Newsmeldung von slashCAM: Redrock brings support for DSLR rig of rob - 24 oct 2008 08:57:00
Redrock, known for its M2 35mm converter boxes and Matt, now has a support rig for DSLR with HD video function presented. The already hot debate Nikon D90 and Canon 5D Mark II with the expected s.RED similar rig much easier than video cameras to use. The rig consists of a 15mm support system, including follow focus, matte box, and shoulder condition - a price is not fixed yet - but should be p.28. October to me the availability of rigs will be announced.
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Antwort von Axel:
That went so fast:
Apparently starting the period of the DSLR in the video sector. A handle on the camera or a handle that will be developed, so that synonymous times from the hands of film and spicy at the same time can provide. Disadvantage: With such a rig or you can just re-issues of the rotary approval. Just show up somewhere and then a shot "steal" (expression of Stu Masch joke ' "DV Rebel", refers to a wild filming
on location without a permit), with the fabulous Cams Lowlight this is difficult because ...
Antwort von roweproductions:
One should prefer to again mention that at least the Nikon which affects the image quality (film mode) is a disaster. We had the camera for a short time and were totally disappointed. By the Rolling Shutter must be no objects perpendicular to the camera axis, because the total will be distorted, and the same is true for pans. Also, the picture we could not convince. For small movies on the Internet, it is, but woe betide you, the material on a larger display or projection in again. There must still be improved quite a lot - as synonymous to help rig the best of redrock nothing.
Antwort von Spaceman:
Yeah, with this announcement of Red we are probably synonymous with the last doubters realize that the hour of the SLR and has beaten the typical camcorder with Popelminichip is a discontinued model (SonyEX1 etc. ..).
There was distress in the Red quickly responded yes. I'm curious whether the times are still the Epic and Scarlet out a. Looks rather not look like it.
Canon seems to be in semi-pro camcorder area so no more big synonymous further. (see H1s XL)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
So ... in the Red Not so fast. I'm curious whether the times are still the Epic and Scarlet out a. Does not look like it more ... Maybe, but there are two separate firms, one has the other with nothing to do: The DSLR bundle is of Redrock Microsystems, the Camera of the RED Digital Cinema Camera Company.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Yeah, with this announcement of Red we are probably synonymous with the last doubters realize that the hour of the SLR has beaten ...... Nene Ne what to think at such depth of knowledge to say.
I see it already "professional wedding film wins Oscar for wedding epic rotated on D90 / 5D"
.........................
I maintain
One is photography
The other is moving pictures aka Film
These are in my eyes, hopefully still VERY LONG 2 different shoes.
Would be bad but if you EX3 plus 35mm adapter to buy and for only 1 / 3 the same product bekämme.
Think this is probably not the intentions, of whom no preference, from the manufacturer are quite niche.
MfG
B. DeKid
All too many Ps GoGo Gadget (Inspector Gadget) gekuckt then, I say because times ;-)
Antwort von the_flasher:
So I can only hope that the video feature or the other way through the cameras finally get larger sensors.
Why two different devices rumschleppen if thing can give what Still Image and video in very good quality.
Antwort von Spaceman:
Bernd E. @ -> true in fact. If two different providers.
@ BdeKid -> yes that is a rosy outlook. The future lies in his camcorder with mini-Chip and upstream 35mm adapter? Na as a professional seems to be ;-)
Antwort von WoWu:
@ The_flasher
the cameras finally get larger sensors. Larger chips are not enough ... Although they must be larger, but not to be incorporated more pixels, but for larger pixels and additional transistors for GS.
Unfortunately include all Photo Ships always huge amounts of pixels, so the video is not served because the laboriously Picture subsequently dissolved by an interpolation to 1 / 10 together is ...
But in principle agrees with the size of course ...
Antwort von raymaker:
A DSLR on the shoulder grab.
We live in interesting times.
Antwort von raymaker:
@ BdeKid -> yes that is a rosy outlook. The future lies in his camcorder with mini-Chip and upstream 35mm adapter? Na as a professional seems to be ;-) It works, and brings excellent results.
Until now I have wavy except a glossy film honestly just garbage of the DSLR seen. The generation is not yet ripe. Perhaps it is the next-generation DSLR. (18 months is again: ()
Antwort von B.DeKid:
@ BdeKid -> yes that is a rosy outlook. The future lies in his camcorder with mini-Chip and upstream 35mm adapter? Na as a professional seems to be ;-) Have I claimed that?
Who wll here what the results of comparable tell?
Du?
Nee probably little or synonymous?
Still image cameras are not to me but now of today on tomorrow NEN 35 mm adapter or conjure look?
