Frage von RocknRoyal:
Hi,
so now after almost everyone should know that I do with the PMW-EX3 made by Sonyeine have really good camera, which I have not the slightest ausreizen, but to me anyway, I've always kept open, a second EX3 buy order currently targeted at my wedding music and movies while filming from different angles to be able to ....
Now, I have unexpectedly made an offer, because I am now with a friend in the studio and was there but was in fact someone who has such a Camera "Red One" has (Has a few indie films so tried by its own admission) and he gave me because now a very tempting offer, because he sent me the camera for ¬ 11,000 would sell, but I do not know what it would be etc - but what do you this? Would it make sense? ... it makes sense at all with "different" cameras to work (because there are no possessions of experience) but if I as a music video shoot, a wedding movies etc and partly with the EX3 and with "Red One" - that you notice the picture later guarantee the material so tremendously , does not it?
I'm really a little torn out and her ... I would be interested in your opinions ... I must confess to my shame that I until a few hours not even knowing what a "Red One camera is * g *...
Gruss
Alex.
Antwort von Johannes:
So I think Hochtzeiten and Eventfilmerei is EB. And Redone is now clearly a film camera is not for EB use. For 11,000 you will get probably just the body. That means you need Optics, hard disks, and and Other So it will not remain in the 11k. If you operate in more camera works, it is already s.with the same camera or min. Manufacturer of the same work. Since according to the company synonymous color of the chips varies, the best example of Canon and Sony.
Especially since you certainly not alone with the camera can work but need an assistant. Furthermore, the major difference in the resolution. And I also think the Red is not just the best for Lowlight is, yes they need not be synonymous, when the film is so eh everything lit. Moreover, it is simply an entirely different class and you say yes you all do not have too much experience, so I advise you to ex3.
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
No,
the Camera is "complete", ie with Optics etc "IF" I have understood correctly - therefore it is so tempting but it's just really hold no other meaning. Surely it is irritating and "before" I've always said "I want to shoot films" but that I no longer exist, but lack the time and there are very many, very talented filmmakers in the country - because I would rather be in the range weddings, music videos, etc to stay. But a second EX3 then maybe someday follow, because I think it's just a stress-free work or "wrong" a beautiful work, if you then fall back more material can be from different angles etc ... without always rush out and her to have to ...
If you think that I of my existing budget for crane, dolly, light suitcases, camera etc ¬ 40,000 available, then it would be quite unfavorable synonymous now simply because of the price of a Red One can be tempted to leave the Course ....
What I find funny, however, I buy me in January so the 5D Mark II, but that was for me a very long established, synonymous with a time when I did not know that this is now synonymous video function, I am really excited drauf * g * ... but primarily it is really only in "Still Image" is being thought, as I with my EOS 400D since I came into old age ...
Grüßle
Alex.
Antwort von robbie:
tus not.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Hi Alex, again!
I am totally dumbfounded, sorry! When your Fussbalerstling I have thee still fairly highly praised and you must certify that you seem to have talent. But now you're really showing that you're a bloody Beginners, which is really only a little deeper into the world of general Videofilmerei (including equipment, etc.) should incorporate what the EX3 is certainly a great, if synonymous already see above end Kompliziertheitsskala suffer the Camera is. Especially if you are still synonymous with the same crane and dolly and s.besten its Steadycam Vest Outdent want ...
But you can choose to see ne Red ONE growth to want, when you are neither auto nor Autobelichtung else still auto-iges searched, and the experience in YOUR state, which borders s.totale in my view, absurd hubris!
With its so (movie) camera, you are guaranteed totally overwhelmed, even if you then rotate reportagemässig zBseiner wedding wish. None there waiting for you when you take NEN versaust because the focus was in the reeds! There goes the action (unrepeatable!) Next to Recording and lost! Since you are happy times in between if you have ne Camera, where there is a "great all-green auto button" Next thing, which you of the coarsest setting relieve worries! This was not the Red ONE!
And especially good is around the Red ONE without a lot of (expensive!) Zugemüse not!
Again: The Red One is ne-movie camera, which at least two operators and a massive park drum rum material is required only to have it operate properly and can contribute to!
I was once an actor on a set, where with the Red ONE on a Steadycam rig was rotated. This is WORK! At one Hochzeiit or Fussbalclub around the corner is the use of a Red ONE illusory, so geil part would no doubt!
S.dich My tip: Get out the "Craft" comprehensive and of the bottom up with your EX3. Then you slowly tastes direction dolly, crane and ev Steadycam rig before. All these items are simple, but in the handling and not without its poor error-handling will not only learned but practiced vorallem synonymous, because otherwise Takes no good! - Dear great recordings with "only" the suboptimal camera, rather than with the potentially most powerful equipment only amateur quality to achieve!
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
Hi Alex, again!
I am totally dumbfounded, sorry! When your Fussbalerstling I have thee still fairly highly praised and you must certify that you seem to have talent. But now you're really showing that you're a bloody Beginners, which is really only a little deeper into the world of general Videofilmerei (including equipment, etc.) should incorporate what the EX3 is certainly a great, if synonymous already see above end Kompliziertheitsskala suffer the Camera is. Especially if you are still synonymous with the same crane and dolly and s.besten its Steadycam Vest Outdent want ...
But you can choose to see ne Red ONE growth to want, when you are neither auto nor Autobelichtung else still auto-iges searched, and the experience in YOUR state, which borders s.totale in my view, absurd hubris!
With its so (movie) camera, you are guaranteed totally overwhelmed, even if you then rotate reportagemässig zBseiner wedding wish. None there waiting for you when you take NEN versaust because the focus was in the reeds! There goes the action (unrepeatable!) Next to Recording and lost! Since you are happy times in between if you have ne Camera, where there is a "great all-green auto button" Next thing, which you of the coarsest setting relieve worries! This was not the Red ONE!
