Frage von hubomo:
Hi,
'm new here and have a SonyHDR SR 11E.
Document in May on the Maldives travel and would now like to know what you would recommend me as? Den
Graufilter or Polifilter?
Hab mal heard somewhere that the Polifilter the Graufilter contains.
Is that so?
LG Dennis
Antwort von KrischanDO:
Moin,
a Graufilter, synonymous ND (neutral density, neutral density) called, reduces the
amount of light that goes through the optics. Sonst nix.
You need, if it is very bright. Many cameras have the tilt in the beam installed.
A polarizing filter can reduce reflections, eg on glass or water, or synonymous colors intensify.
It is synonymous influenced the amount of light, depending on the position.
Wikipedia reveals details. Or search the forum.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von domain:
A Graufilter times will not need it anyway (which is already built into the camera) and a polarizer in the rule either. The reflections are an important image feature.
Antwort von WideScreen:
Apart from that I have experienced the Illig (ie just the 20-99 euro) is not worth much, because you may refelxionen of Optics in the Picture may have, if the Sun is unfavorable. Then, dear no.
Antwort von Videofactory:
Well, I've never heard that the SR 11 or 12 has built-ND. Vllt. there could be someone to say yes, as I then Aperture can do entirely on ND and with the slightly darker picture.
For Pol. :
Have
hier
Der im Video verwendete ist of Sonyim Set with einem Schutzfilter (vermute klar oder UV) and bekommt man zusammen für etwa 70 ¬.
Ich habe eigentlich synonymous vor, mir einen Polarisationsfilter anzuschaffen, würde aber lieber einen of BW nehmen (with Käsemann-Technik), kann jemand was zu den Pol. Filtern of BW sagen, ich habe bisher nur gehört, dass BW generell wohl sehr gute herstellt.
Gruß, Alex.
EDIT: Ich habe here
Antwort von KrischanDO:
Hi,
in this Herumgeschwenke on the facade is still a bit more going on than just a polarizer.
There are worlds between the color temperature.
An ordinary polarizer should be only a minimal color shift of the total cause, but otherwise only reduce reflections and green foliage as something rich, because the reflection of the sky (white to blue) is reduced.
The approach of domain, that is an essential reflexes are characteristic picture, in other words, if I understand him correctly, should not be filtered out or should I find something very orthodox. When I fish in the pool or the characters in the window will show or be the reflexes just weggefiltert.
B + W makes good. 'Cheese Man' is, as far as I know, a special climate-resistant sealing edge. Possibly. you need a circular polarizer if the Camera beam splitters are. If the instructions are.
The Effects of Color, I would caution Polfilter dose, otherwise the fast intrusive.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
The example video is surely a joke! When the cut on "without" is a completely different light situation, it is much cloudier. You can see that s.den shadow, which are diffuse bewölkung. That looks but synonymous with a blind stick!
Antwort von domain:
When I fish in the pool or the characters in the window will show or be the reflexes just weggefiltert.
I wrote: as a rule does not require Polfilter ...
And by the way, there is absolutely no internal Graufilter without, they will either auto or manual eingeschwenkt.
Antwort von KrischanDO:
A Graufilter times will not need it anyway (which is already built into the camera) and a polarizer in the rule either. The reflections are an important image feature. Hi,
The last sentence reads a little like a Bekenntis to hard Documentarism.
;-)
Regards
Christian
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Hubomo
Cameras as the Canon have built Graufilter, not only the manual operation, but serve as a replacement aperture, because when using the aperture the diffraction would be so strong that the fuzziness in the picture clearly would see.
I do not now how this in your camera is made and whether they are synonymous, where applicable, the ND has already built.
What you, however, in areas with a lot of light is the eighth test, the IR / UV effect because, if used at high ND (no preference whether incorporated or vorgeschraubt), the non-visible light units in a lower ratio blocked. This leads to faster saturation of the image sensor in the non-visible area. Impact: Under exposure in the visible range, color in the spectrum and Bildunschärfen.
Forget the polarizer and take in such areas rather an IR / UV to do so. I have since DOMAIN right to Polfilter effect filters are pure and only for very special missions really suitable.
I'm normally not a friend of filters, but in those areas you need to react slightly differently than in Central Europe. Purchase you like a really good, because your optical beam path is very much involved s.der image. Take nothing from the corner store.
Antwort von hubomo:
S.alle thanks for the many helpful tips.