So your expert can save you So, I was hardly the views of the future but a direct comparison of the current situation.
but still holding toy toys (so I my cameras with film role)
.... and if I would like to FUTURE 3 Full CMOS chips in the new camcorders s.die ..... see you then still 35 mm adapter or else one of the next miracle can tinker.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS. I'd like to say that no preference whether the Nikon or the Canon both top PHOTO cameras are. That is beyond question.
Just as a note above when I with my "toys" was a little too hard ;-)
PS2: I would rather go as far as the Nikon and Canon are dismal response to Sony's campaign to the Still Image sector should, and then I laugh, what does Canon and Nikon because that show is?
The aim behind your squat and Blueprints SonyParolle Still Image on the sector, not a trend here of any attempt case.
Antwort von Spaceman:
@ BdeKid: Not personally, but what should take you to your contributions to say? Who in the future Full CMOS chips with additional 35mm adapter provides the only meaning and function of a 35mm adapter entirely unknown ......
Just this: Of course, the film quality of a Full 35mm SLR each adapter in the shadows are. An adapter is always only been a stopgap measure, the problems of the things are so well known.
Since 35mm adapter now superfluous, as the Manufacturer Redrock, Letus etc. existence problem. Redrock has at least the signs of the time clearly recognized and attempted with the support rig and accessories for film SLR's to survive ....
Antwort von the_flasher:
The 35mm adapter, the superfluous is synonymous entirely justified.
A camera rig with 35mm adapter, although there may be something a professional look, but the handling of this is not practical with a DSLR zuvergleichen, at half the size exactly the same effect offers.
On the one I can find the video function of the Canon 5D MARK2 is still not judge, let the Nikon D90. There is my opinion only a "manufacturer independent film" and, although of Vincent Laforet, here the link for those who have not seen this movie http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/. you can at least in full resolution viewing. The video clips of the manufacturer's site, I generally do not trust.
Antwort von raymaker:
Just this: Of course, the film quality of a Full 35mm SLR each adapter in the shadows are. An adapter is always only been a stopgap measure, the problems of the things are so well known.
Since 35mm adapter now superfluous, as the Manufacturer Redrock, Letus etc. existence problem. Redrock has at least the signs of the time clearly recognized and attempted with the support rig and accessories for film SLR's to survive .... Complete nonsense coming to you just because of the Full zusammenreimst releases. Neither do you have background knowledge, nor do you know about the company or its principal amounts decision.
"The sale 35mm adapter, there are cripples Full-DSLR, so the company broke" - I may be your thoughts together?
Antwort von Spaceman:
@ Raymaker: Yes, the summary makes the point. Sounds hard but it is ... yammer helps because not next ....
And if a farmer like Redrock adapter suddenly begins Riggs professional SLR's building may not even be "crippled", or?
Antwort von Christian Schmitt:
@ The_flasher
the cameras finally get larger sensors.
Larger chips are not enough ... Although they must be larger, but not to be incorporated more pixels, but for larger pixels and additional transistors for GS.
Unfortunately include all Photo Ships always huge amounts of pixels, so the video is not served because the laboriously Picture subsequently dissolved by an interpolation to 1 / 10 together is ...
But in principle agrees with the size of course ... The hardware / Softwreaspekte left aside:
Larger chips and Nikon / Canon lens line, would eventually power the entire stuff obsolete.
Indyfilmer want to determine all the Axis only ne handy Video Camera (VJs) need, I'm not so sure whether the reduced depth of field will be as convenient ...
At the end, it will be tantamount to what the market expects higher sales.
And the D90 or 5D MkII are definitely interesting tools:
http://www.vimeo.com/2046883
Password is "andy"
EDIT: The video is not of me ...
Antwort von Spaceman:
Hammer, very well-made video. Respekt!
What you suggest I suspect synonymous: many video disciples will probably be with the big chip and the low depth of field and the manual controls of an SLR be overwhelmed. The possibilities were previously not on video. As those who have it from the (analog) photography come and is long with company image design course, easier ....
Anders, I can be some negative reaction on film innovations such as the D5 / D90 does not otherwise explain ....
Antwort von Christian Schmitt:
Anders, I can be some negative reaction on film innovations such as the D5 / D90 does not otherwise explain .... There is always "yes, but ..." People.
And then there are those who simply make the best of it (cf. Vimeo link).
Antwort von Christian Schmitt:
Anders, I can be some negative reaction on film innovations such as the D5 / D90 does not otherwise explain ....
There is always "yes, but ..." People.
And then there are those who simply make the best of it (cf. Vimeo link).
Antwort von WoWu:
..... And exactly what the video can be seen, was meant.
the most part is so blurred that it would have been synonymous with the mobile phone can turn.
The sharpness of static on the mic basket provides exactly just that the singer is already behind it is no longer sharp.
