Frage von Löwensenft:
Hello all together!
First: I find great that it is a page for all questions about the shooting there. :)
Now the real question: I want to get another camera purchase. My last one I took, Tjoa, more than 10 years old and has already scrapped synonymous Now, since after many years of non-use was broken. It was a JVC SVHS Camera, more unfortunately, I know no more.
So because: A new camera needed! What the camera filming everything should be: 0815-shooting trips, spontaneous shots, but perhaps somewhat synonymous planned small productions. Whether the whole of well-lit environment or synonymous with darker situations take place, I can not say first. But I think that I am more of a solar film bin. ;)
Oh yes: I would cut my recordings synonymous with pleasure. I have to have access to Adobe Premier CS3 if it is somehow important.
Manual settings s.der Camera synonymous erstmal are currently not 100% important. If I with the time but the times but feel like one or the other manual settings to want to be given the possibility of toll.
Oh, something else, which may restrict the thing: I have doubts s.der use of DVDs and HDDs in a camera. So I prefer SD or (mini) DV cameras. If, however, reasons for DVDs or HDDs in cameras are ever so forth. ;) If one does only s.Stück longer in question, that is no reason for me ...
I already have a few cameras here at Slashcam found, but I am anything but sure, what is actually recommended, without that next year I regret the purchase. And at today's progress is almost inevitable?
Also, cameras are following me jumped into the eye: Canon HV30, HF10/100 and SonyPendants it.
Devices such as the Canon XH are probably 1st budgetmäßig not feasible and 2 For me as a (New) Beginner überfordernd?
So, I hope I have not confused dahergebrabbelt and it can someone help me. :)
Regards
Max
Antwort von domain:
DieCanonHV30 would sometimes not a bad choice.
But look at some of our new JVC GZ-HD40 to. It may be in 3 formats to 120 GB internal hard drive disk. Simulated HDV, Full-HD AVCHD meg2 and and you need no more tapes (dropouts) and no external data synonymous tank.
The DV editing mpeg2 goes with conventional NL editors comparatively loose and then, on AVCHD you can later umsatteln still synonymous.
The picture quality is actually in all formats at the level of competition
Antwort von wolfgang:
Oh yes: I would cut my recordings synonymous with pleasure. I have to have access to Adobe Premier CS3 if it is somehow important.
Basically you need to make sure that the time s.CS3 AVCHD can not, and one for other external tools required (which it is, if one with CS3 the AVCHD editing wishes).
Basically make sure that AVCHD but quite a Power PC required!
So I prefer SD or (mini) DV cameras. If, however, reasons for DVDs or HDDs in cameras are ever so forth. ;)
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Also, cameras are following me jumped into the eye: Canon HV30, HF10/100 and SonyPendants it.
So these two points will not fit together. If you have standard definition (SD) camcorders do, then are those that are in 720x576 on mini-DV tape recording. Alternatively, what if there were synonymous, in this Resolutionals mpeg2 record, such as hard disks.
Of the Canon HV30 you mentioned, however, is an HDV camcorder, the HDV mpeg2 and Resolution1440x1080 on mini-DV tape recording.
The HF10/100 and the SonyPendants (which are probably the SR11/SR12) are characterized, however, in up to 1920x1080 on SDHC cards and hard disks to - and are AVCHD devices.
Helmut Of The HD40 is called both mpeg2 as synonymous as AVCHD in up to 1920x1080 on.
Now may be the confusion complete, but there are stop
- SD devices (720x576)
- HDV devices (mini-DV tape with 1440x1080)
- AVCHD devices (SDHC chip or plate)
- Mpeg2-HD equipment on board (only of the JVC)
What you really want, I do not know exactly. SD today speaks against the lower resolution, it is absolutely easy to work (at least in DV). For mpeg2 HDV and HD devices speaks to the high Resolutionund still good machinability (as s.einem 2-core desktop while you are). For AVCHD recording speaks on chips and boards, thus the rapid transfer to the PC, the high Resolutionvon 1920x1080 (but optical is not reached - the devices are only now slowly is better than HDV), but on the other hand, speaks the more difficult machinability.
The HD40 can be a good choice if one of the good workability of mepg2 will benefit, and that these older codec in Purchase Notes (AVC is a more modern codec). And the material is holding the camcorder to record - ensures a fast dubbing, but plates are more sensitive.
For a Canon HV30 speaks the recording on tapes, on which you can remove the material - but on the other hand, says that the tapes in real time, then it must play on (ie 1 hours lasts one hour tape dubbing). This is synonymous request from the smaller cut.
For the Canon HF10/100 and SonySR11/12 speaks of modern codec, the rapid s.PC dubbing, but the difficult machinability of AVCHD devices. For the HF10 speaks the use of SDHC cards, but their higher price (16 GB so the 40 to 45 euros, as the highest quality in fit 2 hours on it). Against the HF10/100 says that she has no more Viewfinder - LCD and the resolution is quite low. For the SR11/12 speaks to the inter-recording disk, the significantly better resolution LCD, but here are synonymous plates rather sensitive.
