Frage von Thorbj:
Hello,
I want to buy something decent to me :-)
FullHD 1920x1080 he shall have tape or hard drive or memory card, I min is no preference, the main thing. 18 Mbps, super sharp, sensible LowLight behavior, large lens with 10x zoom or more, not too small (the device, but not a huge shoulder device must be), with Image Stabilization.
And not more than 3000 euros. Well, maybe by 3000 around ...
Are there any sowas? I could not find anything. All semi-prof. Parts cost more than 3000 euro and only offer 1440x1080 pixels. I do not like that. Why are there FullHD, if the devices can be sensible 500 pixels out?
Thus, a small little engine-camera as the Panasonic HDC-HS300, which I had last, not simply what any good really. The Lenses are too small, the sharpness is worse than the Canon HG-10 over a year ago. Nevertheless, these things still cost about $ 1,000.
Can someone tell me what the topic?
Antwort von xandix:
Well at "around 3000, - Euro" you'll find nothing ....
You should "around 4000, - EURO" can .....
Antwort von Thorbj:
I found something, at least I think so. The new Panasonic AG-HMC41E, presented on this page. Come out in August, but 3x 3 MP (; schonmal better than if one) composed of a Picture from 3x 1 MP's is not too great, and makes FullHD costs under 3000th Test results erstmal course I'll wait and see.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Is there any sowas? ... Perhaps the brand new Panasonic AG-HMC41?
... only 1440x1080 pixels ... Why are there FullHD, when the sound devices can be 500 pixels out? ... About the practical benefits of "Full HD" one can argue, in fact, especially in the professional (; semi-) field. There are number games less than the image result - and this must not be visible at 1440x1080 worse.
Antwort von Jogi:
Hello,
I want to buy something decent to me :-)
FullHD 1920x1080 he shall have tape or hard drive or memory card, I min is no preference, the main thing. 18 Mbps, super sharp, sensible LowLight behavior, large lens with 10x zoom or more, not too small (the device, but not a huge shoulder device must be), with Image Stabilization.
And not more than 3000 euros. Well, maybe by 3000 around ...
Are there any sowas? I could not find anything. All semi-prof. Parts cost more than 3000 euro and only offer 1440x1080 pixels. I do not like that. Why are there FullHD, if the devices can be sensible 500 pixels out?
Thus, a small little engine-camera as the Panasonic HDC-HS300, which I had last, not simply what any good really. The Lenses are too small, the sharpness is worse than the Canon HG-10 over a year ago. Nevertheless, these things still cost about $ 1,000.
Can someone tell me what the topic? Then reach for SonyPMW EX1. But twice as expensive. With it, you have everything you want!
Antwort von Thorbj:
SonyPMW-EX1 like it. But I am definitely too expensive for "just" holiday movies. Earn ja nix it. Although I do not want optimum image quality, but not at any price. The Panasonic AG-HMC41 is not there to compete, but that it costs under 3000th
Antwort von Johannes:
Used HVX200 / 2001? There is, if one looks neat, between 1800 and 3000 euros.
Antwort von tracey:
I want to sell my HVX200E. Meld Dich doch mal. She has everything except what you are looking really strong low-light performance.
Guck dir doch mal in the camcorder to camcorder Comparison.
Greetings ....
Antwort von Jogi:
I want to sell my HVX200E. Meld Dich doch mal. She has everything except what you are looking really strong low-light performance.
Guck dir doch mal in the camcorder to camcorder Comparison.
Greetings .... Thorbj still looking for a FullHD cam!
Antwort von schlaflos011:
Look at times in the JVC GY-HM100.
Antwort von tracey:
404ERR
Antwort von Johannes:
I want to sell my HVX200E. Meld Dich doch mal. She has everything except what you are looking really strong low-light performance.
Guck dir doch mal in the camcorder to camcorder Comparison.
Greetings ....
Thorbj still looking for a FullHD cam! So I know a Slashcam and makes the camcorder, the HVX200 review images with a resolution of 1920x1080, which would correspond yes FullHD. Or Am I mistaken?
Antwort von Jogi:
So I know a Slashcam and makes the camcorder, the HVX200 review images with a resolution of 1920x1080, which would correspond yes FullHD. Or Am I mistaken? That would be me, but new. Max Resolution 1440x1080! So HDV!
Antwort von Meggs:
Thorbj still looking for a FullHD cam! It is crucial however, wass rear comes out, not what draufsteht in a data sheet or on the packaging.
A good HDV camcorder can have a sharper picture with more detail than a not so good-HD camcorder.
