Frage von _DSP_:
We have a camera dolly selbstgebastelt that really smoothly and on Eckleisten from the DIY (as rails) is moving.
If we now turn frontal shot, the rails are often times in the Picture (path).
Testimonials possibly?
Thank you in advance ...
Antwort von jansi:
Possibility of purely s.System on eBay, including tripod buy
Option b) lay parallel rails (for the actors, for example) and then on a crane to film. Understandable terms? Probably not ...
I versuchs again: The actors are running a plug A-> B.
In parallel to this route presents its your system. The Dolly get a crane, the jib is at a 90 ° angle of the rails s.and so the camera follows the actors.
Antwort von Reimer Reimer:
After Effects ...
All the best Axel
Antwort von Johannes:
After Effects ...
All the best Axel Really silly answer. I would recommend you not to sell the Dolly and Steadycam to buy one, because it is heavier with a Steadycam to make good shots than with a dolly. I myself would be synonymous to Jansi 2nd variante access if you are not entirely clear what he means:
http://www.yak.ch/images/equipment/Panther_Jib.jpg
Antwort von Reimer Reimer:
Hi John,
Wegmaskieren of disturbing the minutiae is not an act of
Impossible. Is synonymous with the many small-scale cut -
programs.
And the whole is absolutely safe to ...
When I think s.einen DIY Dolly on which a self-Crane
herumschunkelt, hide me under the table s.liebsten. Who
always turning when a physician has with the times and the synonymous
want to see in action, only to ...
All the best Axel
Antwort von urmel:
I know enough self-built camera cranes to the expensive of ABC or how they say everything in nothing except the Remote Head below.
Among treasures but not directly a homemade crane or dolly just because it is not ABC.
Antwort von urmel:
TÜV is not synonymous to it.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
(...) On the dolly get a crane, the jib is at a 90 ° angle of the rails s.and the camera follows the actor .(...) must not equal 90 °, as it would with the half-angle of the lens at a given focal? Even in mild telephoto would be fairly acute angle can be achieved.
Wenns just frontally to be helping only telephoto position and camera position as deep, slightly upward.
If this is not synonymous, rausradieren rails. Or script change: "Guck mal, the beautiful dolly tracks!" Bautz * * "ouch" :-))))
BG
Andreas
Antwort von Reimer Reimer:
Among treasures but not directly a homemade crane or dolly just because it is not ABC. MOT: ever heard?
For duty cranes ...
Setsicherheit's important, but there is so synonymous enthusiasts who
Butter paper s.Baustrahler stick ...
All the best Axel
Antwort von urmel:
MOT: ever heard?
For duty cranes ...
Setsicherheit's important, but there is so synonymous enthusiasts who
Butter paper s.Baustrahler stick ... On the issue DIY, Insurance and cheap by Inkaufnehmen of disasters, this rather long but entertaining thread:
http://forum.slashcam.de/schwenkarm-bauen-aber-wie-vt45202.html
Antwort von jansi:
[...] Help only telephoto position [...] But this is a DIY dolly. Whether because the tele-field trips are still so "gentle" look is questionable.
Antwort von r.p.television:
TÜV is not synonymous to it. Then I would give s.wenigsten. Only because the TUV times for the Money Prüfstempel-Tribune has this part must not be sure.
Know numerous counter-examples (not necessarily for cranes), where TÜV-tested parts broke sooner than competitors from overseas. The were able to bribe the auditor TÜV useful in the development work or material stuck.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
[...] Help only telephoto position [...]
But this is a DIY dolly. Whether because the tele-field trips are still so "gentle" look is questionable. ... it is not equal to full out! I had the times with an Hubsteiger (the so-called?) Probiert, oh you green nine ... :-)
BG
Andreas
Antwort von C.I.W:
The advantage of a crane is among other things, still, that you, depending on the size of a long boom can exit routes:
If the car is s.Schienenende the boom still pushed forward. How do I do it always.
PS: I have not synonymous TUEV and Sa * has not synonymous only us stupid angeguckt, let alone asked.
Antwort von Reimer Reimer:
Well, but then you buy a car without Insp ... they are
unbeatably cheap ... and take off ...
All the best Axel
Antwort von r.p.television:
Well, but then you buy a car without Insp ... they are
unbeatably cheap ... and take off ...
All the best Axel Do you work at TÜV or why it is so important to you?
Surely it is a useful institution, but only synonymous because the German mentality a dipl. ing. Test needs to feel safe. In other countries do things without TÜV synonymous, because the people themselves to take care of their stuff.
If one of the Insp pay enough, everything gets its approval or Prüfplakette. And since then, the security actually on the track.
PS: When I stand 5 cars in the garage, thanks to the red number without TÜV are applying. And I bet they are reliable, than any GOLF II, the times just before closing time on the TÜV-pit and is running. Or it's a friend of the verifier over earlier times, etc. Have a car in a workshop and was working there for a bribe or Amigo business with TÜV and Dekra runs is unbelievable. Because plaques are blind on the table.