And especially good is around the Red ONE without a lot of (expensive!) Zugemüse not!
Again: The Red One is ne-movie camera, which at least two operators and a massive park drum rum material is required only to have it operate properly and can contribute to!
I was once an actor on a set, where with the Red ONE on a Steadycam rig was rotated. This is WORK! At one Hochzeiit or Fussbalclub around the corner is the use of a Red ONE illusory, so geil part would no doubt!
S.dich My tip: Get out the "Craft" comprehensive and of the bottom up with your EX3. Then you slowly tastes direction dolly, crane and ev Steadycam rig before. All these items are simple, but in the handling and not without its poor error-handling will not only learned but practiced vorallem synonymous, because otherwise Takes no good! - Dear great recordings with "only" the suboptimal camera, rather than with the potentially most powerful equipment only amateur quality to achieve! No,
as I said - because you have already and I said yes synonymous quite fair that I until a few hours ago not even knowing what such a "Red One Camera is already a posting and then I even eingelenkt that is not the I now simply "buy, buy, buy" wants, no of course not! But it was a temptation in the short space confessed, when any such a camera for ¬ 11,000 (incl. completely optics etc) can get, where the body has probably cost more ... but I said yes it synonymous for my area that I would like to cover, not in question and the actual or guaranteed "apples and pears" - a pure film camera and then I come, the little Dr.Snuggles and would like to film the wedding, which of course I see a * g *. ..
So do not worry,
've already discarded and I am really just and exclusively by the price from the reserves to attract.
Yes,
a crane and dolly system, I would like to have - with the dolly for me probably was the first coming before me, I own a crane growth will ... But there are so many of being a decent matte, light suitcases etc ....
Netter Gruss,
Alexander.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Ah, then yes, we have understood! ;-) A lights in the eyes when I had 11K offer for functional ne Red ONE course synonymous get, but ...
At the same time I would be such an offer but somehow synonymous aback make: How can a fully functioning, fully-equipped Red ONE "only" 11K-cost Euros? There is something rotten!
At your place I would not be the first to buy Dolly, but a good Steadycam rig and then maybe the crane! - The Steadycam rig will give you some s.Trainingsaufwand demand, yes, but once dus well under control, you can order the dolly in the vast majority of cases, completely replace and then have further options that! - The Dolly is always "just" a dolly, and it is still far less easy transporieren! And Steadycam rig, you can basically synonymous alone build and operate. When Dolly lone as you have no chance!
PS
Still NEN tip to "cite-function" here: You need not complete NEN prescribing section of a hundred percent record in the quote, only to then respond in globo. It is within the quote-/quote-Tags synonymous edit and go through as "(...)" hint that they were on the whole section would like to relate! Makes a thread much easier to "digest", if not in every reply there all leading Vorbeiträge synonymous appear again! ;-)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... such a camera for ¬ 11,000 (incl. completely optics etc) can get, where the body has probably costs more ... I've got the RED-Prices are not ready, this camera because I'm very little or not at all interested, but it seems to me this price for a rotating ready copy very cheap: you could be that extent yes they buy and resell the good profit in a decent a la Camera EX3 invest ;-)
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
At your place I would not be the first to buy Dolly, but a good Steadycam rig ... Can you be on empirical values Recommendation pronounce?
PS
Still NEN tip to "cite-function" here: You need not complete NEN prescribing section of a hundred percent record in the quote .... Am I learning or am I to learn * g *
Netter Gruss,
Alex.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
As for a reasonable Steadycam Rig-I myself am a long time to find and still have nothing (affordable for me) found that I could fully convince. All systems that I tried so far have had drawbacks, which consist of a purchase for me then excluded.
I have the Glidecam Smooth Shooter with my people together for a day tested: www.slashcam.de/info/Glidecam-Smooth-Shooter--Steadycam--Ausfuehrl--Testbericht---Anle-205490.html
S.sich is not bad, but then was not really convincing.
Then I made the mistake, a quite favorable and then convincing sounding Steadycam rig from Bollywood to import: http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130277654417
The processing and the price were good, but the whole thing was just not clean enough to adjust and feingängig not enough. I habs then sold next.
For longer missions, where you have to take the camera (eg, marriage) that would possibly synonymous ne Easyrig worth (these things always come on): www.schweizervideo.ch/content/verleih/?ARTNR=901.STA-EASYRIG -2.5 & u2 = 260
So if anyone truly convincing experience with an affordable Steadycam rig for cameras up to about 4 kilos of weight, I'm still more than interested!
Antwort von Pianist:
At the same time I would be such an offer but somehow synonymous aback make: How can a fully functioning, fully-equipped Red ONE "only" 11K-cost Euros? There is something rotten! Why? That just shows just how desperate probably a Red-user if he wants to get rid of absolutely Camera ...
Matthias
Antwort von Pianist:
If you think that I of my existing budget for crane, dolly, light suitcases, camera etc ¬ 40,000 available, then it would be quite unfavorable synonymous now simply because of the price of a Red One can be tempted to leave the Course .... Exactly. The Red One is for you, like the others already wrote an absolutely false Camera. For me, it would also be absolutely wrong. What you need for quick reports. And if you actually 40,000 euros available, then you get to have a pretty good equipment, for your purposes perfectly suited. To do this, I'm going to give you a few tips if you are interested.
Matthias
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Why? That just shows just how desperate probably a Red-user if he wants to get rid of absolutely Camera ... Maybe ... but it is not true that, just because you do not EVEN with its Camera cope, they are "verscherbeln" must be! There are tons of (skilled and ambitious) film people, the Red ONE synonymous with hand closer s.Marktwert would take over. So I would be much more expensive scout if I ne Red ONE reluctance to sell out!
Ergo: The seller is either a fool or what it is with lazy with the equipment! The former would have me as a buyer no preference, the second less!