Once s.Gitarrensteg umgreifen ... and have to get with the Focus is no longer behind. Only the fast cutting laminated pictures behind the weak.
Besides annoying the hell of motion blur.
Distance is the lens limit (or hood) in the Picture ...
In black is mainly about drawing any more.
That part would have been with an EX3 not so bad .... hingekriegt
If that is a demo for (yes, what, D5 / D90) should be .... and if the best should be that you can make of it ... ? I do not know ...
Antwort von Axel:
What is clear is that once again the best of one hour footage zusammengekratzt and with Postpro-Chic zusammengekleistert. That's why we know not sure how good or bad the recordings really are. Certainly applies to the work with a DSLR as the same as for a 35mm adapter, and that is that much more care in the use of lighting needs. It is often said that you must like working with film. But who has worked with film, knows how much leeway there is in fact when the exposure is.
For carefree Top Hold * is really the wrong equipment, they can practically only for planned carefully asked take pictures, not for a reportage. Can the sharpness at all happy? Well, this
topic is to blur images, but it can be synonymous to exaggerate, especially when the focus field is smaller than the subject itself There is bragging synonymous in the game. If you want to show that you absolutely arbitrary control over the sharpness, you must
have the synonymous. In the extreme case, one would probably focus on the radio with a joystick and pull on a HD monitor live control. And yet each setting rehearse until it sits. The next question then is whether the scene requires it's not all aesthetic or an end in itself.
(* should not mean that you are with an EX-1 will give
no trouble)
Antwort von PowerMac:
(... ).... And if I would like to FUTURE 3 Full CMOS chips in the new camcorders s.die ..... see you then still 35 mm adapter or else one of the next miracle can tinker. (...) I would like to drive a car with see. And finally with the engine!
Antwort von Spaceman:
To look at the fear of a lack of depth to an SLR:
the depth of the aperture is fully adjustable. To set the depth to simply enlarge the Aperture shut. Indoor rotation must then of course the high sensitivity of iso-spin. High iso-values are in SLR's in the current generation absolutely no problem!
In contrast, one can Camcoder with the term "gain" synonymous with Noise translated ...
Antwort von Axel:
In contrast, one can Camcoder with the term "gain" synonymous with Noise translated ... Indeed! Therefore, and despite everything Gequengel, the DSLR with - perhaps in the near future even better - video function a success.
Antwort von Christian Schmitt:
..... And exactly what the video can be seen, was meant.
the most part is so blurred that it would have been synonymous with the mobile phone can turn.
The sharpness of static on the mic basket provides exactly just that the singer is already behind it is no longer sharp.
Once s.Gitarrensteg umgreifen ... and have to get with the Focus is no longer behind. Only the fast cutting laminated pictures behind the weak.
Besides annoying the hell of motion blur.
Distance is the lens limit (or hood) in the Picture ...
In black is mainly about drawing any more.
That part would have been with an EX3 not so bad .... hingekriegt
If that is a demo for (yes, what, D5 / D90) should be .... and if the best should be that you can make of it ... ? I do not know ... With all due respect: where are your videos EX3 the "better manage "...?
Always this typical German theorist discussions!
The whole day on the net and rumhängen s.Schreibtisch back on the set, just what others have done.
Must be exhausting its vermeindlichen theorems constantly argue against the reality of it.
A Dipl.Ing. nunmal still makes no cameraman.
Antwort von Christian Schmitt:
What is clear is that once again the best of one hour footage zusammengekratzt and with Postpro-Chic zusammengekleistert. That's why we know not sure how good or bad the recordings really are. Certainly applies to the work with a DSLR as the same as for a 35mm adapter, and that is that much more care in the use of lighting needs. It is often said that you must like working with film. But who has worked with film, knows how much leeway there is in fact when the exposure is.
For carefree Top Hold * is really the wrong equipment, they can practically only for planned carefully asked take pictures, not for a reportage. Can the sharpness at all happy? Well, this topic is to blur images, but it can be synonymous to exaggerate, especially when the focus field is smaller than the subject itself There is bragging synonymous in the game. If you want to show that you absolutely arbitrary control over the sharpness, you must have the synonymous. In the extreme case, one would probably focus on the radio with a joystick and pull on a HD monitor live control. And yet each setting rehearse until it sits. The next question then is whether the scene requires it's not all aesthetic or an end in itself.
(* should not mean that you are with an EX-1 will give no trouble) Must, must, must ... Man must be "nothing.
Aesthetics is an end in itself.
The video does not match your taste. And?
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Christian Schmidt
A Dipl.Ing. nunmal still makes no cameraman True, except that your conception of what a Dip-Ing. it does urge reform appears.
May well be that you like the video ... this is really Geschmachssache, but that would just be synonymous with a video phone can rotate ... or even with any camera store.
