Frage von Fr0stbeule:
Hello,
I want me a wide-angle converter growth for the HV20.
The 7700 covers the IR sensor AF-something, as it is in 6600 - this also covers the sensor s.and something, if so, what converter do not face the sensor?
Who can report?
Antwort von Nacho:
You probably think the Raynox HD-7000?
Both cover the sensor, the normal autofocus but it works.
Here you can make yourself a picture:
http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/video/hv20/index.htm
Not know of a converter, which is good, but the sensor does not cover.
Antwort von pointdexxi:
Moin.
My best experience I have with Raynox HD-6600. That with the AF is not struck with, but could find no restrictions.
Gruss
Pointdexxi
Antwort von malachias:
Hello,
I have the Raynox 6000 my Canon XH-A1 increased. Unfortunately, I regret the purchase:
1. Significant curvature Bildsenkrechten in the area of screen.
2. The lens is relatively far out. Since no lens hood included, I have both in daylight, so synonymous with studio lighting unfortunately fade spots to complain.
3. Dder Raynox 6000 has approximately 12cm diameter. This will s.der XH-A1 of the viewfinders for Instant Auto-Focus blocked, so that (additional) Auto Focus must be turned off.
Conclusion: never again.
Many greetings
Malachi
Antwort von Markus:
1. Significant curvature Bildsenkrechten in the area of screen. Is there really WW-converter that does not result in distortion? WW-optics (ie, self-contained optics, no additional lenses) have so quickly the value of a mid-size cars.
Antwort von Nacho:
I am quite satisfied with the HD 7000 + HV20:
- .7 Brings quite a lot
- Hardly any distortion
- Full durchzoombar
- An acceptable price
Instant AF is overcast, normal AF still works.
Antwort von herbi:
Is it logical that anyway with the big wide area of the XH-A1 a distortion can be seen. The best times of the original Canon Wide Angle comparisons, then only one remembers how well the Raynox HD-6000 is. I have the overpriced Canon again sent back and the HDP-600 0 reserve. Instant AF is then with the original Canon now unfortunately not synonymous.
But from Raynox HP-6000 was not the speech, but from the HD-6600 or HD-7000. They are for small boxes.
Cins
Antwort von Billy-Ray:
Hello, I want me a wide-angle converter synonymous growth, indoor shots are with the Canon HV20 otherwise very difficult ...
The Raynox HD-7000 has probably a 53 mm thread, then what's not on the 43 mm will fit the Canon ... I understand not.
The Canon WD43 to get so synonymous already for 180 ¬ ...
Has anyone similar problems / solutions?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Raynox HD-7000 has probably a 53 mm thread, then what's not on the 43 mm will fit the Canon ... I understand not. Quite simply: For the connection, an adapter ring of 58mm to 43mm, as for example of him Raynox there.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Billy-Ray:
And can you recommend the Raynox Lenses? Did not so heady comparison images found on the Internet.
Antwort von Nacho:
http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/video/hv20/index.htm
The best watch yourself!
Antwort von Nacho:
And:
http://www.imagometrics.com/FLReviews/HV20_Wide.htm
Antwort von Heinz Wilken:
After seeing the forum posts and other information was evaluated, when I'm Raynox HD-6600 for my HV20 remains. This provides a very clean reproduction and especially the distortion is very low. My old Hama 0.7 x Converter was really opposed to the tonne.
I would give the HD-6600 fully recommend.
Heinz
Antwort von el saso:
I've century fisheye with the good experiences made.
it was then on a canon MV20, and it had anähernd 0 distortion.
as is unfortunately the less expensive the more distortion linse
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... ... century fisheye distortion had anähernd 0 ... A fisheye distortion? That would be something new, because fish-eye characterized as an extremely strong Straight Wide Angle wanted a high level of barrel distortion.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von el saso:
I refer here of course, the distortion s.Rand.
