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Frage von klinsman:


Hello,

I'm looking for a mini camcorder with good low light qualities.
Maximum of 500 euros expensive.

Can anyone recommend me one?

Greeting
Jurgen

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

As long as you love your personal low-light profile is not accurate (synonymous spezifizierst in other forums!), You will be able to help anyone synonymous.

Would you videofilmen in the beer tent?

Studying the details of the Manufacturer itself, which minimum illumination in lux will be provided. But you can consult a salesperson synonymous ...

Only once as an example of what state-camcorder as Manufacturer Minimum Illumination:

1. Canon XM2: 0.37 Lux
2. Panasonic NV-GS400: 2 lux

that is certainly a price class above your budget!

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Antwort von AMH:

Purchase your video assets, digital video, video media or the like. There has always, extensive testing on all camcorders. ;-) Even those in your price range

Gruss
Alex

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Antwort von Markus:

"Bruno Peter" wrote: Studying the details of the Manufacturer itself, which minimum illumination in lux will be provided. But you can consult a salesperson synonymous ...

At the manufacturer's specification, I would not leave me. Even Video8 camcorder were declared ten years ago with 1 lux minimum illumination. The reality, however, quickly showed that the device at 1 lux was nearly blind and the noise reached phenomenal proportions.

Here are just really helps to read various journals and the comparative study (with images of still images such as at 100 lux) to. The consultant I would give only selected stores Verstrauen. This of course excludes markets, greed geil find (Beratungsgeiz?) Or in their advertising, anything "stupid" is. ;-)

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

In magazines I would not always synonymous to leave, is often synonymous opinion of an individual. How often are synonymous even total / data have been confused, as it happens, when evaluating the c't of camcorders ...

The first stop is in any case the technical specifications of the manufacturer plus tests from magazines and user experience if they are even capable of the low-light capability to understand and Perfect describe or demonstrate too.

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Antwort von Markus:

If I want to buy a new car, I do not go get the beautiful living. Thus, the c't is certainly not synonymous, the right magazines, if it is to be a new camcorder. Specialist magazines I'd buy that have the video tapes as a priority. Not the home theater, not the computer, not beautiful living. ;-)

Like I said: This really helps just to read different journals and to study the comparative tests. By this I mean that one should certainly result in multiple journals with the same camcorder test classes to the mind to filter out the trends and preferences of testers to find as a result, finally, to the personal request model. :-)

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Hehe, good:

c't = Beautiful Homes,
at least as camcorder testing is concerned ...

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Antwort von The Langolier:

Hello,
my 1st CCD-TR350E camcorder (1 / 3''CCD with 320,000 pixels), showed good low-light color and little noise, which Resolutionwar for video8 relationships barely satisfactory. Later, I swapped it for a CCD-TR550E (1 / 3''CCD and 570,000 pixels). She had better colors and an electronic image stabilization, but more noise in low light, the colors faded in the past. After about 4 months I exchanged the camera (because Pixeldeffekt) against a Hi8 CCD-TR680E (1 / 3''CCD and 470.000 pixels) -> the pictures were (as in analog Bandabhängig Cams usual) but significantly sharper synonymous somewhat paler , the noise in low light, a little stronger. Despite the lack of stability, the sensitivity was even worse. So with a system change to D8 DCR-TR7000E (1 / 4''CCD and 800,000 pixels). The advantages: no visible dropouts, saturated colors, better color separation + Differentiation great contrast, stable and effective screen layout stability were some disadvantages such as lower color resolution of complex image content, such as trees, considerably more noise in low light (at the same conditions) and no manual features. So switch on MiniDV with a Canon MVX200i (1 / 4, 5''CCD with 1.33 mega pixels) and lo and behold, despite the smaller CCD succeed in shooting in low light and sharper with less noise. Under good lighting conditions affect the images more realistic (and not unnaturally colorful as with some 3 CCD device), the focus is fully convinced, despite absence of edge-sharing, some of the colors to be less well differentiated, go for a 1 CCD Cam Verstaendnis Fast drive, Stills, particularly useful in daylight and what for me was very important: exposure, white balance and shutter speeds can be adjusted of hand. Surely there are better devices, but access for less than 600 euros including DV-in, I just had to be.
Harry

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Antwort von Markus:

"Harry" The Langoliers, "" wrote: Under good lighting conditions affect the images more realistic (and not unnaturally colorful as with some 3 CCD device)

To which devices you are referring to you? The new "on the prize" of Panasonic?

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Interesting, but what low-light camcorder under 500 ¬ uro Now you can really recommend and what do you think this low-light lux (eg number)?