So not always as blind faith in the test invest.
Antwort von Johannes:
This is not about how high the crane is the only one of him so Dolly can move (left or right) the rails are no longer watching. Here the crane is so high on the dolly to stay. If something s.Kran cancel just because of the "TÜV" lacks nothing big can happen, or someone take great harm. Does it matter how high the crane should come have a look over it to reflect.
Because there totally different / stronger forces act and so the camera at break of the arm to make deadly projectile. As I have learned since officially only someone with an extra examination s.einem crane work. I think it is often synonymous to the purpose s.wo you use the crane, because if you just rain gutter of your top look like a self-sufficient synonymous or whether you build it over the heads of other people want to swing something safe and TÜV then tested the question.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
If one of the Insp pay enough, everything gets its approval or Prüfplakette. And since then, the security actually on the track.
So this is really unique in the field of urban legends! You mean to the point with the sham Fifty Mark s.Auspuff?
That is absolutely untrue and defamatory! With my wheelbarrow, I never stayed hundred marks ...
;-)
Andreas
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... As I have learned since officially only someone with an extra audit work s.einem crane ... How do you rate this information and who should decline such tests? Honestly I think it's a rumor.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Johannes:
It was active in a video you would like the issue and give a quote but unfortunately, I think the issue is not currently. Once I proved I had it to you. Is it synonymous with the insurance.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Once I had it I think it shows you ... Danke schon mal in advance, that would really interest me.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
... you can calmly synonymous believe without proof. We are in Germany, a sub-set of Europe. Here, even the slope of toilet pipes standardized: - /
Antwort von Reimer Reimer:
Hello,
it comes out again and that is something to break. Since then crashes
the 25-kilo-Wicht contrary to the ground takes the half with a crane and
front the camera shoots koppheister and separates the main actor
the right arm.
Witted tear-director of the DIY sandwich paper
Of the Baustrahlern and saves the main character's life.
The recovering in hospital thanks to the intensive care doctors
soon of his bruises and shakes with the director
his left hand and laughs:
"You were the turning nippy! Happy again ... I have one arm still."
So go the stories always made. TÜV is totally unnecessary and
Insurance companies and doctors equally important are five cars in the garage
run like greased. And then there are forums, where intelligent
People people who eventually want to be synonymous clever, wise
Advice:
TÜV? Kannste Kloppe at the garbage can.
And in the restaurant's taste s.besten when five years None
by the "TÜV" Dingens vorbeigeschaut has.
All the best Axel
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... that you can calmly synonymous believe without proof. We are in Germany ... Well, ash on my head! Who the administration of the trade association's "principles of choice, training and qualification for operators of Kamerakranen" in detail would like to read, you can do so:
www.tkevent.de/cms/upload/pdf/SP_25_1_6.pdf
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Johannes:
is now back
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Bernd your link is unfortunately not. Strange. Did it before and after the item and just tested and it has worked every time.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von r.p.television:
@ reimer reimer:
Since you as a lobby for the TÜV represents, one can only assume that you somehow with which to do.
The Vollpfosten at TÜV synonymous always gave me the funniest horror stories, times when my license plate lights are not standard, was appropriate. That right there is a rear spring was broken but then s.selben first day of my workshop seen.
Safety it is better to ensure ownership.
This can of course not everybody. Then should not everyone is synonymous operate a crane. It brings the whole TUEV nothing, if something is wrong flanged etc.
Surely it is perhaps more comfortable behind the TÜV to blame in the shoes to push, but if the main actor from the crane abgescherten hair in the size of a house, it is synonymous already too late.
Because then you can still be "wise" to be.
All the best, Mike
Antwort von Johannes:
I would be so times intressieren extend this Tüv sticker in the event of an accident due to material defects play a role or is it afterwards eh no preference?
ps: you should put it in a new thread pack.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
... in an accident is always the question of the cause and the degree of negligence. Impossible, that's what a flat rate to be answered. The lack of acceptance of a crane, the inability of personal Kranbedieners (may be in the absence of training under) and so may provide clues to the cause of accident and the degree of fault type.
BG
Andreas
Antwort von Johannes:
So it would be a reason for the damage insurance does not pay to apply?
Antwort von lugburz:
It would be time for a new feature film ....
"Klaus of the crane"
;-)
Antwort von r.p.television:
The lump sum is not to answer.
If just a operating or assembly errors of the user evidence may be excluded, regardless of this finding first all claims for damages or synonymous criminal action against the user or owner of the crane addressed.
This is always good advice - whether a crane is in play or not - a commercial liability insurance to have.
This then is the first covers all claims. It is then the case is with the insurance claims s.den to contact Manufacturer.
What role is a TÜV certificate is playing, you can probably answer just None.