Through the Century, I've about 180 degrees, absolutely no distortion s.Rand, and otherwise is synonymous rather wide character. Of course, this front-Wow effect being quite large, but as synonymous with film s.ca 12mm lenses, so you have almost a normal picture, just stop NEN angle of 180 degrees.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
... ... century fisheye distortion had anähernd 0 ...
A fisheye distortion? That would be something new, because fish-eye characterized as an extremely strong Straight Wide Angle wanted a high level of barrel distortion. A Fisheye without distortion just s.den edges (especially at 180 ° angle) is about as good as possible as a PAL SD picture with more than 720x576 resolution ... or?
Antwort von el saso:
Of course, it still slightly crooked margins, but we are talking here of the tubular through the fisheye image is made (spherical aberration), s.dem are around the edges and a black edge is visible. then there are still weitwinkel approximately the same angle as fisheye have, and the image is not distorted aussieht.durch production and combination of special lenses, it is possible that aberration to eliminate almost perfect. but that is very complicated and thus expensive.
I'm sorry, but this is fakt, you can be happy anywhere to read. I work in his camera rental and believe me to know ...
sorry for the bad quali photos of when exactly hinguckt is a TV set, right ne couch and left cabinet to recognize, but obtained the right screenshot, I could not do because no pc cam and harmony.
zum Bild moreover, the camera in a hd sd projekt recorded, thus the multi-pixel founded, unfortunately the nunmal 100 percent before my eyes flicker.
greetings and nice evening
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
But we are talking here of the tubular through the fisheye image is made (spherical aberration), s.dem are around the edges and a black edge is visible.
Geht das schon wieder los? Spherical aberration is something completely different:
Wikipedia [/ url] "] The spherical aberration, synonymous opening errors or failures in ball shape, causes axially incident or object from the same point on the optical axis of outgoing light rays after passing through the system is not the same cutting width. You can not run in a point. ... and this does not put the barrel distortion, but only the edge blur.
On the other hand, knows distortion Wikipedia:
So-called fish-eye Lenses have a strong barrel distortion at. This is intended to develop a bigger picture to achieve angle (180 degrees and more are possible only by distortion) (...) (in the same article)
180 ° angle of view without distortion does not work!
I'm sorry, but this is fakt, you can be happy anywhere to read.
Have I made, here is the result.
I work in his camera rental and believe me to know ...
That may think you like, is finally a free country. Why post here but you'll constantly evidence to the contrary?
(Did you incidentally the job at ZDF abandoned?)
moreover, the camera in a hd sd projekt recorded, thus the multi-pixel founded, unfortunately the nunmal 100 percent before my eyes flicker.
Then again read your comments in the appropriate thread. You have here every angegiftet the outset of you said, that can not be SD. Your alleged ZDF colleagues were sooo so trustworthy, so where would you rather believe.
Antwort von el saso:
So you've read in wikipedia ... which probably says a lot.
and the picture I've synonymous gefaked? good, that probably says a lot.
and I worked with optics to an extreme angle of view and have no distortion says much synonymous ...
Incidentally, I said that I have more programs in video pixel in nem sd project and had asked what that liegt.insofern None has any untruths said pixel which is more than sd in sd projekt nem concerns.
Antwort von sas_hh:
Moin.
So you have both somehow right times and wrong times.
A Fisheye will always distort the picture somewhat, but is in good if not so extreme the case.
Antwort von r.p.television:
Gruselig what is required of people who should know better (or pretend to know better).
So if the Century Fisheye Converter (no preference whatever) has no distortion, then I am the Pope!
The thing tumbling produces lines such as with the circle drawn. If yes synonymous wanted and physically not otherwise possible, or adjust But now new 747 into a double garage?
If mistakenly Randunschärfen with distortion, CA or vignetting Nußecken meant to be, then it is even wrong, because all the Century Fisheye worse than their reputation and are quite violent Randunschärfen produce (except perhaps the brand new Super Fisheye for something at the 3000 Euros) .
Since the FE-180 Raynox HD for less than half and even better charcoal vignettiert much less synonymous.