Antwort von Johannes:
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So if anyone truly convincing experience with an affordable Steadycam rig for cameras up to about 4 kilos of weight, I'm still more than interested! ... I myself got the "Steady Drive Delta bought and am really pleased.
And my DVX100Ae something zuleicht could be, but since I probably synonymous mal ne gy dv5000 raufpacken must I like ne bought something bigger. And I can not complain.
On my search I was given the "Flycam" (Not from Idien) recommended
http://www.flycam.com.ar
it is probably very easy to use and after a few minutes of practice usable pictures. So far I have searched and read. Can you report if you so want to know more.
I commend myself to you first Steadycam not because I like to imagine how it should look like. Because with a Steadycam sheep you all are not very calm oneself to make recordings. Just slow movements can be difficult to translate into action with a Steadycam. Vll could it with a roll stand with large wheels to use. And alone, I would not do something anyway. In the video asset 1 2007, a report on a wedding film. Amongst is synonymous to the technology and its wage
Antwort von B.DeKid:
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So I say buy the un Redone selling me the EX3 for 3K,-P
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Nee times without Scheiss, Like Bernd. said, Redon and test if everything is ok, buy and directly for 20K and start selling next.
Then the second EX3 buy - maybe 1 (2) further shift optics (WW).
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The Delta is of Steadycam Top
Habs since his year here (about 2500 paid - on EBAY Xmas 07 gescored price - the goods have synonymous B)
Use it with its XL1S - adjusts the weight, the Canon should be so in the weight class of the subject EX3.
Sure, the DELTA is not yet perfect but if the cable laying, and the Battery Monitor bracket tuned, then in my eyes, a good system.
But remember as I have previously mentioned ... The thing is HEAVY.
I (184 cm / 76 kilos), spühre in the back after the 10-15 min, good.
In tight situations / locations (eg, hallway or stairway House) I must, after his years admit - I still come garnicht clear, because I wear the Cam s.Henkel quiet through the track.
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@ John
I have a bicycle handle directly under the tripod s.den metal plate, so keep the system quiet and better.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Johannes:
@ John ...
I have a bicycle handle directly under the tripod s.den metal plate, so keep the system quiet and better.
... That's times a tip, you have it for a year? So synonymous bissel experience already? I have mine since nichma two weeks, just before sowas Tips and read, but if they are now in the hands or even to pay you notice the one or the other tip but nothing was.
I still have a few questions just for the few fasteners and General, could you vll. times via e-mail report is in my Profile.
Antwort von meawk:
The question is cute!
He, Du has an EX3, have 40k on the back for free - this is not Championsligue, but at least UEFA Cup and you überlegs or ask the community whether you ne RED ONE with lenses and accessories for about 11k buy sollst ?
Anschauen and if everything is OK to buy - it is clear. What is the question?
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
I would s.deiner neither the agency nor the Red fetch EX3, but the EX1. If I have understood you correctly, your main interest is stored so that you are with two cams simultaneously filming it? The EX1 has, as far as I know, the same chip as the EX3, and has a fixed manual Optics, looks from the picture material, therefore, just like the EX3. The EX3 is just better in the hand and has just touched on a bayonet flange for Wecheloptik, but hardly the need for the second cam.
The RED camera is a staged, no EB Camera. Very, very different site and as far as I can see for yourself anything but suitable. Also the workflow in the post you must first lift, this is not just with each program feasible. We are talking about here is not SD or HD, but over 4k, which is 6x as much pixel data as Full HD.
I would basically interest s.einer Red, but they would never buy one of which is not 100% can handle it, and I can imagine that I'm not the only one to think so. Therefore, hands off. The question is, what optics are involved. On the RED fit Arri Primes, Cooke EUR 10,000 for the piece, but synonymous Mounted Nikon optics for $ 20 from eBay. The new body will cost $ 17,500 (some 12,500 euros), for 14,000 EUR to get them ready NEW halfway with Mt. 11,000 EUR Demach are not automatically a bargain. And you need NEN Focus, a matte, a Rod, and a monitor and Other
MB
Antwort von meawk:
Well - wenns ne mint with good optics and accessories, why not?
Antwort von Debonnaire:
I would s.deiner neither the agency nor the Red fetch EX3, but the EX1. (...) Alright, that we would have exactly the same, what has mehrnals in almost identical words and with analogous arguments of several people here have said has been synonymous of you can read again. Hab Dank!
These are the posts that you really can save, folks! Sorry for my frankness!
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
These are the posts that you really can save, folks! Sorry for my frankness! You mean the "people" in the future, when you make an application before they post or what?
Why do not you write simply what you are "virtually identical analogue" actually mean, then you have nothing to add synonymous. Is it easy;)
MB
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
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Antwort von JMS Productions:
Oh no! * big eyes * mach
I can vividly imagine how the course of further discussion will look like:-D
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Words are like birds: they can be free, they can not recapture ... ... but shoot! ;)
MB
Antwort von JMS Productions:
Words are like birds: they can be free, they can not recapture ...
... but shoot! ;) The birds yes, words do not ;-)
Antwort von wontuwontu:
... a very tempting offer, because he sent me the camera for ¬ 11,000 .. Let me guess, you have someone a cheap Pappkärtchen wedged under the windshield wipers. The business with the car export seems not good to run.
Advantage in the EX3 Cams is also the Genlock - or TC-interface, which should be interesting for you.
Otherwise, please buy the Red, then I have someone in the neighborhood, where I can borrow. And ask the type nor a Wlan cable, has determined synonymous in range.
Antwort von Johannes:
... a very tempting offer, because he sent me the camera for ¬ 11,000 ..
Let me guess, you have someone a cheap Pappkärtchen wedged under the windshield wipers. The business with the car export seems not good to run.
Advantage in the EX3 Cams is also the Genlock - or TC-interface, which should be interesting for you.