Time, look what I hole.Wäre für nen vllt. better
more to buy, so that it can even try out what suitable for the island.
lg
Antwort von WoWu:
That you can only try if you're on the island such as lighting conditions you find in Europe not before.
Antwort von hubomo:
The Polifilter on sonystyle.de in for my camera has extra UV NEN included.
When I look at the gray and there Polifilter including UV-order, do you think this will be sufficient or do I really have this IR?
What does that mean for sunsets / aufgängen from? What?
LG
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Purchase of a filter Cokin Stage / cradle.
Take with
- Filter (ND and Color)
- Full (ND)
Pol UV and unscrewing the
...................
With the course you vernuempftige filters zauberst sky plus landscape shots. (Say the brightness of the sky put down)
Take the pole into the water if you want movies, recordings speak for the sense of the boats floating in the harbor - on the main island in the harbor as you can make good recordings.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: Has there been synonymous for diving. ;-)
Worthwhile.
PS2: ND of Canon can, for example. s.der XL Series (whose lenses) ONLY manual mode.
Antwort von WoWu:
IR is heat radiation, UV light is short .... I would IR in such areas rather than UV.
Let the Polfilter away, unless you like the "dull" look.
IR heats the way, synonymous to your sensor and 7 ° per halved the signal to noise ratio ... You get so synonymous more noise .... So stop the heat off of your sensor.
(Does not everything of course under water ...:-)
Antwort von ulfilas:
... zauberst You vernuempftige heaven ... That hurts!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Yes if you ne me Ami keyboard with custom Ü zauberst ;-) I do not hurt you.
Antwort von shipoffools:
Huh?
Where did all at once because the "O" come from? o)
Antwort von B.DeKid:
;-)
Yes I know, the customary, because I just Ami and EU keyboards here have, it often happens that I am "mixed" write ;-)
I call this gross negligence, please excuse,-P
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
"reasonable", not "vernümpftig" ... Umlaut or not
Antwort von B.DeKid:
LoL - me stones But! -)
Kich * *
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von shipoffools:
LoL - me stones But! -)
Who to blame, er ... Error, the cast the first stone!
o)
Antwort von WideScreen:
Each is only a stone ...
As I said, I would endorse filters with very careful what one's own refexionen Optics is concerned. And if it already is: "s.besten take several" then you can just junk, or buy it just 5 for 160 euros?
@ B. DeKid
Purchase of a filter Cokin Stage / cradle. Is now the pocket cameras have filter stages? * lach * Oje.
Antwort von Axel:
Take with
- Filter (ND and Color)
- Full (ND)
...................
With the course you vernuempftige filters zauberst sky plus landscape shots. (Say the brightness of the sky put down) Gray filter (several strengths empfehlenswert) are with the inconspicuous, but greatest impact on the finished picture. B. How DeKid says, is their traditional use, the video is well overexposed sky (or, if the sky is properly exposed, one underexposed
lower half) in the contrast area to force the representable is. Means? Better pictures. In order for the course at the Height of the horizon in the picture can be set up (and synonymous rotated can we suppose, a house wall on the right Page reflects too much), would insert the Cokin-prefixes actually the simplest and cheapest. If they fit on your cam. But why not? Is yes several sizes. With the use of such synonymous involuntarily leaves you the shallow waters of pure snapshot filmmakers, because just as with a lens as a UV protection, keeps you do not "thing".
Antwort von B.DeKid:
? It does not "filter stage"?
And yes, there is the Cokin Geröte even for the no filter thread, and will then have, for example. below the Studio Cam s.der Tripod mounted.
Furthermore, as systems of Cokin always recommended. Why else buy a matte box? Because they are pro. looks moderately, quite rightly,-P
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Cokin A system with adapter ring fits on the A437 said Cam
see http://www.cokin.com/ico2-p1.html
On Ebay kucken Cokin because you get things cheap.
List of all Cokin
http://www.cokin.com/ico3-p0.html
List of course
http://www.cokin.com/ico3-p1-6.html
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von WideScreen:
Sure, you use the matte just because looks good, or has yet NEN other reason? The roof is very convenient as rain, right? And I have heard of it .... think so Tiffany glass shards with which you are because rumdrehen can ..... Make it a kaleidoscope.
Man here in the forum is always so großkotzert done. Analog compared to the tail: You have no idea what and I'm much better. As the cock on the dunghill ......
Antwort von B.DeKid:
... The roof is very convenient as rain, right? ...... Lol So geil ;-))
MfG
B. DeKid
