Infoseite // SD PAL | charts with text from Photoshop to Premiere

Frage von halbschuh:


Hello

I apologize in advance at the risk that this topic is old hat, but I have the best will not find threads that deal with this matter in detail.

I have an HD project in Premiere Pro 2.0. Source material is 1440x1080. I have several graphics using Photoshop CS2 (PSD format, 1920x1080, 600dpi), stretched to 1440x1080, saved as PNG and in Premiere reingeholt. Looks perfect.

Play: The entire Project is synonymous than SD PAL available. So I have a project in Premiere Pro 2.0, DV PAL widescreen. When I here the same graphics from PSD to either 720x576, 768x576 or 1024x576 natively as abpeichere, see the graphics on my LCD s.Computer somewhat ok, but not as good as Photoshop itself in order, I can live, where I do not understand why it's in HD looks just as good as in Photoshop, but with SD (in the same size as in Photoshop) to quality losses.

If I then the whole thing as a DVD-MPEG2 and export on a tube television, there is nothing more. Verpixelte font, unreadable, no Comparison to display on LCD.

What am I doing wrong? I have tried with different fonts, different size (sometimes only one large letter font size about 300), it always looks really miserable out.

Thank you for your help!



Antwort von robbie:

small note, the next-through: premiere can. psd - file import ...



Antwort von Markus:

"shoes" wrote: ... (PSD format, 1920x1080, 600dpi) ...
Only briefly in advance: how much dpi as you specify in the video is completely no preference.

Cross-reference:
1000 dpi bei Animationen?

"shoes" wrote: 1000 dpi bei Animationen?

So I have a project in Premiere Pro 2.0, DV PAL widescreen. 1000 dpi bei Animationen?


Is it HD-SD in a Project or the material was already correct to DV size scaled / rendered?



Antwort von robbie:

synonymous correctly, I was faster: P. .. no, I think it runs everything pointed out that it is. psd files imported. then the rules and guidelines vector, and then the size again no preference ...



Antwort von bento124:

Hi robbie, hello Mark

Thank you for your answers!

I have now tried the following. I have 12 Figure (All 72dpi) and draw it out of the widescreen DV project from Premiere Pro 2.0 DVD-MPEG2 created:

- Big Font / 720x576 / Original PSD unchanged
- Big Font / 720x576 / New PSD, a layer
- Big Font / 720x576 / New PSD, smoothed

- Small font / 720x576 / Original PSD unchanged
- Small font / 720x576 / New PSD, a layer
- Small font / 720x576 / New PSD, smoothed

The 720er files in Premiere, I have re-interpreted (PAL 16:9, ratio 1:1,422)

- Big Font / 1024x576 / Original PSD unchanged
- Big Font / 1024x576 / New PSD, a layer
- Big Font / 1024x576 / New PSD, smoothed

- Small font / 1024x576 / Original PSD unchanged
- Small font / 1024x576 / New PSD, a layer
- Small font / 1024x576 / New PSD, smoothed

The same result is still propagated. If I use the DVD-MPEG2 on the LCD s.Computer chart, the result is somewhat less well than the original in Photoshop. I burn the DVD-effective MPEG2 on DVD and watch it on TV s.Röhren have the scriptures and writings verhackte see verpixelt from.

And the fonts are really small. If I use the example with the TV stations, see the preview for a film with the text, then their writings are about half of small and razor sharp look out on the tube TV. Of course, they have other technologies s.Start, simply as a comparison.



Antwort von robbie:

I think you should we get some screenshots present. I've tried your problem "to build", but for me, everything is sharp ...

Hast thou synonymous as PAR all values correctly?
Again, on the dpi you need not take ...

Your problem may well be the "re-interpret" lie. That I never have to do ... in Photoshop when you can already generate a new file format DV PAL widescreen "choose ...



Antwort von bento124:

Hello Robbie

Thanks for the tip with the presets in Photoshop, which I knew not. So I have a new document in Photoshop with the preset PAL D1 / DV widescreen, 720 x 576 is created.

If I reinhole in Premiere, it looks good, without the quality loss that I had up to now.

Then I created a DVD from MPEG2 premiere. When I look in the VLC looks on the LCD s.Computer perfectly from here. This is already great!

If I now burn to DVD and s.der tube (I have two away here), the result looks almost the same as before. Verhackte and verpixelte writings.

Is this just a basic problem of the tube that the quality is just bad? Other hand, the text in the credits as a film from verhackt not synonymous.

Is it still an option, instead of Photoshop when I would use After Effects? And the articles but not as graphic as film installation?

Thanks again for your support!



Antwort von halbschuh:

Oops, was not logged. Another question to Pixel Aspect Ratio: Do I still what specifically set, after I the corresponding preset in Photoshop for the new document have chosen? When you save or somewhere else?



Antwort von halbschuh:

With After Effects, I have it with the setting composition D1 / DV PAL widescreen (1.42) tries, the result looks even worse-quality ...






Antwort von robbie:

No, you must not change when saving.
In Photoshop, the whole way, look worse than it is.

Again the request, here are some screenshots of the problem indicated. My crystal ball, I fell down, and the post office always needs for so long from Oz

Forget After Effects here now. The problem seems to you now synonymous in the conversion to mpeg after lie. Well any incorrect settings, just as with Photoshop. As I said, SCREENSHOTS PLEASE, I can help you, maybe, hopefully ...