My EX3 comparative directed by no means synonymous against EX3, but it would be better so that all the male managed to keep sharp s.Objekt.
But if the course is not wanted ... then why not a mobile phone?
Was the constant and ubiquitous lens hood in Picture synonymous intentional?
Was the aesthetics?
Antwort von Axel:
Must, must, must ... Man must be "nothing. Except shit, and even that can be a muscular man with the will to control. Since you have absolutely right.
The video does not match your taste. And? Where did you read? I'm always the first one, after the low depth of screams and the Last, the beautiful pictures as pointless abtut. What I say is (should I delete it?): What is so simple and loose, flaky from the wrist
looks shaken, with security is a small choice of mostly less beautiful pictures and lots suggests the idea that he could take such a DSLR and randomly from an otherwise dull set to get these pictures. Widersprichst me there?
Antwort von PowerMac:
I am opposed to that of a music video with EX3 look so good.
Antwort von WoWu:
Prima ... may be, it would probably be sharper and you do not have the lens edge constantly Picture .... probably synonymous artistically wanted ... and how would it be with a mobile phone?
Antwort von Spaceman:
The music is top, because there nothing to grumble!
Clearly we now have the minimum possible depth of field as a stylistic device ausgekostet Weil previously was simply not possible ....
Clearly the man synonymous with the EX3 its not how. But who is more on the "Look Up Everything" is to be 1 / 3 "or 1 / 2" Chipper access. Perhaps typical of the video look even kult times soon ...
Antwort von WoWu:
Lowest possible depth is always a sharp point ahead.
For most, however, have no sharp point .. or he just lies there, where it does not see, for example, "abgesoffenen" Black.
One can of course all sorts of nice talk but somehow reminds me of the video s.die Music of Stockhausen ... you can synonymous with a guitar on a straw doll and turn the sound on art explain ... synonymous there is sufficient followers.
But how you explain it, for now the lens edges in the picture .... synonymous art?
I think this is just a sloppy work, in the blur (retrospectively) to the art is stylized.
But it's drum .. as we can see, there is not only to meet Stockhausen fans.
Edit: I have nothing against Stockhausen ... did in the 80s even with a lot of him worked.
Only that now is not the home-floor fans are invited to feel ...
Antwort von B.DeKid:
What kind of camera lenses and what it is now been rotated - the video?
Had to learn interesting times.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... What kind of camera lenses and what it is now been rotated ... The camera was a Nikon D90, details of the optics are not met me. For another video, the director, however, Nikon fixed focal length 24mm, 50mm and 85mm used - perhaps it was the same here.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Spaceman:
I've just not brilliant business idea:
One could but now for the film SLR's so-called 1 / 3 "Adapters out a. S.die The front will be bolted SLR like once a 35mm adapter. You get nice again consistently sharp images, of 30 cm to infinity. No matter where the focus lies. For those who do not want to regulate and sharpness on the TV stand look. Let's see where I was the little slices Matt & financial. When about 2000 counts per adapter should NEN but ordinary margin together. I will create Businessplan NEN times ....
Antwort von raymaker:
You just trying to be funny? If you do not succeeded.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Kannst ja synonymous NEN bellows tuned because it will build up in the finest Macroberreich purely focusieren.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
hab ne ... just brilliant business idea about ... 2000 EUR per adapter ... times NEN Businessplan will create .... Well hopefully you have not already started with writing, because your competitor offers such an "adapter for more depth of field" since ancient times to - here, for example, for a good 20 euro:
www.monochrom.com/cc/monoc/shop/rmiArt003.asp?artnum=00026393
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von WoWu:
... What kind of camera lenses and what it is now been rotated ...
The camera was a Nikon D90, details of the optics are not met me. For another video, the director, however, Nikon fixed focal length 24mm, 50mm and 85mm used - perhaps it was the same here.
Gruß Bernd E. Bernd, from where comes the info, because not a single RS to see what the D90 might be quite unusual and whether this is a JPEG?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Bernd ... where the info comes ... From the director personally:
http://dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=151089
There, he writes - for instance DeKids second question to be answered - synonymous to Optics as the AF-S DX 18-105mm was used in the kit with the D90 is supplied.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Spaceman:
Can someone raymaker the cheer? The world seems just ne collapsed to be .... its seems the VHS tapes hinterherzuheulen ....
Antwort von dvcut:
The rigs go on sale Nov 1 including pricing. We anticipate offering 2
bundles, a cinema package (which is shown in the images) s.approx $ 2395 USD and a Field Cinema Package (no matte, but including a shouldermount) for approx $ 1995 USD. Both kits include rail system, follow focus, lens gears, Baseplate, quick release system, cage, and top handle.