Choose from.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... If you have standard definition (SD) camcorders do ... Since SD here in the same breath with MiniDV, DVD and HDD is called, should the card meant, not "Standard Definition".
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von domain:
Hard, especially in tough outdoor use are not exactly the truth. But it will probably few users, for example, on a longer trip so many SD cards with you, as maybe required.
So until a 250 GB storage tank or a notebook to use for dubbing and so we have exactly the target hard disk problem.
An alternative would be the maximum saving in between on DVDs such as directly from the JVC camcorder from, but this is due to the small storage capacity is a rather pretty annoying issue.
Therefore, always with VIS MAJOR and to expect fate and incidentally busy photographing or tapes on the same record as synonymous although ...........
Antwort von Löwensenft:
Hiho!
First, Thanks for all the answers. :)
Also, cameras are following me jumped into the eye: Canon HV30, HF10/100 and SonyPendants it.
So these two points will not fit together. [...] Sorry, this was of course meant the SD Card. ;) Thought not, that is misleading, because I title in the subject so directly after HD cameras asked. :) But, well, is "difficult" with the various same abbreviations.
At the moment, called the JVC GZ-HD40 really s.interessantesten as I with her - on HDD - AVCHD and MPEG2 in HD quality can hold. In other words, the support for AVCHD in the future will be better (which probably will happen) I would have a device that also supports this format.
I have the manual synonymous read that the camera has a flash detection, which is synonymous evidence suggests that the HDD is protected. This function is synonymous my notebook ...
What would be interesting now is whether the HDD is replaceable. What do I do if the HDD x hours after recording their life goal reached? Is this the only way the thing submitted? Or it may be tilted to the technicians possible, the hard drive by hand to swap? It is in the manual of course not synonymous.
Anyway, how good is the camera of Slashcam concerning the tests carried out? If any of the Camera Slashcam be tested?
From the idea of a (mini) DV camera for HD recording, I want to once again abandoned after me s.die 1:1-transfer to the PC reminds you. Let me no longer do.
Regards
Max
Antwort von domain:
I think of Slashcam was ever mentioned on this test:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/JVC-Everio-GZ-HD40-Camcorders-Review-35331.htm#
Maybe even a hint: the camera has a remotely triggered image series photo feature on as many shots in a row (about every second) with a selectable Aulösung of eg 1920 * 1080 jpeg. It can be found in the NLE time lapse recordings make 25:1 (flying clouds, etc.)
Antwort von WoWu:
Has anyone ever tested whether the MPEG2 format of the NLEs swallowed? Because:
the first, MPEG-2 TS (transport stream), is used only by JVC in the world of consumer camcorders. ... suggests yes to something "Own" the way ... and 30 Mbit is not synonymous Standard ...
About the "1440 they say yes, that he, despite the 27 Mbit / s" komplient "HDV to be ... has anyone ever tried?
Because comments like:
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The editing software is sluggish and frustrating for new users, but sadly necessary for some. The problem is that the MPEG-2 files are not widely compatible with other editing systems, so you may need Power Producer to convert them to more commonly used file types. ... indeed more likely to indicate difficulties.
Also AVCHD to say:
Mac owners have it a little easier. works fine iMovie, Final Cut s.does. ... is now slightly exaggerated .... noisy because the material only once in the Intermediate and never come back again as AVC.
Just as a note, because the test also is not really meaningful.
He just there again, what the JVC Brochures require ..
Antwort von domain:
In all versions of Vegas, in Ulead Studio s.11.5 in PS, in Liquid and in Edius, either directly or by renaming the extension to. M2t import is possible.
But it is true, because JVC has linzenzrechtlichen reasons from its own and rather unusual variant of. M2t want or need to develop.
The Firewire port on the docking station is more likely for the cat, because it only export to HDV device can be made, not on PCs.
Synonymous But the 1440-CBR-variant it can be just as full-HD via USB to import.
Antwort von Löwensenft:
Hi!
If I understand correctly test report is the "problem" that only an HDV MPEG "standard" of Resolution1440x1080 results. Since, however, Full HD 1920x1080 pixel covers yes, it had a non-standard MPEG format, which is just now in the full HD MPEG Resolutionin record. Find me now do not interfere, but I've synonymous with the matter have no practical experience. ;) 1440er The variant is then again against HDV - Standard compliant, just because of the Resolutionher the above 1440x1080 used.
An "error" which has crept in regarding IEEE1394 seems synonymous from the manual to come: There is stated that the FireWire port to transfer to other HDV devices can be used. According to test report will be synonymous but FireWire for the PC suitable. I can imagine synonymous bad that - if FireWire is s.Bord - here is a "crippled" protocol is used to view only of the HDV devices can be used. Except here there are already clear experience reports that the whole theory wrong. :)
However, the test has me confused but again, because for example the Canon HF10/100 through better Menugestaltung something better and something in front of the Picture JVC seems to stand.
Maybe I urge synonymous but just as strong in the direction of Canon, as I have many years of enthusiastic Canon digital cameras bin? Is this caution, or because you can already draw comparisons regarding quality?
Regards
Max
Antwort von domain:
So that one of the IEEE1394 interface general data on the PC can be transferred is of course correct, but the capture in real time, as in the past of HDV cameras used to work so I can not.