Antwort von halbschuh:

Sorry, here are the screenshots. Attachment has unfortunately not worked, martial here by the Forum is always an error ...

Photoshop. 720 x 576th

http://www.northshore.ch/temp/01_photoshop.jpg

Premiere, looks wonderful:

http://www.northshore.ch/temp/02_premiere.jpg

DVD to TV tubes, verhackt (really looks like this was not the worse Still Image):

http://www.northshore.ch/temp/03_roehren_tv.jpg
http://www.northshore.ch/temp/04_roehren_tv.jpg

On the 04_roehren_tv.jpg is clearly synonymous this kind of "shadow", white strokes behind the font. That is what I have on both tube TVs can be noted. And the fonts look the same on both tubes bad.

Thanks for your help!

Addendum: When I burned the DVD on the computer or LCD watch, it looks perfect. So it seems that the conversion to DVD-MPEG2 synonymous of change correctly.



Antwort von Martin Dienert:

Hi shoe,

your writing is just too thin. Look at the times of Filmabspännen. Synonymous and the contrast between white (letters) and black (background) seems to me somewhat too high. The font is a bit blur synonymous safely possible. Abkucken among professionals is certainly allowed. ;-) One Television is now not a computer monitor.

Martin



Antwort von halbschuh:

Hi Martin

Thank you for your reply. I have it now times with another, fatter font probiert. And also the font size increased. Thus, there are sometimes much better, maybe I should stop so happy and so did play around until I get a size, which reasonably easy to read.

I have several DVDs (sports movies, not Hollywood productions) views, which have lots of small articles (with and without a transparent background) and inside it looks on the tube from razor sharp.

I'm obviously happy when I find a compromise. But I really knew very, very happy, as well as the hingekriegt have.



Antwort von robbie:

Well, small well-written and beautifully ...
First ...
What data do you use for mpeg2?

It could be synonymous s.den broadcast Colors lie. Pure white is often too white.
Try out the titles on the Effect broadcast colors apply.

It might also be subject s.der tube. Do you have the whole synonymous tried on other TVs?



Antwort von PowerMac:

The problem is that you are using DV. DV is scheisse for Articles, credits and animations. Trite. Take Still Image JPEG or uncompressed text. You can of course then not convert DV, but directly to MPEG-2.



Antwort von robbie:

Yes, that's true.
But Premiere is not synonymous with internal IR. And when he referred to render mpeg verhaut what benefits each MJPEG nothing.
Because why create a world premiere at me thin and small fonts, like Helvetica Condensed Ultra?



Antwort von PowerMac:

I guess almost, that makes it the premiere in his version:

JPEG / PNG -> DV -> MPEG-2

It must however be:

TIFF / PNG / Photoshop -> MPEG-2

or:

TIFF / PNG / Photoshop -> Stillimage-JPEG/Animation Codec -> MPEG-2

And without zwischenberechnen the timeline! You do not need DV in between.



Antwort von robbie:

Would certainly be an elegant solution. Meanwhile, he works with the least so. Psd - file. Because he has some problems less. I must now try smooth ... I've been forever no longer imported as png title ...






Antwort von Markus:

"PowerMac" wrote: I guess almost, that makes it the premiere in his version:

JPEG / PNG -> DV -> MPEG-2
Since I'm not so sure. If I title with critical (!) Colors in the timeline and have them convert MPEG2, the result (here: the title) is significantly better than when I use the contents of the timeline into a new DV-AVI save this new video file and import again with the same parameters MPEG2 compress.

"shoes" wrote: So I have a project in Premiere Pro 2.0, DV PAL widescreen.
My next question of the top was still open and I suspect the cause of the problem: Is the HD material in a Project or SD video content has been correctly applied to the DV size scaled / rendered before the title was added? Not that it s.Ende but a problem of rendering premiere is, for example by the internal title of a set of HD content and then the second step, everything (including the title) will be scaled.



Antwort von halbschuh:

Hello everybody!

Wow! Thank you for the many answers and many of the inputs is so super!

I have now done the following:

1. My HD source material (1440x1080) as an uncompressed QuickTime (Apple None) from Premiere via Adobe Media Encoder to export.

2. In a new Premiere Project (PAL widescreen DV) and created the uncompressed HD QuickTime files imported to the timeline drawn and scaled.

3. In Photoshop I created a new document with the preset "PAL D1 / DV widescreen" is created.

4. Now, what I believe to the success has contributed significantly. I have, as of Dienert Martin and robbie mentioned, a less thinner font (Color: # bababa) and used to put a shadow (75%, Size 2px, 2px spacing, color: # 222222).

5. The graphics and saved as a PSD into Premiere and re-imported to the timeline set. Then I have a DVD-MPEG2 (in my case with ProCoder3) from Premiere created and the result looks forward from the beginning in no way similar.

Thank you for all your help and advice!



Antwort von halbschuh:

Addendum: What actually was the problem, the bit depth used in the Project for the rendering of the clip. In Premiere you can - as far as I know - not like in Final Cut Pro a separate codec for the sequence to select. Therefore, all the graphics, the premiere imported into the timeline and then render inserted be converted into mpeg2 (mpeg2 HDV =). This is because the codec premiere of the original material (so the clips in the Project) back and everything with this codec renders. This naturally leads to quality losses. The opposite effect may be made:

In Premiere: Project menu> Project Settings> General> Video Rendering> Maximum Enable bit.

That showed me a quantum leap regarding quality improvement.