Antwort von sas_hh:
wow that is because I must now raise.
I had previously cheap fisheye, which is completely around the building did. through the century, the building nearly straight, of course, there are curved lines s.rand completely clear. but it is not "looking into the tube" so to speak, has mehr.s ww character with an extremely large visual angle.
and that with the randunschärfen then it depends of the used adapters and possibly reinzoomen together.
I have many years with the century and was filmed almost hardly randunschärfen etc.
elsaso says what it can of course do not agree, but the century with a "normal" fisheye to compare which makes a round building and extremely rounded lines s.rand has unfortunately synonymous is incorrect.
more expensive lens systems nunmal distort the picture is not as cheap.
in the film area used ww `s the picture may not be so synonymous forgiven as zb cheap lens to do it as much as possible should be captured image with rounded edges to minimize.
everywhere and to my mustard-dazuzugeben wikipedia is really the wrong source to prove facts to try to synonymous when it comes true in this instance;)
Antwort von r.p.television:
wow that is because I must now raise.
I had previously cheap fisheye, which is completely around the building did. through the century, the building nearly straight, of course, there are curved lines s.rand completely clear. but it is not "looking into the tube" so to speak, has mehr.s ww character with an extremely large visual angle.
and that with the randunschärfen then it depends of the used adapters and possibly reinzoomen together.
I have many years with the century and was filmed almost hardly randunschärfen etc.
elsaso says what it can of course do not agree, but the century with a "normal" fisheye to compare which makes a round building and extremely rounded lines s.rand has unfortunately synonymous is incorrect.
more expensive lens systems nunmal distort the picture is not as cheap.
in the film area used ww `s the picture may not be so synonymous forgiven as zb cheap lens to do it as much as possible should be captured image with rounded edges to minimize.
everywhere and to my mustard-dazuzugeben wikipedia is really the wrong source to prove facts to try to synonymous when it comes true in this instance;) If you advance to an obviously cheap Fisheye had, I am not surprised that you of the Century Fisheye're convinced.
I have only synonymous Euros for 1200, the Ultra Fish Eye of Century bought, then noted that, firstly big Randunschärfen has vorallem and secondly to half zoom erhelbliche vignetting or Nußecken, ie one has reingezoomt extent that it is not the interior of the converter in the Picture was devoid of any purpose related to the focal point of the converter.
Possessions in the CV 04/2006 read a review of my experience has been confirmed and have pointed empfohlenerweise me 400 Euros for the FE-180 Raynox HD PRO Internet fetched.
And actually this is better in ALL respects.
And Century has the Picture of the round all done, simply because it is inside of themselves selbstverliebterweise has filmed. Looks like this as if you from the bottom of a dustbin the world.
And yes, the fisheye was used precisely for the camcorder designed, namely the FX1.
Century here I will not bad talk. Most are normal WW-converter with the fact the best image quality. But not by the bank. There are even significant outlier here.
Unfortunately, many professionals of unseen bought and the quality is not questioned. Century is in the truest sense to leave his good reputation ....
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
and the picture I've synonymous gefaked? good, that probably says a lot.
So you can read not synonymous. From Fake was never mentioned. Even in this bad Still Image distortion can be seen that according to your statement does not exist.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
no "looking into the tube" anymore. The picture angle of a Fisheye-hang of the intent of the focal lens, s.das the intent is screwed. Only at a certain focal reached the Fisheye s.die 180 ° image angle (with distortion of course).
At 180 ° this means: left, right, top, bottom each 90 °, ie the "film" is a hemisphere displayed.
What happens when you zoom the focal verringerst next? Around the corner look, the lens is not: it starts abzuschatten = black corners to tunnel vision. The Picture will be a "small" and more curved.