Otherwise, please buy the Red, then I have someone in the neighborhood, where I can borrow. And ask the type nor a Wlan cable, has determined synonymous in range. So the Niveu was synonymous ever higher. I admire it again and again as people like you, a thread with a serious theme beginning to the end just ridiculous to even consider. And I think not that you wanted to be funny. No. It is pure jealousy and self-pity, the anstösst you to post something here. Think of times before but after it was postet before. And if you have a thought of course but the total sinnentfreit issue, let him in the head smiles, but not post it!
Antwort von r.p.television:
So if anyone truly convincing experience with an affordable Steadycam rig for cameras up to about 4 kilos of weight, I'm still more than interested! You had the Flycam 6000 with actually a very good tool.
You write it is not precise enough and not easy to set commonplace enough.
I've been half a year synonymous one.
It is synonymous as you said very well processed. They can be very precisely synonymous - but require small factors such as wind and any other cables or batteries each for a reorientation. Therefore, the system can not and the rebalancing is going very fast and intuitive of the hand.
However, the system runs only s.einem camera weight of approximately 6 kg upwards stable (without the step intervals to see).
I put only big cams or complain lighter. But this is basically for professional work no disgrace, because, as all serious Schultercams prove everything by the extra weight stable.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
@ rptelevision:
Do you same Flycam 6000 from India, which I bought via eBay?
Yes, with a heavier camera would perhaps have gone.
With my Panasonic AG-DVX100 (solo, without additional or extra battery monitor on the bottom of the counter-sled)'s just too easy. And tons of extra weights in the plastic containers fiddligen Chen purely pack I did not want to!
What annoyed me s.dem part has been that the built Tarierfedern simply too few were of high quality! This means that they were too stiff and too short spring had. This was obviously saved! Cheap goods!
And the fixing screw of the Federarms s.den body armor in the crossfire of the beam is very difficult even einzufädeln! Because construction would have a little more lard brain Not done!
But what I always when dealing with the Steadycam-Rigs must establish is that I probably just a bad back for work so had! I will, though not really untrained, just incredibly quickly get tired and back pain. I admire professional Steadycam operators, which with a 35mm film camera, plus extra battery and monitor (!) As on stairs and steps whet! Is ne Heide work, especially if you are still präszise Kadri and so must! Hats off!
Antwort von maniero:
Sorry dear thread starter, is not evil intentioned, but to me, are you part of an easily-Esken troll impression ...
Hmmm, what do: From the Red, I would personally advise you (under the above conditions of you and for your area ...) is also dealing with raw data (for all benefits) is not synonymous with no ... see it I have my DVX Andromeda every time I use you, even though the workflow is obviously not comparable.
But, as you embark on a different relationship with money seem to have, as most of you, you can buy them of course, synonymous and try it yourself (and hopefully report back ...).
Hold us up to date.
PS: One more small tip:
Your financial options are enviable ambition and so many filmmakers here could / would give a huge boost to the front get, but it is discouraged them, this fact (even here at Slashcam) as (part of sometimes pretentious acting) to hang out. That's enough to get fast the displeasure of the "working class" to which I must include synonymous :-(, draw ...
Antwort von Debonnaire:
(...) but it is discouraged them, this fact (even here at Slashcam) as (part of sometimes pretentious acting) to hang out. That's enough to get fast the displeasure of the "working class" to which I must include synonymous :-(, draw ... Envy? - But, but ...
Antwort von maniero:
Sure, a little bit. Thou synonymous, right?
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Sure, a little bit. Thou synonymous, right? Yep! ;-)
As I already said: A great part!
But everything Drumrumgemüse plus the complex (re) make the Red workflow for a "life" film only really hard! Unfortunately!
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
Hello,
relating to: "Proll" etc - I'm not such sort and so is mostly in the minds of others and, unfortunately, is nunmal, in part, "envy a German form of recognition" - but I did not truly the wealth owned by hotel and you know it all the saying, "Who has money, who does not speak about it" and since I at least partially talking about, should I be synonymous not much of it, right? ;-)
Seriously, I clear my budget, but it is not reprehensible, but it shows you maybe a little synonymous my ambition, I am willing spend / invest and you can then counted a lot tips about things like "Kamerakran, Dolly , steady etc "type and does not always say" Come out s.was you want to spend "... it is just so ... there are people with unusual hobbies, so collect some stamps and there Vermögnen ensure that the next gathering figures from OB eggs and pays for a character from the series "1900 Nesquick" then just ¬ 800 and has again the next real estate, a fleet s.Fahrzeugen or is capable of 4 times a year on vacation to fly.
I've mentioned the budget, so I want a foothold and build a virtual me my little ego polishing. It is, however, as I will right more difficult to correct someone on the Internet to understand and assess and it would certainly be different from some of my thinking when times together in the bistro around the corner would have sat s.der counter ;-)
Take it to me so please do not sick, I will not be here and wanted to "put on thick" and I am convinced that this is synonymous with the sum garnicht really can.
Netter Gruss,
Alex - I come in peace * g *...
Antwort von domain:
Ultimately it is probably a decision between amateurmäßigem (everything themselves have done) and business management thinking.
In this price category is the lease at the option of each device is likely to recently not too unreasonable.
A friend of me butterte Money synonymous everything in the latest and yet so rapidly aging equipment to build its very existence. But there is no second sector, where the value lost because of the rapid progress so dramatic, as in the electronics sector.
And then came at him the lucrative contracts in the way he had imagined it. Today he is bankrupt.
Investing in the future are good, but only with calculable risk.
Antwort von Pianist:
In this price category is the lease at the option of each device is likely to recently not too unreasonable. I'm really not so sure. That may be true, if someone as a freelance cameraman for specific channels and these channels turns his delivery format and-medium and provide the changes every few years. But if someone (like me) is completely independent and only the final one, then you can, if you long enough it, with his technique more than ten years work. I do not know what it in the next ten years there should be, which is much different or better than what I currently have. Synonymous Previously, I have 13 years working with Beta SP.