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Antwort von The Langolier:

Hello,
I refer to the interior with a 60 W lamp at 30 m and not on lux values for most of the course here in the forum more statements, but for my purchase were not relevant. As for the 3 CCD cams concerns to supply these devices (at least in daylight) is very beautiful shots in low light (eg, twilight), I had occasion to test copy to a Panasonic NV-GS75EG-S () are comparable in price, my results : the very small CCDs roared in low light much stronger, and the images were dark and blurred. To explain this for me was as follows: 3 (small) CCDs in principle generate more noise than one. Panasonic has implemented a (non-interruptible) noise reduction, which engages all the more so in the Picture ever the lighting conditions are unfavorable. But even in daylight the images seemed less rich in detail and in Comparison to Reality unnatrürlich Bunt which is of course a matter of taste. Incidentally, with black print on white background, one can trace the edges of sharing very good (white borders around the text is visible). Nevertheless, the picture looked sharper than in the ninth position of the MVX600i.
Harry

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Antwort von The Langolier:

One recommendation is for one of them s.was expectations s.einer Cam has, however, synonymous the price should play a role. I would have more money to spend, I would have chosen me for the Canon MVX25i. Also, the Panasonic NV-GS250EG-S delivers good pictures, but handling (with mini-joystick) and Kantenaufsteilung are the price (currently) is not appropriate. Maybe they will in 1 year as a discontinued model significantly cheaper and you can enjoy at least the 3 CCD color in daylight. DVD and analog-Cams I got advise.

Gruss
Hary

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Antwort von Markus:

Hello Harry,

since you have already personally met some of your camcorder. That moderate the results of the 3CCD equipment, come from the struggle Value Panasonic, I had thought already. Good quality has just synonymous in the 3-chip its price class.

When reference is a Interior attract with 60W bulb, I think a good idea. Many (prospective) including videographers will be able to imagine as having a fasting numerical value of the illumination. Even magazines are steered away from pure test cheap to publish and print off instead prefer still images of the camcorder. So one can do a much better reader than Picture it, come what weaknesses in moderate lighting to light. :-)

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Antwort von klinsman:

Ultimately, I want a small, unobtrusive camera to film at night in bars and on the road. My XM1 is too great to me since.

Since I live in Andalusia, I'm not so good ran s.entsprechende magazines. But the JVC GR-D230 seems to have good value for money too loud TESTBERICHTE.DE (430EUR).
Unfortunately I can not find anywhere else, it means exactly what JVC's Color Night Scope. Whether the 0 lux, or simply an infrared lamp?

Greeting
Jurgen

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Just come back of my dealer and he said that if there is something under 500 ¬ uro to be, then it should be a model of Sony taking, it should then give models with good reception properties at 0 lux, and almost no noise.

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Antwort von jens:

"Bruno Peter" wrote: Just come back of my dealer and he said that if there is something under 500 ¬ uro to be, then it should be a model of Sony taking, it should then give models with good reception properties at 0 lux, and almost no noise.

But that probably means the infrared mode. So green and black and white images.
BTW to the manufacturer's instructions:
You write that your Pana NV-GS400 still at 2 lux operation would make.
In the same statement writes Sonyzur VX2100.
So much for that ...

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Antwort von The Langolier:

Hello,
JVC camcorder in low light show bright, low-noise images. The color saturation is synonymous Verstaendnis practiced eye can see, however, synonymous like digital noise reduction for ghosting and other artifacts provide (), especially in motion and panning. But what I did especially with the JVC cams. inconvenience is the autofocus. If one is manual and each scene focuses certainly not an issue, but those who mainly rely on the automatic and get out again for a few seconds blurry pictures. My TR7000E of SONY DCR-also has a 0 Lux Recording feature (Nightshot), so I can record a short distance monochrome thermal images. The principle is simple: First, the internal infrared filter from the lens plane is folded away, if that's not enough, an infrared LED can also be added. In addition, the shutter speed can be extended in two stages. One should Focusing manual, for the open aperture combined with the extended shutter überfördern the autofocus.

Gruss
Harry

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Antwort von klinsman:

Thanks for all the tips.
Unfortunately, now I find the decision even harder.
The following reports have convinced me, but get a JVC to:

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/JVC-GR-DF550-Camcorders-Review.htm
http://www.dvspot.com/reviews/jvc/gr_df550-review/

Tend now to JVC GR-DF540, due Lens F1, 2 ... Wermuth drop: no DV-IN

Greeting
Jurgen

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