One can therefore its Fisheye 180 ° only for
a defined focal length lens deliver. Focal larger = Picture
angle small, focal low = vignetting to tunnel vision. Extends the focal more and more, you can seriously not be synonymous of a Fisheye Effect speak. In extreme cases, as long as I can zoom in until the Fisheye as a normal Wide Angleabbildet (but probably with heavy swabs in quality).
wikipedia is really the wrong source in order to try to prove facts I have
nothing to prove here. I only contradict the appalling nonsense that is posted here tlw. ( "there is no fisheye distortion").
BG, Andreas
Antwort von sas_hh:
thanks for the explanation of the bodywork fishauges.
if for nem fisheye reinzoomt you blame yourself, because that is only very little else can you picture is equal to the tonne occur.
any layman should know that you're not in a fisheye zoom, there is weitwinkel.
fisheye at the focal length is actually relatively no preference, since most have something around the 183 degrees, and there is no consumer camera in its lowest focal length differs so greatly that the ultimate bildausschnitt not somewhere in the region of 180 - 165 degrees is.
however, have fisheye camera and often different filter thread, and the more adapters you take the lower course of the picture.
schonmal film with real objective rotated? if so then would you agree with me that there's hardly so extreme bends in the area weitwinkel because the objective is more easily compensated, For this cost with the smaller focal length so synonymous as much as a house.
rp and television, this is so synonymous in most cases the artistic effect of a fisheye to this earth from a dustbin watch.
anyway, I can tell from the practice this century that the effect is not as good as is. the difference here is that maybe I had the small for 32mm. However, I have been synonymous with the Z1E and the big fisheye rotated, as were the effects synonymous not so strong, on the contrary, it saw the curvature of more like a light weitwinkel. Of course, this is camera to camera differently.
and let elsaso in these times of silence, I think of myself do not know what he is talking about;)
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
schonmal film with real objective rotated? if so then would you agree with me that there's hardly so extreme bends in the area weitwinkel because the objective is more easily compensated, For this cost with the smaller focal length so synonymous as much as a house. True ... with his intent would be synonymous previously reported, so we went so synonymous in the receipt of posting. (Set in the price category überhaupt jemand Prefixes a comodity)
Sure - who is attached with Fisheye
unnecessary zooms, which gives away, but I can imagine that in certain dimensions may be necessary. Suppose that someone here has 45 mm Wide Angleund achieved with the full intent x 180 ° angle of view, it would have with the 38 mm wide zoom Angleein little, not> 180 ° to comment, but to stay there and thus the optimum out of the intent .
BG, Andreas
Antwort von sas_hh:
this is true andreas. The question is only whether to halt the wants, if you get a fisheye kauft.die most want to be so much angle as possible, otherwise one could indeed synonymous a wide nehmen.and as I said, someday it makes when you zoom in and peng serkennt do nothing more.
hehe, can indeed times nem kameraassi the proposal make a lens to take, but then quickly cut off and red;)
well so as I said, the art of distortion depends on many factors, I can then you just give the tip either the combination or Z1E canon MV20 with the fisheye century to take the fall because the distortion is so small that it made for a normal weitwinkel holds. fakt that is, the experiences I have gemacht.wie with the other combinations could be behaving itself so then calculate
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
The Fisheye is nothing next as a wide ... just extreme. I once read somewhere years ago (when Feininger, I believe), the distinction would s.etwa 140 ° angle of view has been taken. The book, unfortunately, I no longer, otherwise I would look again.
:-)
Andreas
Antwort von sas_hh:
yes, somewhere must be so distinctive.
But there are some defaults in weitwinkelvorsätzen, SIW 0.5, 0.3, etc., a fisheye always has the greatest possible angle to make it as synonymous with fisheye classify. so often it is not used except for sport and for effects
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
so often it is not used except for sport and for effects Yep ... I had times of Interior made a yacht, but I had lent me a fisheye. The pictures were absolutely not good ... We then built a side window to the outside to the inside of turn and to swing ...
BG, Andreas
Antwort von sas_hh:
times it was really in order to rotate.
I'm doing for years Funsport videos, udn then it was a must. bethinks today is based on theatrical film, fortunately ...