You have to just buy technology that is so good that after a few years, not annoyed, what it all again or Newer is better. But this must be just a little deeper into the pocket, where it is for most people fail.
For our Ursprungsfrager I could imagine that the GFCAM of Ikegami would be ideal for him. I am unclear why reports of wedding a rail dolly or a camera stabilization system needs to have on site but have no time. Since it is much more important, best wireless audio technology to have the key to good sentences to be included. And because the lighting conditions in most churches are not optimal, he needs s.sich a pretty good camera and it should be towards the lower segment, professional look.
I can imagine that it is for its EUR 40,000 a Ikegami GFCAM a nice Final Cut Pro editing course, a clever Sachtler Tripods (used Pros Video 18), head light, battery belt, SQN and sound engineering s.drahtloser something gets. Thus he has the best equipped and, above all, a proper camera, with which he quickly and safely to work and a few synonymous orders may acquire, on the wedding movies go. So, at least technically, its content and design skills I do not know.
Matthias
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
I can imagine that it is for its EUR 40,000 a Ikegami GFCAM a nice Final Cut Pro editing course, a clever Sachtler Tripods (used Pros Video 18), head light, battery belt, SQN and sound engineering s.drahtloser gets some ... No question
regarding the sound equipment - that is beyond question, because you should be at a wedding in the most critical moments, for example, synonymous a clear "Yes" (so we all hope) hear ...
But regarding the Camera - I have my product now or not, but I can at best will not imagine why because now my "EX3" not fit for such purposes should be - clear, Exen do not have the best skills Lowlight , but certainly not as serious as I am now again on the pile should throw, I do not really believe you or I've just misunderstood.
¬ 40,000 - as I said - that sounds like a lot, but there is so synonymous "a lot" to. Time of possible things such as crane, dolly (no, not for weddings, but my music clips angedacht, just as the crane), then just light suitcases, matte, sound, light head etc - there is indeed another point in space, much of the money-swallowing if it wants to operate decently, that "advertising" is a very important point, especially initially may not be big on recommendations and word of mouth and I would hope, at least regionally but very much in order to then build awareness .... Advantage, with my car's I have a good advertising space (Folierung) * g * for a Mustang GT with a corresponding sound, because it ever turns around, but synonymous, for example, flyers, what about the newspapers are distributed, perhaps advertising in big gyms , flyers in stores bridal fashion company page (HP) etc .... if you operate it correctly, then synonymous because a good bit of money flutes ...
Long story short .... I want now and will of my EX3 erstmal not refrain from thinking and not on the wrong horse to have.
Netter Gruss,
Alexander.
Antwort von Pianist:
Advantage, with my car's I have a good advertising space (Folierung) * g * for a Mustang GT with a corresponding sound, as one turns ever to Good, I take everything back. You want to muck around us, now, I am sure synonymous. I'm sorry that I seriously have responded.
Matthias
Antwort von wontuwontu:
... a very tempting offer, because he sent me the camera for ¬ 11,000 ..
Let me guess, you have someone a cheap Pappkärtchen wedged under the windshield wipers. The business with the car export seems not good to run.
Advantage in the EX3 Cams is also the Genlock - or TC-interface, which should be interesting for you.
Otherwise, please buy the Red, then I have someone in the neighborhood, where I can borrow. And ask the type nor a Wlan cable, has determined synonymous in range.
So the Niveu was synonymous ever higher. I admire it again and again as people like you, a thread with a serious theme beginning to the end just ridiculous to even consider. And I think not that you wanted to be funny. No. It is pure jealousy and self-pity, the anstösst you to post something here. Think of times before but after it was postet before. And if you have a thought of course but the total sinnentfreit issue, let him in the head smiles, but not post it! Envy? Self-pity? That you need me to explain ...
Otherwise something ironic in this forum can not hurt, otherwise you will see all aggressive. And my response has on the contrary to your still reference relating to. You play only watchdogs.
Antwort von domain:
Grins.
Gepimpten for a Mustang with Prolosound my neck, I would not even turn a millimeter.
Corvette Z06-R GT3 there something else that you still have to predict growth your Royal Highness ......
Antwort von PowerMac:
Who sells these for Red? Which Lens?
Antwort von Jake the rake:
Do you have something synonymous angedacht stuck in training? There's you the best equipment and all of the advertising world is nothing if you lack knowledge and practice!
Antwort von Chezus:
Slowly, I somehow doubt the whole story.
Is all very well and that someone 40000 - 50000 euros to the high edge, but all in a hobby to invest to get a leg up, of which one has absolutely no idea?
Of apart: if someone s.mir passed with aufheulendem engine with videos and promotes impressed me the same NULL.
A VW bus with a placard is there already rather hang.
My tip: learn the material, experiment with good equipment to produce good videos and you buy of the money a decent car.
With weddings and music videos you will get the coal until after laaanger time again. Only then can the whole "leg" call.
At a wedding you deserve relatively few musicians and generally have never Money. And if it by a record contract, they are more likely to their video of a professional can turn, the beginning of what you're not s.eben. Steep learning curve or not ...
Antwort von meawk:
Who sells these for Red? Which Lens? Yep, I know times synonymous - if they do not buy it, maybe I buy it, to finally rest. I commit then double as MB or so and then turn right, we take a film, I always wanted to do ever.
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
Advantage, with my car's I have a good advertising space (Folierung) * g * for a Mustang GT with a corresponding sound, as one turns ever to
Good, I take everything back. You want to muck around us, now, I am sure synonymous. I'm sorry that I seriously have responded.
