Frage von Greenboxx:
Hi,
I already have the forum durchstöbert, but unfortunately so far no suitable answer to my concerns found:
Which of the price range up to max. ¬ 1000 would be for a casual but sophisticated amateur filmmakers suitable? Sounds somewhat silly way, although I rarely camcorder recordings, video experiments, but at least I need a manual Tonaussteuerung and a good half-Picture (currently have the Panasonic NV-GS230EG, unfortunately only with automatic Tonaussteuerung). Professional although there would be at my regional channel to borrow, but will need to be admitted always sent what I (still) wants yet;). Important would be synonymous to me that the Camera on miniDV tape recording, so I have only good experiences and the durability of the tape is simply unbeatable:). The Panasonic NV-GS500EG seems to be a discontinued model, I have the internet only offers close to the MSRP seen 1-2 years ago this camera was cheaper. The Canon XM2 would unfortunately my budget of around ¬ 800 blow up: (. What would be because of the Canon HV30 to keep? Probably would be the quality is still better than my Pana NV-GS230EG, with no preference to me is whether my next in SD or HD recording ... Tonaussteuerung Manual (Mic. - In.) and a picture of the level of cheap Panasonic 3-Chipper would be for me s.wichtigsten, which is all the better for me would be the more manual settings can be .
I hope to get a speedy answer;).
MfG
Dennis
Antwort von unodostres:
If you max. ¬ 1000 available, I would have in any case to
HV30 advise. Pros wideangle converter, plus External Micro.
Antwort von Greenboxx:
Pros wideangle converter, plus External Micro. After a wide-angle converter, I would then look around times ... An external micro, I would have been, unfortunately, it roars s.meinem huge "thanks" of Tonautomatik. But surely see, because s.PC roars nix.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Antwort von kalle70:
Sure, I will now take the wrath of the forum to invite me .....
I think the HV30 for a toy.
The sub is in the hand like a plastic gun pointed in my son.
It feels the same way synonymous.
We simply have nothing in your hand ......
Even the handling seems to me to be highly gewöhnungsbedürftig.
Joystick control and includes roller s.einen Game Boy, but not s.einen.
Antwort von bgk:
Hello Dennis,
The target price range is (; from the perspective of "ambitious creative hobby filmmaker") of all producers for several years, absolutely famished. Therefore, you will then (; new) hardly synonymous find something that is your right (; and your budget) is:
With a new unit makes it hardly make sense to an SD to buy. HD-(; ready-) vision devices and 16:9 are particularly well established and arguments against the simple 4:3 - DV speak - and they were still so good.
The HD units in the targeted price of your class, however, are all "toys", ie small and often with little (; usable achievable) manual settings provide. A Focus - ring, what was that again? Lanc like?
No question, with HV30 and Co. sound like you really can get images (examples are there to Hauf) and converted to SD material can be of DVD correct synonymous crisp, but the handling and processing can be really huge room for improvement (; but apparently - although known - not implemented).
For More s.manuellen control elements in the current (; re-) HD equipment Manufacturer expect an additional monetary donation of about 1500-2000 Euros. Then, although it's been interesting (and, since then you get sometimes a focus ring available), but it gets much higher than your budget announced.
Remains - because you no compelling need for HD to see - yet the market becoming increasingly manageable s.SD devices. A significant increase s.Bildqualität referred to usability and price you will however only s.Gebrauchtmarkt find synonymous.
VX2000 /
2100, XL1, XM2, DVX100 and PD150/170 are certainly devices which could come into question. These are tried, with useful features and will probably be synonymous to some extent available to the targeted rate, but can the current term only in the last note (; and synonymous here with reservations).
The background to play in such devices, however, a not insignificant role because of your sometimes may depend on how long the (; once) expensive sweetie still want to work until they are for good money to be serviced. But what I am talking about: A brief look at ebay reveals that these devices caliber anyway just "barely used" and were "always treated with care" have been ...
The time would be overripe for HD devices from a stroke VX700/1000 (; compact but not small, with the necessary manual controls accessible s.halbwegs position, etc.). Such devices were - if the letters in technical forums and browse amounts may be believed - away like the warm rolls, but there is currently little. Panasonic, Canon and JVC are now riding times in this direction, let the whole thing but good pay.
So really only think about, inform yourself (;) oysters, and to weigh the cons and - most importantly - potential candidates at the (; realistic) achievable outcome to measure and then then select the desired presentation sNächsten coming - when synonymous certainly one or the other feature request on the wayside.
Hdh,
BGK
Antwort von Chezus:
I advise you to SonyPD 170 / 150
The part is virtually unkaputtbar. Hardly a camera which I have previously served in the price is so robust segment (and it is ultimately synonymous)
My head has been countless hours and still works flawlessly
Antwort von Shiranai:
If it is absolutely MiniDV or HDV to be, then there are only the HV30.
Otherwise I would have thee to the Panasonic HDC-SD300 advised that offers more control, but in AVCHD recording.
Antwort von kalle70:
For 1000 euros, there is no prosumer-!
Before about 10 years ago there was the (partly still popular) of TRV900E Sony. This device, I would still be the lowest level prosumer-designate. The cost was already about 2800 euros!
Today you get for that amount, present a SonyFX7.
The would-be predicate Prosumer synonymous deserves.
Antwort von Shiranai:
So ne FX7, I would now tend to categorize professional equipment. Always comes to the position.
Prosumergeräte cameras are for me, partly controls as professional devices offer, but denoch in a price segment of consumers is simple.
I do not believe that someone who is not professionally works with camcorders, look briefly Cam ne for 2-3K, respectively, of the falls, therefore, for me at Professional and no longer under prosumer.
Antwort von kalle70:
So ne FX7, I would now tend to categorize professional equipment. Always comes to the position.
Prosumergeräte cameras are for me, partly controls as professional devices offer, but denoch in a price segment of consumers is simple.
I do not believe that someone who is not professionally works with camcorders, look briefly Cam ne for 2-3K, respectively, of the falls, therefore, for me at Professional and no longer under prosumer. If the FX1 has a professional device suitable to be
I wonder who the models beyond the 6000 euros should buy.
Look the camera compared to Slashcam here.
Pay attention to the Prices and amazed how far this goes up.
There are still 2000 euros in the lower price segment.
Advertising promises and "FullHD" alone do not stop yet 'professional product