Full HD means that it is recorded in 1920 x 1080, are synonymous if the chips or the lens not have enough resolution.
The HVX200 for example, has only 960 x 540 resolution chip and wins its final resolution using pixel shift.
That seems to me to be more important than the question of whether they ultimately recording in HDV or FullHD.
Antwort von rush:
So I know a Slashcam and makes the camcorder, the HVX200 review images with a resolution of 1920x1080, which would correspond yes FullHD. Or Am I mistaken?
That would be me, but new. Max Resolution 1440x1080! So HDV! "Panasonic the other hand, in the freely available documentation makes no official information on the three 1/3-Inch- CCD sensors of the HVX200, but it is probably to just chip with 960 x 540 pixels - so half of 1920 x 1.080 - the However, horizontally and vertically offset from each other are). generated by pixel shift Panasonic also made from the low native resolution of individual sensors, a 1080p50 signal, because in this standard, according to Manufacturer always the further signal processing: just before recording the signals in accordance with 1080i or 720p encoded. "
Source: film-tv-video.de
Antwort von Meggs:
With only 960 x 540 pixels - so half of 1920 x 1080 This is not the half, but 1 quarters of FullHD. Horizontal and vertical half-half. Less than most SD camcorders.
It is of course still ne good camera and has its advantages, but does not show with particular sharpness.
Antwort von Johannes:
Thorbj still looking for a FullHD cam!
It is crucial however, wass rear comes out, not what draufsteht in a data sheet or on the packaging.
A good HDV camcorder can have a sharper picture with more detail than a not so good-HD camcorder.
Full HD means that it is recorded in 1920 x 1080, are synonymous if the chips or the lens not have enough resolution.
The HVX200 for example, has only 960 x 540 resolution chip and wins its final resolution using pixel shift.
That seems to me to be more important than the question of whether they ultimately recording in HDV or FullHD. Yeah that's clear. And aware synonymous with the Panasonic deep rummaging in the bag of tricks was. But it was agreed that the HVX200 to the Full HD Cams and is not HDV! Because HDV is a format between Sony, Canon and JVC. Panasonic DVCPRO HD and AVCHD is only as HD format.
And these two are indeed synonymous 1440x1080i AVCHD at 1920x1080 with about.
What is with the Panasonic HMC151? Perhaps lies slightly above your budget, but if little comes out now I think is synonymous with the 151 the price go down.
Antwort von Meggs:
But it was agreed that the HVX200 to the Full HD Cams and is not HDV! I had the impression that we went to a real Thorbj largest possible resolution.
All semi-prof. Parts cost more than 3000 euro and only offer 1440x1080 pixels. I do not like that. Why are there FullHD, if the devices can be sensible 500 pixels out?
The HVX200 has ultimately in the Picture a lower resolution than HDV camcorder like the Canon A1s, even though you save in FullHD.
Antwort von Meggs:
I found something, at least I think so. The new Panasonic AG-HMC41E, presented on this page. Come out in August, but 3x 3 MP (; schonmal better than when you composed the picture from 3x 1 MP) has I think because you deceive yourself. HMC41E the MP has a total of 3, ie 3 x 1 MP.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... the HMC41E has a total of 3 MP, ie 3 x 1 MP ... No, was all right. The HMC41 has inherited, so to speak, the inner workings of the HS300 and so synonymous with three CMOS three megapixels - it's actually be around 2.5 per MP sensor.
Antwort von Meggs:
Are you sure?
Sometimes I have a feeling that builds in the Panasonic camcorder, the one that was just lying around, or cheap or activity. Some camcorders have only 1 / 4 of the final resolution on the chip, other times the 1.5 - 2.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Are you sure? ... Thus it is at least in the prospectus of HMC41, and it would be synonymous if only for financial reasons resulting sense to take a pre-built system in series simply for a new camera - the auto industry to make this principle successfully.
Antwort von Meggs:
And it would be synonymous if only for financial reasons resulting sense to take a pre-built system in series simply for a new camera - the auto industry to make this principle successfully. Yes, sure. From this perspective, it would be understandable if the install would always have the same chip. But they did not make. They tend to incorporate in HD camcorder SD chips, and vice versa.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... You are more likely to incorporate in HD camcorder SD chips, and vice versa ... The ways of the Lord Panasonic are very unsearchable! Here's happened to us originally to the HMC41 and given the striking similarity of the sensor data which can with the 300 series from the consumer area, we probably go out in good conscience believe that the same technique with three-3MP CMOS drinsteckt.