Matthias Sigh,
how does that happen? ... probably just because I now synonymous position yet to have taken my car - God is surely a joke, after all, has a message stuck? It requires that no one is happy about my car, etc - it was an example, because I experience it everyday in the nunmal this vehicle already out and another eye-catcher and if attention is caught, then that is probably as synonymous Werbefläche not despise , is known as small dung synonymous. Or is it just about me but I actually now again rausgenommen have to say "I drive a Mustang ... sigh, sigh ...
Furthermore you need me the seriousness of my contributions are not disputed, because my posts are synonymous seriously.
Thanks synonymous,
Alex.
Antwort von Pianist:
It requires that no one is happy about my car, etc - it was an example, because I experience it everyday in the nunmal this vehicle already out and another eye-catcher and if attention is caught, then that is probably as synonymous Werbefläche not despise , is known as small dung synonymous. I'm sorry, but if you seriously think with such a car in front of customers to be able to, then you have not yet very much understood. I advise you now really something quite different: first attempts, in a professional film production experience. Presumably you can only sensible reportage wedding shoot, if you take some time for a local newspaper has written, because the only way you learn about the first time to see the stories, which is behind a topic, or stuck behind an event.
I do not know how old you are, and what you previously for a background ausbildungsmäßigen searched, but you should first systematically with its own development begin. These include film technical questions, filmgestalterische issues, substantive issues and of course a whole range of business issues. From the order acquisition through communication with the customer through to accounting and taxes.
Maybe you'll learn synonymous soon as customers "tick" and what they are allergic. And maybe you'll recognize that the most suitable and appropriate vehicle for a Filmrealisator more of a VW Passat, Ford Mondeo, or if it ran well for several years, perhaps synonymous times an Audi A4 or A6 is.
Matthias
Antwort von meawk:
How about with a VW bus?
Antwort von Pianist:
How about with a VW bus? Certainly not purely factual of the hand to show, so I had five years ago, times for half a year, a T4 (Caravelle), had let him develop in accordance with drawers, conference table next and so, so similar like a ELW 1, however, I was after the six months so extreme of the whole Klapper sounds annoyed that I called him on an Audi A4 was traded. You get a minibus just does not work and knarzfrei not take a Multivan, these things are also fairly seitenwindempfindlich and it's not in every garage. Consequently, the issue of minibus done for me.
Matthias
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... VW bus? ... Much more practical for the transport equipment and not equal better, if you will be taken seriously by the client wants. Suitable thanks to the lateral sliding door also for interesting camera angles during the trip.
Antwort von Chezus:
I do not want that issue to the "which car is for my company s.besten" degenerates, but you get into your A4 really s.Equipment everything inside?
I've always felt that in an A4 has just as much space as in a VW Golf ...
Passat is synonymous top or an Opel Astra (new). Still large and the trunk space in the back seat.
VW Bus is not necessary, but my favorite in many ways.
I often refer to events movies that are partly down to the morning hours. Most are only 25km away of home, but often it would be fine even if you are in bed before the bus zurechtlegt, after work on the bus and goes home ausgeschlafen to compete.
Safety First!
Antwort von robbie:
Well, it depends on the clientele in ... I can imagine that with a Mustang certainly better before the "sauna" can turn a drive with a VW bus ... ;)
back to OT;)
That with the clatter of the buses shocked me at the moment just a bit ... Since then I überleg rather again.
Yes, Passat is Top! In the trunk the whole stuff, since fits alongside Camera, Tripod and Tontasche even a super Arri800 - suitcases, all beautifully arranged, and the front is still enough room for a couple of jackets and assistant editor and / in. Even 2-EB teams with equipment and an editor I've already placed inside! Ok, then there's something close;).
Antwort von Pianist:
I've always felt that in an A4 has just as much space as in a VW Golf ... No, that would be the case at A3. At A4, one has a complete square base is available. I have had to build a box into which I place inside the camera. Then I move the box up before s.die rear. Next is the tripod purely transverse, which is never in a BMW, not even at 7. The battery belt is placed over the tripod. Then comes the Tonkoffer inside, next to the backpack where I keep my whole minutiae drinhabe, ie Batteries, Filters, Funzel, then Beta cassette, now Field Packs. And on the Tonkoffer can then if necessary, the travel bag. Trunk lid (the A4 sedan was one) and nobody sees what of the stuff. A light suitcase, I need very rarely, the Jib-arm still rare, but if they do, then I have the rear seat backrest umgeklappt or light suitcase onto the back seat laid.
Now, I have been a short time A6 avant, because I have a little more space and a little more have wanted to ride (air suspension). Since I have the whole rear wheels with a slide and tint the remaining four side windows with a splitter can be protective. Now, (estate), even with the light to the rear trunk, since then the travel bag on it. Molton A black cloth covering everything ensures that even when Hereinleuchten nobody can see, this is for short stays s.Autobahnraststätten pretty good. Otherwise I leave the stuff yes unattended in the car. In principle, makes the SEC so the same people.
The safety shoes, vest and so next stored inside the spare. Only the Bauhelme I demand up somewhere in between. The upgraded separator grids may have nothing to fly to the front when it comes times to Vollbremsung or even an accident.
I think that now for the best and most flexible solution, it could be even more people with more Duffels come.
Matthias
Antwort von Pianist:
That with the clatter of the buses shocked me at the moment just a bit ... Mind you that this is a large empty tube, where loud stuff in it, which wants to move somehow. Acoustically not with a sedan or a wagon comparable. Moreover, these things are very tight suspension, so they do not tip over. And in principle, the many space so distributed that it will continue to film people do not use. Where do you want because that's where the whole technology bring?
Quite backward, it is only high, but not deep. Will the Fußräume of the rear two rows, but since everything slips. And then sit there no longer synonymous. And once you kind of space many individual wants to make better use of fixtures, brings you further into the car Klapper sources. If you like a closed box, so a pure craftsman car, one has only two seats, one partition wall does not look at the optimal position can slide. And you can see the cyclists Rechtsabbiegen no more. And all the rattle and knarzt.
