Frage von Gast (Michi):
Hello.
her camcorder professionals.
I am 20 years and currently planning my Australia-backpacker stay. Of course, the camcorder is not luggage missing.
Important criteria in the purchase for me are:
-cheap ( ¬ ca200) (dangerous because of loss / break)
-robust (splash / grains of sand)
-compact
-despite cheap, acceptable quality (Picture / Sound)
-camcorder noise should (if possible) will not be heard
I know that I voted for 200 ¬ is not much demand,
But just because I would be much out there, it should not be hurt if the thing breaks.
After hours of google and inform camcorder there are 2 in the Choice came closer.
1. DCR-TRV14E
I think that with Sony still buys a quality product and have heard. that even though the camcorder is older, he should be really good. Especially good is that for these kfz camcorder battery charger, since I use the battery while recharge should frequently.
This camcorder, I could use (2Jahre ago) for 200 ¬ of purchase to a friend.
2. JVC GR-D725
Just a year old, only 200 ¬ on ebay (new with warranty) and Kauftipp in active video, I do not think that one big error in buying this camcorder macht.oder yet? have now been many bad things about jvc gehört.Es bother me that for the data of this series batterys no kfz Ladekabel there. or someone knows more accurate?
Now I have 2 General questions:
1: If I have a fully charged camcorder battery (standard accessories models) without using the camcorder is left, how long it takes until he is discharged of all?
2: I think, a camcorder, like any other electrical device after a few years any of the defects come alone.
Should I therefore prefer the same of the 2-year-old used-sony camcorder let my finger? How long does it usually until the first defects occur?
Thus, the wärs times.
Enough s.Fragen and Gerda stupid :-)
Can anyone now in my difficult decision to help me and tips or experiences with these camcorders
(Picture / Sound / handling / processing, etc. .....) give.
For me, that would really help and I would be glad to every comment.
Many Thanks in advance.
Regards
Michi
Antwort von Markus:
-robust (splash / grains of sand) Hi Michi,
electronic devices such as usCamcorders have never been so robust that it is sand and water could resist. A droplet s.falschen spot and it's already happened! - But you need not be synonymous to unnecessarily crazy. If you go a bit careful and not all the camcorder zumutet fully, then you should already hold the device.
-camcorder noise should (if possible) will not be heard That there is in the compact class is not. Once the environment is quiet and the Aussteuerungsautomatik the level increased, always listen to your camcorder itself - and its operator.
Cross-reference:
I do not think that much has changed ... [dcr-trv14e] Rate this camcorder, I could use (2Jahre ago) for 200 ¬ of purchase to a friend. Advantage of this option: You know (hopefully), as the camcorder has been treated. In any case, would be due a replacement battery (ie, for a voyage rather two or three).
[jvc gr-d725] Just a year old, only 200 ¬ on ebay (new with warranty) ... From a dealer? Then I would have no major abdominal pain. From home, I advise meanwhile somewhat. On eBay, there are now too much scrap as a fully functional sold. And you can still so much in law: the stress, you first.
Cross-reference:
What I strongly advise against all but want to ... 1: If I have a fully charged battery camcorder [...] let lie, how long it takes until he is discharged of all? Modern Batteries unloaded are no longer as fast as the old parts of NC. But quite honestly: I have no idea. A Battery is for me not yet succeeded in a time of significant non-use to unload ... since Li-Ion Batteries stored unloaded anyway.
[2 years old trv14] How long does it usually until the first defects occur? The mention of a precise life bordered s.Wahrsagerei. Depending on how well or poorly the user with the device is handled, how regularly it was in operation and whether its components rather good or rather bad batches are taken, can you have a camcorder synonymous after 15 years, yet easy to use, or it already after a week away. Somewhere in between is the real life subject.
Antwort von Gast (Michi):
Hello
Thanks for the quick reply.
I think I have expressed myself wrong.
I thought that the camcorder a year ago and I appeared with him new guarantee of a dealer can buy on ebay.
What would you recommend me?
The old Sony model or the (relatively) new JVC camcorder?
Thank you very much
Grüße Michi
Antwort von Markus:
I do not know any of the two camcorder from my own experience and you could not synonymous (for ¬ 200) recommended. That is not my target.
Antwort von Jan:
Well much better is the TRV 14 not synonymous, she has already been a few years old, the TRV series there a few years more.
The Sony in the consumer sector Stable Sator, AF and night program with good movement representation (NightShot) JVC vorraus is - you can designate as truth.
When 16 / 9 mode beats the JVC GR D 725, the old 14er easily made, TRV 14, just so cheap letterbox resolution wastage, the 725 even has a 16:9 anamorphic mode. So the 725 is synonymous is not entirely free.
In the test of Video Active is synonymous clear - in the picture Sonyist test now equivalent to a maximum in the initial class - Hilt as synonymous of "commercial gimmick" of the Carl Zeiss 40 ¬ (HC 27 & 37) nothing more, JVC has 725 in all relevant image assessment tests (sharpness, color ) the nose before SonyHC 27 & 37 (the current TRV 14ens).
Yes, the new Battery BN VF 8xx series can be annoying, na mal schauen JVC whether a car charger sometime offers. In some time, there are certainly a foreign 9 V adapter - because you can be sure if synonymous JVC may not have your own builds. At the moment there are only Charger AA VF 8 - maybe you can s.ihm was "tinkering" with a 9 V times.
A battery should be within a couple of months (max 5) self-discharged have - I've never exactly tested on a daily.
Now I can but my time with chain, Saturn, the D 725 for 199 ¬ and in Germany with 100% product guarantee.
PS: The video asset distribution points but do not compare, because their requirement s.die VAD devices in the last year has increased (the new and old test) is not 51 points to 62, more 51 points to 53-55 points.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan:
I wanted again to the car charger to come back.
The technique fox among you will say - well that is not so 100% the best, but maybe.
Some companies distribute 12 V car adapter of 220 V - the so-zb synonymous Ansmann Power 2 Go 100 (100 watts maximum).
Consumervideocams have no more than 10 W power consumption, even FX 7 brauch ca 6 watts.
In principle, usable with any camera, but from a purely physical perspective astrein not quite, because on several occasions in the converter is changed (Camera 6-9 volts to 220 V (AC) then back to 12 V car charger - sinusoid, so it is expected that Converter of the strain might not survive too long. With the camera but no damage to be expected.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Well much better is the TRV 14 not synonymous, she has already been a few years old, the TRV series there a few years more. Hi,
my TRV14
0 E (Digital 8) I have purchased in the autumn of 2002 (there was already discontinued model, 450 instead of 650 euros). It has until now not had a single defect, even the standard battery still holds bravely through. And was not spared, was on many cruises and this has not synonymous occasionally splashing resented (well, that was lucky but then synonymous).
In a few weeks, she accompanies someone for a year after China.
So the reliability of her, the old Sony safely okay.
BG
Andreas
