.
forum spirited
Antwort von Guzzicam:
OK, daylight shots are already in the class-Cam.
For artificial light indoors, I then yesterday the times
throughout the cheese off and automatic exposure and consorts
manual regulated.
And lo and behold, the result can be seen.
Well, a lamp, I will still growth.
Now it's then s.die software. Movie Maker, I have already
through, I was not sooo bad. Now I am in Ulead Studio8.
Otherwise I find here enough clues.
Thank you for your kind advice.
Many greetings,
Guzzicam
Antwort von Guzzicam:
So, I was yesterday evening when my camcorder Dealers-confidence. He has the same clip that I s.meinem PC at home was so bad at his new super-fast calculator with new graphics card and what I know and monitor geilste drauf played.
The picture was just as humble as my home. It is therefore not s.meinem PC, but clearly s.der Cam. He gave me synonymous confirmed that my picture for such a cam is completely normal.
So, manual rules and Vodeoleuchte turn. As long as there is a solution, is always good.
BTW: I would have the cam on the net purchase, this service I would probably not be able to enjoy - and 209 euros in the specialty for the cam, the network beat eh erstmal ...
Thanks for everything and greetings of
Guzzicam.
Antwort von Forumgeist:
Hi
did you ever see the images on a normal TV viewing?
my when I think about what a Canon XM2 times has cost and how the material on an iMac G4 or G5 looks, the device is no better.
You should always observe the resolution of a computer monitor is much higher (imo, I am still of tube devices).
MfG
Antwort von YourMajesty:
precisely for this reason I am of the HC23 separately. Wanted to get my son 4 months old record - no chance.
With the HC96 gaaanz then everything was different!
Greeting
Tom