No, I can only film people something like A4, A6, E-Class or 5 Series recommended. Or, for bargain hunters to the Mondeo or Passat.
Matthias
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
Thus,
probably because someone has the sense not understood as such! My Mustang is my mobile fun of me and was as advertised ad space, so when I make trips etc and certainly not intended as a vehicle, as pack mule for my equipment etc but it must have been obvious, because Mustang + equipment and luggage is a contradiction in terms ...
Until recently, I am an Audi S6 Avant driven (do not worry, built in 2004, thus no new ... not that we are back with envy to get to do) then I have a Chrysler 300C umgesattelt how so synonymous in my Video on Vimeo can see:
The video is without any of Claims and was rotated my little brother, because I had to go, because the brother has not yet driving:
http://www.vimeo.com/1918597
And so again - I would be a fool if I prolligen in Mustang, in the thick S-Class or the sleek, red Italian ancestors would Pferdchen. It was just the Mustang called for me as their own advertising space, no more, no less and the rest was reininterpretiert ..
Bzgl. Vehicle for my equipment etc, I just play with the idea of "A6 3.0 diesel or petrol and gas, or perhaps a" Viano "of MB or or or ... therefore I simply s.schauen ...
S6 was very spacious, a great car, but fuel consumption was the other side of good and evil ... * gg * because gas would have been paid off!
Gruss
Alex.
PS: But here we wander from the very topic.
Antwort von Pianist:
But here we wander from the very topic. No, why should not production vehicles relating to belong? The LPG solution, I would not be pursued next. You have to yes to at least spare the sacrifice, and that takes you exactly where it has none.
Matthias
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
But here we wander from the very topic.
No, why should not production vehicles relating to belong? The LPG solution, I would not be pursued next. You have to yes to at least spare the sacrifice, and that takes you exactly where it has none.
Matthias Well,
regarding Autogas LPG or just - so some of my friends have already converted and never regretted this step and regarding spare, but there is this "quick repair" kits, because actually the spare anyway tend to be the way to the next workshop suit and therefor these kits are sufficient in most cases .... nunmal it is not different, the lowest number of vehicles (Hummer), the opportunities Underfloor tank construction ...
Gruss,
Alex
Bzgl. my age, I know not how this plays a role, but I'm fine "30" years young ...
Antwort von Jake the rake:
Man says he finally will if he or she is now Red buy or not!
Antwort von Pianist:
Man says he finally will if he or she is now Red buy or not! Why? The theme we have going s.Anfang durchgenommen. He should not. And now we are talking to him, nor the conversion of LPG and then we put him just two errors. For the first January but is already a good cut, right?
Matthias
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
Man says he finally will if he or she is now Red buy or not! Legal sense the statement, right?
Because ultimately the decision is against the "Red One" since my second posting, so it is probably more of you as the business "well roared lion" or s.ins fairway, or "only my 2 cents ... right?
Gruss
Alex
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
Man says he finally will if he or she is now Red buy or not!
Why? The theme we have going s.Anfang durchgenommen. He should not. And now we are talking to him, nor the conversion of LPG and then we put him just two errors. For the first January but is already a good cut, right?
Matthias Sorry,
LPG has never been and never a mistake - which you can not hold me ;-) Because of the conversion of my Mustang in February on Gas is already under roof and tray :-) ... thus we leave it at "Keep A prior error" ;-)
Gruss
Alex.
Antwort von Jake the rake:
Legal sense the statement, right? Meaningful right of free thread in my opinion ... It is my sausage ...
Antwort von Pianist:
Meaningful right of free thread in my opinion ... It is my sausage ... Everything has its meaning. Such discussions train immensely.
Matthias
Antwort von r.p.television:
From an LPG conversion, I would not generally advise against. On my production vehicle - a Chevy Van G20 (the A-team coach) already has more than once profitable. Fuel costs last year over a long period more than halved. The investment in upgrading, I have long been through the savings generated s.der pump.
Despite its inefficient V8s the vehicle, I would not miss anymore. Wonderful seats, nice sound (not a rattle - all well insulated), stress-free cruising, almost 5.70 Length, Width 165 cm over the entire interior length of a real bed and the river area aside, also 240 volts Connections samtlichen accessories for loading and operation of SCREEN Notebook to the material. On the roof a wrapped platform for my Kamerarkan. I can thus contribute to Lokationswechsel synonymous for a few miles on the roof let (Camera and weights should be removed of course).
Then drop-in compartments in which the rotating cameras ready (with head light) can be sunk. And no stress because of scratches. The vehicle is tarngrau and matt gerollert. Looks great and can be quickly repaired.
The front seats can get to old American fashion in the rotating interior. Therefore suitable for funny synonymous with booze on their colleagues after work, because often there is no longer on Hübsch buck and to make the train go.
An A4 for my purposes would be too small. As a replacement for the vehicle's parking and car-free anti-Munich, I have a Fiat Scudo van with turbo diesel. As I bring the most synonymous with. Only you can not sleep in it and the driver stands with the knees at s.Amaturenbrett.
Sorry. Actually everything OT but this topic was not already at least a thousand durchgekaut.
PS. Synonymous, I would strongly advise against a sheet penis as a newer Mustang or the like with my address vollzukleistern industry. Something like suggesting "I need your charcoal did not ...."
Nothing against those cars, but as an advertising space only for unkoschere suitable business consultant whose clients respond to such behavior.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Cars only need to transport and move (eg, trailers or just for dogs Mopped / MTBs ;-)) you can. If change is gas - make. But on the usage behavior.
ToP models are amongst ......
Land Rover Defender 110
Lada Niva
Toyota Land Cruiser
Nissan Navara
VW Bus Syncro
Audi A4 Avant Quadro
Unimog
................................................
