Newsmeldung von slashCAM: REDcam and SonyEX1 keying in the test of thomas - 26 Apr 2008 21:47:00 Interesting Keyingvergleich DVXuser.com to a user of material (21 MB QuickTime clip) and the REDcam a SonyEX1. Which Picture is of the Cam?
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Antwort von PowerMac:
Damn.
Antwort von WoWu:
Why damn?
Antwort von PowerMac:
Because I can not say what Camera Picture in which the clip has generated. With "Damn" but I think mainly the consequences.
Antwort von WoWu:
Because I give you right ... But perhaps the relativised things, statements expectations and yes once again.
Antwort von 7277:
Left is right and EX1 is the Red
1. The left picture more noisy. I think a lot more. Since you have only to have some eye;)
2. The left picture is of the unsaturated colors.
Even in the picture at Compare DVXuser but you can see that the Red colors can play better. So bright colors.
Best Regards meste
Antwort von markus1701:
So bright colors. ... oddly, it seems normal on U.S. consumers to be trimmed. Have you ever watched on a ship with mostly Americans been? We had the pleasure of times, with half a dozen of them provide us with a television for a kind of movie night to be able to share. Color until it stops ... ne as Kodak promotional event ;-)
Antwort von markus1701:
Time seriously asking ... Keeps stand here and elsewhere messages like "xxx v RED ..." - 'First Test clips RED ... " - Etc. etc. etc., is there still a good MOVIE nowhere that anyone with this camera has produced? Those things are probably now long enough under the praying community has been dispersed, one can see why because of nothing?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Left is right and EX1 is Red. .. Conversely: RED left, right EX1.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von tobi1977:
That would mean the RED-Picture rauscht more. No.. Is it not. Can not happen. Can not be. Is not. Absolutely not. Not in the RED.
Antwort von Reimer Reimer:
Synonymous difference did not recognize ...
The Red demystified a bit.
The Scarlet is expected next year, then probably the better choice
for the indie filmmaker.
Even harder would be the result if you set up multiple rows
and not revealed whether because two cameras were used to shoot
or just one.
If you now have biem on a big screen working
seek, it could be perhaps to recognize the Redone
give ... perhaps but not synonymous.
All the best Axel
Antwort von Meggs:
But you should have noted:
1. The RED-recordings are made in 4K and runterkonvertiert the EX1 recordings are made in 2K.
2. The keying in its original format, separately made. By keying resolves not only the background, but colors, noise, sharpness, etc. may be synonymous change. Possibly. was when keying worked with different parameters.
Looking at the raw images of the 4K RED 2K with the raw images of the EX1 with a projector on a big screen compares, it is quite clearly in favor of the RED fail.
Antwort von Reimer Reimer:
Hello Meggen,
you're right, but the question remains whether the audiences still notice
would, if it is not pointed out?
Who would even notice if a Filmmakers claimed
that he had rotated the Redone, although it is based on the SonyPMW-EX1
has rotated?
All the best Axel
Antwort von WoWu:
Perhaps "ver. .." us synonymous someone, because it would be a great chance if the interpolation, the number of filter yes eventually s.werkeln are precisely identical to the result of the land should EX1.
Who images on such a procedure should be route has sauschwer know how it is.
And as a result ... So somehow I think not.
Antwort von Reimer Reimer:
Then we would have the Spaßbold already caught the jokes!
All the best Axel
Antwort von Meggs:
It seems to me yet what's important:
The clip is a close-up, the illumination was determined optimal. Even in normal DV are the differences between cheap and expensive camcorders with closeups much lower than when shot with many details. This is the case with optimal illumination in contrast to difficult lighting conditions.
For me, the example is not intended to RED runterzuputzen, but rather to show that what can EX1. You might get only half the resolution, but under optimum light conditions for close-ups you can see little difference to the RED.
Antwort von GENERATION4K:
I think the test is not meaningful, because I get a blue screen test is not considered appropriate feel. Everyone knows that the CMOS chip in the REDON with 50% green, 25% blue and 25% is red bedampft. The Green Picture is therefore the sharpest picture and the REDON is known that exactly the picture the blue unschärfe, especially in unfavorable lighting. While the latter can be exclusively, but I would with only one RED GREEN SCREEN turn (which I already did) and then my keying with the image information of 4K down to 2K (which is in effect the rule is) out. That brings super Ergebenisse. Goes like butter. A Comparison with the Sonyhätte me very interested. Also like the chip in the Sony is built, would provide crucial information.
Antwort von GENERATION4K:
Synonymous difference did not recognize ...
The Red demystified a bit.
The Scarlet is expected next year, then probably the better choice
for the indie filmmaker.
Even harder would be the result if you set up multiple rows
and not revealed whether because two cameras were used to shoot
or just one.
If you now have biem on a big screen working
seek, it could be perhaps to recognize the Redone
give ... perhaps but not synonymous.
All the best Axel The Verleich lagging since the SONY with the REDON s.der compares weakest point: Blue! The test would be my opinion GREEN SCREEN with a clear superiority of REDON show. The one thing is clear in the overall picture is then 4K more picture information available. One uses a technical device is always the case that the best result. Bluescreen is REDON as the worst possible starting point. Green is good. And I know nothing about the nature of the chips SONY can say.
Antwort von GENERATION4K:
Perhaps "ver. .." us synonymous someone, because it would be a great chance if the interpolation, the number of filter yes eventually s.werkeln are precisely identical to the result of the land should EX1.
Who images on such a procedure should be route has sauschwer know how it is.
And as a result ... So somehow I think not. Hello Wolfgang,
agree to you. Meanwhile, I have the SONY made smart and can now safely say that apples with pears is compared. The Sonyist a 3-chip camera (ie, for each color a separate chip) and the REDON a CMOS chip. That is why I think the same way as to be unrealistic about the same result.
The blue screen of REDON s.meisten also roars and the Gründbild is super sharp contrast, because 50% share of Green on the chip. I therefore believe that a comparison with the GREEN SCREEN Kräftverhältnisse much REDON will shift properly. As far as I know are synonymous, the new REDCAMs Einchipkameras and will therefore synonymous in the same ratio cut only that these have even higher resolutions.
Gruss
Christoph
GENERATION 4K