So is the very uncommon mpeg2 full-HD format does not, as synonymous to SonyEX1 uses it with excellent results and 35Mbs.
The menu structure of the GZ-HD40 is not a particular problem, the paths to the desired point grind quite fast, and is approximately equal to complex or simple as it was in the HC1.
The GZ-HD40 is with the exception of the brilliant Fokussierhilfe no outstanding camcorder, but for those who afterwards, as usual, with his NLE would like to cut perhaps a workable interim solution.
Antwort von Löwensenft:
So that one of the IEEE1394 interface general data on the PC can be transferred is of course correct, but the capture in real time, as in the past of HDV cameras used to work so I can not. Oh so ... * * grübel ... It is in the camera so that it is as an external hard drive or something similar on Windows and log you directly to the files can be accessed? Had I thought now
The GZ-HD40 is with the exception of the brilliant Fokussierhilfe no outstanding camcorder, but for those who afterwards, as usual, with his NLE would like to cut perhaps a workable interim solution. "As usual with his NLE" ... what's there still opportunities? Are my old habits? ;) Or what's good, better, of which I know nothing? :) Klär me up!
I have yet to camcorderinfo.com the
test for the HF11, which is synonymous in mid-September in Germany for about 1300EUR EIA available to be read. This device sounds very interesting synonymous, synonymous if all testers Fuddelei the joystick does not seem to find so great. * g * But I think that if you as I have no personal Comparison, which Fuddeln the habit of it?
Regards
Max
Antwort von domain:
So it is on the internal hard drive can be accessed directly via USB. White synonymous not quite sure what the firewire is good, because according to specification, it is even slower than USB 2.0
"With the cut as usual" I thought that the native mpeg2 cut with the material of this camera as convenient as before expiring and not with the many constraints on the performance of AVCHD.
For me as an amateur is only temporary halt native intermediates without cutting into question. That in AVCHD now barely a trace natively runs with 25 FPS is too little. I would like with the primary color, Alphablending and / or multiple tracks in real time and without lengthy Vorschaurendern can work and is currently in AVCHD without intermediates or proxy files are not possible.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... White synonymous not quite sure what the firewire is good, because according to specification, it is even slower than USB 2.0 ... It always comes to the specifications to: Firewire and USB 2.0 are collective terms for various data rates. That is the slowest Firewire with 100 Mbps clearly faster than the slowest with USB 2.0 is just 1.5 Mbit / s. In addition, USB is due to the data itself ausbremst, so synonymous is the fastest USB 2.0 in practice, not the data rate of the comparable to Firewire 400.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von domain:
Theory of the maximum transmission rates:
IEEE1394a (called Firewire or synonymous i.LINK) max 400 Mbit / s
USB2.0 max 480 Mbit / s
1.5 MBit USB would be rather useless.
But you might be right, in practice, i.LINK been quicker, but that is for amateurs hardly a role. Here, time is not equal money
Antwort von Markus:
USB To Firewire question and possibly finish off:
Firewire-400 is faster than high-speed USB (the link there leads to a practical test)
Antwort von motiongroup:
Hello domain and all other interested parties .. relating to the JVC HDV of HD editing software to capture ..
http://www.videoaktiv.de/Hintergrundinfo/CAMCORDER_Hintergrundinfo/Signalausgabe-in- HDV -1440 - Standard-with-the-JVC GZ-HD7.html
This works well up to HD6, and the same is true for the HD3 to.
... HrDr.W the. DEATH Mpeg 2 derivative of JVC is absolutely no problem for the software, and for none at all.
Either the files are natively on the timeline processed (Edius, Vegas, VDL ..) or via the CyberLink software to its 4 bits of the pruned JVC for its definition and used in RT Smart mode. Then there are standard MPEG and should be processible ANY SOFTWARE.
There are s.dieser Cam in my opinion, only two disadvantages of single-chip CMOS and the IS .. The question is what comes back out is what counts .. The HD series is one of JVC Stativcam and Freehand is not recommended but when the HD Cams generally not recommended.
The night blindness to the predecessor models is said to take in the'40s series no longer be synonymous with the old models in this point was overstated .. How can a Cam in the darkness to see something even if I have nothing to do .. more importantly it is a noise as low as possible and fails very important! THE COLORS OF VOTES.
The best test is a LiveView via Cam and Television to make .. in the ART I seh I seh you do not see ..
My opinion ... CLEAR VOTING for JVC!
Antwort von domain:
How can a Cam in the darkness to see something even if I have nothing to do .. more importantly it is a noise as low as possible fails ..
Therefore, I basically let the automatic Gainverstärkung first off times.
And lo and behold, now show your camcorder this price class what they can synonymous, there is a real unverrauschtes black display, where one thing is really synonymous for example at night or in dark corners of rooms and so, as I see it even synonymous and that only the illuminated picture elements highlight, as in the Rembrandt painting "The Nightwatch".
Gain you can still connect or artificial lighting a little more light it. Just give it a try, the images are often so much nicer.
The color of the JVC is really strong, now synonymous times finally the green-and blue tones really being alive.