@ John
Yes I schick Dir mal ne mail regarding Delta
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von r.p.television:
Cars only need to transport and move .... can. .....
MfG
B. DeKid Basically it is. But in today's cost should be the synonymous use a little joy.
Antwort von vaio:
Hello!
"... because a Mustang GT with a corresponding sound, as one turns to ever ..." Yes, most certainly ... to laugh. Honestly - that was my first Lacher 2009!
"... because my posts are synonymous seriously ..." My synonymous. I myself still do not. Alex, may I call you so please do next! I'm just your client was. The wait very excited in front of the church, of course, with all guests, on your wedding film. " Since calling the father of the bride: "Listen to it - it comes." All hear the loud ensemble Ted Herold Music, Other squeaking tires .. na clear, the dull rumble of the V8. You park your Mustang course directly into the "pole position" in front of the church. It increases a young man with great hair and his dolly out. Yes exactly, Dolly Buster, the EX3 ...
For all others:
"... No, I can only film people something like A4, A6, E-Class or 5 Series recommended. Or for bargain hunters to the Mondeo or Passat ..." You know the lease rates are not a BMW 5 Series. They are due to residual utopian cheaper than that of a Passat, etc. Is appropriate since few years, "the representative of the car" par excellence. Almost as a successor to the Opel Omega ...
Greeting
Michael
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
Hello!
"... because a Mustang GT with a corresponding sound, as one turns to ever ..."
Yes, most certainly ... to laugh. Honestly - that was my first Lacher 2009!
"... because my posts are synonymous seriously ..."
My synonymous. I myself still do not. Alex, may I call you so please do next! I'm just your client was. The wait very excited in front of the church, of course, with all guests, on your wedding film. " Since calling the father of the bride: "Listen to it - it comes." All hear the loud ensemble Ted Herold Music, Other squeaking tires .. na clear, the dull rumble of the V8. You park your Mustang course directly into the "pole position" in front of the church. It increases a young man with great hair and his dolly out. Yes exactly, Dolly Buster, the EX3 ...
For all others:
"... No, I can only film people something like A4, A6, E-Class or 5 Series recommended. Or for bargain hunters to the Mondeo or Passat ..."
You know the lease rates are not a BMW 5 Series. They are due to residual utopian cheaper than that of a Passat, etc. Is appropriate since few years, "the representative of the car" par excellence. Almost as a successor to the Opel Omega ...
Greeting
Michael Well,
of teachers in the school would have probably said "Michael - set, six! armseelig That is, if you do not make the effort and read my articles and then says such a mortise garbage here, just because you once again s.der home Park windowsill no sinner can chalk up, then you should to compensate for perhaps go into the cellar and plasticine s.die wall.
I have clearly defined what my Mustang is a fun Mobil, which certainly is not my truck and not in connection with my work, but additionally serve as advertising space, without any prior order vorzufahren churches. So, learn to interpret Articles to understand the essential rauszufiltern and then you can be happy again to say - as I hate such Würmchen, just waiting to announce ....
Setting, six!
Alex.
Antwort von domain:
The plasticine s.die with the wall is a good idea. So one can at least work off, but the coal remains in the house and will not be thrown out the window. In this exercise are pounds of coins to be recommended, so it's nice scheppert ;-))
Antwort von vaio:
Hi Alex,
I have every word you read of me and have fun now. Sorry!
As for your "marketing" our opinions are probably very far apart.
Do you have something of Target or the like heard? I think before you deal with any advertising continues, you should first think about WEM with WHAT you want to attract. If only one tip. Really not bad intentioned. The people turn around, that is not enough. As you can equally synonymous naked rumlaufen. But this is only my opinion.
I wish you much success!
Greeting
Michael
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Is this really not the moderators thread sometime densely futility because it?
Antwort von Pianist:
Is this really not the moderators thread sometime densely futility because it? No, the only moderator s.sich known for his patience, a few months ago the white flag and pulled up at the Federal asked for his dismissal. His request was met.
Matthias
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
That sounds like democracy! Whereby the Anarachie there is not much ....
Antwort von Johannes:
Is this really not the moderators thread sometime densely futility because it?
No, the only moderator s.sich known for his patience, a few months ago the white flag and pulled up at the Federal asked for his dismissal. His request was met.
Matthias Now look like a forum full professionals, but without Modertor looks ;-)
Should a new type.
Antwort von robbie:
Now look like a forum full professionals, but without Modertor looks ;-)
Should a new type. Honestly? So bad I do not find here. PM is like a gentle lamb, although I am very down some comments, but since he has already found a successor, as seeming to me;)
And the issue with the Gasumbau I found quite interesting! If I had even some questions about. But I want the "we can only talk on the red" poster not unnecessarily aufstacheln ...
Antwort von Pianist:
And the issue with the Gasumbau I found quite interesting! If I had even some questions about. But I want the "we can only talk on the red" poster not unnecessarily aufstacheln ... I have allowed me to
Antwort von Tylermo:
Do you have the Red because now bought? If not could you maybe tell me who the offer and contact me irgenteine or similar type because I have great interest nähmlich Make Red s.einer rotation for 11000 euros.
LG
Antwort von handiro:
no idea how many pounds of flour as you need ...
http://forum.slashcam.de/v-sony-pmw-ex1-vt69543.html
and now seriously: The complete RED's not for the price, the waiting lists, a message on reduser dot com and schwupp isse weg!
Antwort von Tylermo:
So one thing is certain: 11000 wär course a mega bargain. I'm clean and have become even exist when I would be really happy:) And do not worry I already würd not buy a pig in a poke;)
Incidentally, the red is no longer in back order they can do right now to order. So if you have the money you could have it in 14 days of getting RED: D
naja würd but I still like to know whether this is still
lg