Very bad is it when a really grossly negligent installation or operation error. Then synonymous insurance a long-term damage to refuse cover. Even if a TÜV stamp on it is. And that is for many people the problem, because the forecast Deppe safety switch off the brain.
It is synonymous to me personally because of my self-compiled fry crane of a technically advanced user rather than a high dipl. ing. Wonder that it is because of assembly errors or incorrect handling immediately or at some time in a row breaks.
It is with certainty no mistake, if any label of a recognized organization it is. But you should always keep in mind who paid for this exam. And even when TUEV synonymous or whom ever the customer is king ....
And I speak now not of quoted 50iger in the exhaust. Something quite rare. But for larger customers with the many orders with a view to follow orders, it will just synonymous times an eye zugedrückt.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Whether a third-party insurance may refuse the performance is in the law except in cases of motor vehicle. still somewhat controversial. For the motor is that the insurance benefits even for gross negligence by the UN may not refuse (a consequence of the
compulsory insurance).
If yes, the "culprit" in permanent bodily injury equal to a rope.
Whether the insurance claim at the UN can take and how much is obviously another Schnack (affirmative in the case of gross negligence, worn summer tires in winter, plus excessive speed; affirmative: Alcohol s.Steuer).
For the rest would be in an accident with a selbstgebasteltem crane, which ends with personal injury, financial / possibly criminal consequences probably the smallest problem with the "guilty".
BG
Andreas
Antwort von r.p.television:
Once gross negligence can be proved, will make any insurance across. The question is, of course, how an assembly or operating errors as gross negligence can be declared.
Drunk Kamerakran server as an example would be perhaps to be mentioned. Erstmal Sounds strange, but I would exclude this possibility is not ;-)
I think the cranes weighing no more than 15 kilos of lift, not be viewed as such. At the very least of an official Page. That's why nobody is here synonymous for a "license" to ask.
But maybe someone here knows more, s.wann crane is a crane, which is one and only requires approval of a practitioner may be served?
Antwort von PowerMac:
Funny, I was a drink, come back and it still chopping successive rum. Axel B. is not in any event by TUV, but from Hamburg;) fulminate against what it always synonymous: the lawyer, writer, cameraman of the EB and the amateur cameraman and a 14-year-old student. All are more or less simultaneously further Filmmakers. Bravo, a deposit of all gloss.
On topic: I would either NEN ordinary Steadi OP-book or the rails and lay parallel with the boom three or four meters alongside drive. If this is clean, you can possibly rail (each is safe ever happens) is really easy retouch. Alternatively, the setting should be different and some may dissolve schief ride (outside rails). Or just about dissolve settings and close the ride selbstoffenbarende shot saved. Or: Only Zoomfahrt later Dolly ride. Can synonymous look good when you create the transition fluid. I have at least None Vertigo ride rails seen so far;)
Antwort von PowerMac:
For Crane Operator:
Around the SWR is synonymous regulations, who may operate cranes. There are really additional "training" is required. Has the advantage that it avoids error and that any actions are criticized.
Your talking all but synonymous to each other. Your talking about the one of professional camera cranes, where her small jib-arms and large-Felix cranes with 20 meters must differentiate. The latter, I would never want to and can operate, the former already. Next you're on the other the DIY Group. Just what is it? Axel thinks s.leichtfertige secure constructions of amateurs who have little safe. "rp televesion" certainly thinks s.große professional self-construction, of film people, such as camera people, ie people from the tray. The fact is that all camera cranes and everything from the field camera earlier stage of cameramen even been built. For example, the Tripods, cranes (1910-25) or as a prominent example of the Steadicam Garret Brown, a cameraman himself. Thus the borders disappear. Today we have just TÜV-Siegel, the occupational safety, safe construction and good workmanship guarantee. The TÜV is certainly not so easy to fool. Just because there are individual cases in which for 50 euros the plaque was a gift, does not mean that the TÜV in camera inspection of cranes schlampft. In principle, TUV approvals toll and I prefer to trust an "Engineer" as a "hobbyist". The people who build themselves properly are anyway mostly professionals or engineers. All others are amateurs. And on whose works we discuss here is not!
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Antwort von DWUA:
@ Powermac
Why not?
Although an American ass, arm, head, feet, scrotum significantly
more valuable than, for example, a German, but if you properly
liability insurance, (business and / or / private), the
does not matter anymore.
:-)
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
... who now writes the script on this thread? Here I see now at least 45 minutes delicious slapstick!
:-)))
Antwort von Johannes:
@ Bernd E. Active in the digital video output: 2 2007 February / March on Page 61 steh everything. Powermac Because now everything said, I probably need nothing more synonymous quote.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
@ Bernd E. Active in the digital video output: 2 2007 February / March on Page 61, stand by everything ... Thank you for your lookup!
Gruß Bernd E.
